-Search through the possibilities of freedom.
At other times in my life I have wanted music to:
-Scare my parents.-Create rich new worlds in my imagination.-Demonstrate to me the cutting edge of technology.-Incarnate the new sensibility.-Give me a sense of community with people I probably won't meet.-Expose me to brutality.-Make me feel more refined, intelligent.-Serve as a template for a learnable craft skill.-Cover the noise coming from the next apartment.-Isolate me from other riders of a public transport system.-Cover embarrassing sounds made in the bathroom.-Teach me how to feel about 'the revolution'.-Structure my unconscious emotional life with couplets and refrains about love.
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 May 2003 07:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 May 2003 07:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― phil turnbull (philT), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave q, Friday, 2 May 2003 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)
or what dave q said.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)
I don't care what the revolution's about in particular, just as long as it has just a little bit more significance than just the record / cd / tape spolls going round and round and round.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:54 (twenty-two years ago)
- sometimes to empathise with the artist is a good thing. it's frequently heartening to hear the artist express exactly what is on my mind. often this would be just one line or couplet, so it can be interesting to twist the meaning of the rest of the lyric to see if it can fit in with my circumstances also.
-i travel quite a distance from home to college, so yes, i need something to pass time on the long journeys.
- often, i like the music to be an emotion-free zone. rather than be bombarded by more "emotion", sometimes i would like to hear something "cold". it's strangely soothing.
- often i like music to go to sleep to. this means inevitably i don't hear the end of these albums too often, but i have a real fondness for lullaby-ish stuff.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 2 May 2003 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)
from Q magazine :'oskar tennis champion'*** (3 stars)
now in 'folktronic' mode, nick currie is still the masterof weird, literary flights of fancy-optimistic communistsand sexual sewing machines both feature here. this timethough, there's more music hall pastiche, a nod to japan'scornelius-associated shibuya-kei pop and a laptop overhaulfrom michigan's emerging john talaga. as unique as ever.(martin aston)
i remember the days when every momus album got 4 stars in mark ellen's era.
― piscesboy, Friday, 2 May 2003 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― irate momus (moomus), Friday, 2 May 2003 10:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 2 May 2003 10:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 2 May 2003 10:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 2 May 2003 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 2 May 2003 10:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 2 May 2003 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― pauls00, Friday, 2 May 2003 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Friday, 2 May 2003 11:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― rexJr., Friday, 2 May 2003 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 May 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 May 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 May 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 May 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Friday, 2 May 2003 15:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 May 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 2 May 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)
- Transport me to alternate dimensions where emotions bloom in bright, narcotic colors and there are no clocks.
- Magikally re-conjure favorable events in my mind.
- Drown out the vaccuous bleating of whisteheaded cheesemonkeys.
- Make my wife happy.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 2 May 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)
Barring that, I want it to always be close at hand.
― JesseFox (JesseFox), Saturday, 3 May 2003 05:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Mirov (nick), Saturday, 3 May 2003 05:38 (twenty-two years ago)
"I demand that a film express either the joy of making cinema or the agony of making cinema. I am not at all interested in anything in between."
--Francois Truffaut
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 3 May 2003 05:42 (twenty-two years ago)
(There's an assumption in some replies that the qn is "What do you want music you've never heard to do?". I'm also interested in "What do you want a record you've heard 1000 times to do the 1001st time?")
I also want it to entertain and delight me. Experience has shown that funny noises, catchy hooks and good jokes help here.
I was going to say something glib about ass-shaking but I don't dance all that much. I also love rhythmic records, though. Maybe I like how rhythm is time's pitiless dominatrix, and without it my life would become more of a flabby drift. I'm probably only thinking like that because "Dr Mabuse" is on the stereo.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Saturday, 3 May 2003 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)
...the immedia community exhibits the best of such art,eschewing reckless application of powerful technology in favor ofelectronic art which seeks deeper understandings of technology'srelationship with art and life in contemporary society.
I thought to myself that it would make a great 12" etching if you were to change the statement to: I demand the reckless application of powerful technology.
I went to this conference and sat by myself to hear a lecture by Kit Clayton and to see an audiovisual installation with his girlfriend Sue Constabile. While I was there I was literally appalled by the installation itself and the attitude of the audience in their personal conversations. The vibe was smug and pretentious without the content or spark to back it up. It was a celebration of white midwestern bourgeois electro-mediocrity.
It was a gathering of people who had refused to admit that the 90's had ended and that the promise of digital media was not going to be fulfilled. It was like these people refused to take into account that the evil old white men were winning and that things are not getting better. You can gaze endlessly into your .gif files about nothing and listen intently to the random noise of your elegantly crafted MAX/MSP control structures, but how does that connect into the larger picture of American life in the beginning of the 21st century?
I want to hear records that smash apart the smary self-assured provincial boredom of upper-middle class IT professionals who are "slumming it" the greater world of popular culture. I demand technology be used ruthlessly to destroy all notions of geography, class, race, and gender. I do not want warm, kind, elegant music; I want a soundtrack to the promise of a new century being ripped apart before our eyes. I want a music about poverty, dirty air, isolation, escapism, constriction, dislocation and despair.
I want the 20th century ripped apart and pillaged without regard to classification or hierarchy. I want a record that contains homo-disco, 60's jazz, amphetamine-fueled backwoods rockabilly, academic electronic music, acid house, hillbilly blues, bedroom synth noir, 70's commercial pop, dream pop, post-punk, and soul. I want all those elements jammed into a ford fiesta with a full gas tank that has been steam-catapulted off the deck of an aircraft carrier into a brick wall at 600mph. I want that wreckage to form the crucible of a new music that will be the blueprint for 2026 and not an updated variation of 19fucking83.
I demand that all of this be accomplished on the most shitty-consumer grade audio equipment available in the bedroom of a teenager. I want it fast, dynamic, tasteless, offensive, cheap, nasty, and most importantly, it not sound anything like fucking gutter garridge. I want uplifting horror on a record that will grab you in the hips, shake you, and throw you into a wall. Any notions of taste, art, beauty, and humanity must be stripped out in difference to an all out dash towards visceral raw velocity.
I want 2026 handed to me on a plate in 2003, and I want it yesterday.
― Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 4 May 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)
Yeah, but the problem is you mention that to people and you're bound to get somebody saying, "But Beck already did that!" And then you have to hate.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 May 2003 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 4 May 2003 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 May 2003 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 4 May 2003 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 4 May 2003 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 4 May 2003 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 4 May 2003 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)
I am not really into the splatter breaks sample aethetic; I am looking for something more rooted in the contrast between sequenced electronics and physical interaction. Heavily treated traditional instruments, plus found/improvised instruments plus electronics. Instead of just sampling a record, I would rather get the musical and productions idioms behind that record, and smash those ideas into other records in a trashy art-punk sort of way.
― Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 4 May 2003 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)
mike - were you around & listening in the late 70's?
from '77 to about mid '81 that's pretty much what i wanted, and the promise of something like that was floating about - work of that period you might like: some TG, some CV, Ubu's 1st 2 albums & datapanik ep, Chrome's 2nd & 3rd albums & ROM epon the more conventional side -> low, the idiot, heroes
(much of the CV stuff, of course, has been prey to ham-fisted thud-mongers and skitter-merchantsbut they helped bring that about themselves)
― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Sunday, 4 May 2003 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)
to save me from the fearful silence
― luna (luna.c), Sunday, 4 May 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 4 May 2003 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)
that sounds good. in addition:
-to tell stories about death and pain and agony that i can pick out on my guitar (alas, i cannot find the folk ballads i want). -to be so unique and different that i can listen to it over and over for a month straight
― Maria (Maria), Sunday, 4 May 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)
and repeat
― Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Sunday, 4 May 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)
and i third the "create new worlds in my imagination" thing.
― Lid, Sunday, 4 May 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 4 May 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 4 May 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)
I want cool sounds that make me feel something new. If everyone's going to hear it, it'd better make them hold hands and sing along and be happy and shit.
― Adam A. (Keiko), Sunday, 4 May 2003 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 May 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)
Anyway, I want music to excite me in places I didn't know existed.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 5 May 2003 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 May 2003 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 May 2003 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 5 May 2003 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 5 May 2003 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)
"To travel hopefully is better than to arrive." Robert Louis Stevenson, as I remember.
Is that the kind of thing, Neddy?
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 5 May 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 May 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)
With that established -- that could apply, yes, but the hope can also be where you find it, and can often come by surprise (though the surprise itself can be hoped for in turn).
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 May 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 5 May 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 May 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)
Has anyone heard the Flock of Seagulls: "this bud's for you" song. New wave never sold beer better. (this is a co-post with the What song is most synonymous with "the eighties?" thread)
― A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 5 May 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)
yes
― A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 5 May 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― Roman (Roman), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 05:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― Adam A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)