Why is it that every time I read any response to any thread in this blog themy mind assumes a voice with an obnxious cockney accent?

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Bizzare, ain't it?

― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 3 May 2003 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Saturday, 3 May 2003 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)

That's weird. I get the voice of a cultured, rather edgy, well mannered but essentially conservative-minded U.S. academic.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Saturday, 3 May 2003 05:11 (twenty-two years ago)

An I get the voice of a cultured, not well formally educated but far above his station midwestern intellectual.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 3 May 2003 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahaha!

That wouldn't be Calum's voice however. He would be the cockney, for sure.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Saturday, 3 May 2003 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)

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― Adam A. (Keiko), Saturday, 3 May 2003 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Well I imagine, that if you're an American, you're incapable of telling the difference between a Cockney accent and any other of the hundreds of other British accents. Apologies if you're not an American or if you're an American who can tell one British accent from another.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Saturday, 3 May 2003 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Funny, my mind has always assumed an Elizabeth Fraser-style singing voice.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 3 May 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

(it works especially well with HUNTA-D's posts)

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 3 May 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Dadaismus OTM. I mean, as far as I'm concerned you can talk American or you're talkin' moonspeak. Also, all British people look the same.

― Adam A. (Keiko), Saturday, 3 May 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Wotcher, mate. Stahp eatin' animals, y'CAAAAAAAHNT.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 May 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

There's only one thing worse than an American trying to do an English accent and that's an Englishmen trying to do an American accent.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Saturday, 3 May 2003 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, Ned, sort it aaaht.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 3 May 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

*bows*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 May 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Er, Americans doing Australian accents is the worst. Poms can do Australian accents but Americans are hopeless. I think I can count on some support here. Jim, Gaz?

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Saturday, 3 May 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Neird yore corkney ahksent rawks maan, hi-five dhuuud! :)

― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 3 May 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

What's that supposed to be? Canadian?

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Sunday, 4 May 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

americans can't even pick aussie accents colin, let alone do them. they assume your german or something...ned, prove me wrong.

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 4 May 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"far above his station"
The fact that someone used this phrase is proof that this board
is FAR too fucking british.

― skwurrel puhlise (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 4 May 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I can tell the difference between a Cockney accent and the other British accents.

I've broken down the British Accent into ten categories -- "northern cultured", "northern uncultured", "way far northern", "middle of the country", "West End [London]", "Cockney", "London suburban", "southern cultured", "southern uncultured", and "British generica" (a sort of companion to American generica). Then again, I watch lots of British TV and have British friends.

It will take me a longer period of time to break those categories down into subcategories, obv.

― Dee the Semi-Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 4 May 2003 06:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I have two categories of British accents:

1. Talks like one of those people in a Guy Ritchie movie

2. Talks like one of those people in a Monty Python movie

― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 4 May 2003 06:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Tubular!

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Sunday, 4 May 2003 08:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I have two categories of British accents:
1) Colonel Peacock
2) Eliza Doolittle

I've heard that the smuggest accent is nicknamed Froffleey (from how someone with said accent would pronounce "Frightfully.")

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 4 May 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

NUFF FORUM FASSY GWAN GET DICE UP GET ME. DEM YANK BWOY CYBER GEEK THINKING DEM KRIS DEM AINT KRIS COME DOWN STRATFORD REX GET RUSHED UP GET ME.

― PACKA-9-MILLI, Sunday, 4 May 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that EM@IL/PACKA-9-MILLA's psuedo-hip-hop patois is an even more irritating accent than cockney. Who'se with me on this one?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 4 May 2003 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

ned, prove me wrong

Oh heavens, if I even tried I would be killed, I'm sure. When I was in Melbourne I was mostly struck by how different everyone's voices sounded as distinct from a stereotypical Aussie accent -- you could certainly hear commonalities but I couldn't narrow it down to apply to all. Hearing the guys in the Lovetones last week reminded me of that again.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 May 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I was recently taught by an Australian on how to spot a New Zealand accent from an Aussie accent and since then I've been amazed that I ever got them mixed up in the first place - it's all in the vowels (it usually is), apparently in NZ they are fond of fush and chups.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 4 May 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, Dadaismus, that's the right way to pick them. It's called the fush and chups test. I've also heard it called the "Sex sex sex - the number of the beast wuth two becks" test. This is obviously less punchy, so let's just call it the fush and chups test.

Curiously, I recently heard of a reverse test whereby New Zealanders can tell if you're Australian. You get us to say "This beer tastes like piss". Apparently it comes out as "Theece beer tiystes liyke peece". There's a word for tests like this. They're called shibboleths, you know. Ahem.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 5 May 2003 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)

peece = piss? in an Australian accent? surely shome mistake?

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 5 May 2003 01:22 (twenty-two years ago)

The New Zealanders would say, 'This beer tastes like pus!', which is another bodily fluid altogether.

― Amarga (Amarga), Monday, 5 May 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

some beers do indeed taste like pus.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 5 May 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

if only they had the consistency too...

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 5 May 2003 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread now disgusts me.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 May 2003 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

it is interesting that americans seem not to be so good at distinguishing the different british accents, but australians seem to pick them up straightaway

― gareth (gareth), Monday, 5 May 2003 07:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, Gareth, and we can pick up Welsh accents too. Now Jim, I agree with you, I don't think Australians say peace instead of piss. But, just remember, you have to think yourself into an New Zealand habitat, where piss is puss.

Now, if THAT's your reality, then, in comparison, piss, pronounced by an Australian, really is peace. It's all relative, as a first year philosophy student might say at a student party to impress a couple of girls.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 5 May 2003 07:48 (twenty-two years ago)

but on that logic, surely americans and the british would sound like they are saying "peace" instead of "piss" to us. which they don't. and i think it depends what part of australia you're from/living in. my sister's accent is really strong, and she's in wodonga.

― di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 5 May 2003 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Fair comment Di. However, I think you'll find that the British never say 'piss'. They say 'wee' or 'pee' or 'piddle' if they're from the south and 'slash' if they're from the north.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 5 May 2003 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)

wrong colin, we all say piss down here

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 5 May 2003 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

and i'm not sure Daphne from Frasier has ever said 'slash' - where ARE you getting your information from good Sir??

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 5 May 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

From the little people under my refrigerator, Steve, from the cute little people under my refrigerator. Why?

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 5 May 2003 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I can only find one genuine British accent among the ten listed here - "Cockney", none of the others make any sense. "Middle of the country" could refer to a generic Midlands accent, if such a thing existed, which it doesn't.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 5 May 2003 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

the most famous British accents:

Cockney (and variants e.g. Michael Caine, Alan Ford, Eastenders, also spawning 'mockney' which is a bastardised adaptation favoured by many from North, South and West London and the surrounding area, as far as Brighton or Northampton in fact)

Essex (similar to Cockney but often milder in the men and lighter in the women)

Scouse (Liverpudlian e.g. The Beatles, Cilla Black, Heidi from Atomic Kitten)

Manc/Lancs (e.g. Daphne from Frasier, the Gallaghers - tho obviously there's a huge difference between those)

Yorkshire - North (York, Leeds, Bradford etc.) and South (Sheffield etc.) variants (those of you who have met Gareth will love his fairly thick Bradford accent...Yorkshire accents tend to be the easiest to adapt to and the hardest to shake off I've noticed)

Geordie (Tynesiders e.g. Jimmy Nail, Sting, Chris Rea - tho you can't tell it in the latter two's voices half as much of course)

Brummie (and general Midlanders - most famous example probably Noddy Holder and Slade)

South-West (think The Wurzels and comedian Jethro for the extremity of this)

Welsh (obviously)
Scottish (obviously)

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 5 May 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

A problem is that UK regional accents are now pretty much discouraged in pop music - listen to the Beatles and Paul especially has an accent which is surprisingly broad compared to current singers (Atomic Kitten, say).

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 09:34 (twenty-two years ago)

true, what always makes me laugh is hearing Heidi Sugababe talk and sing - so different, not much of a hint of Scouse in her singing voice at all, but this is not uncommon.

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Australian accent = Farscape

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Historian getting decapitated in Monty Python's Holy Grail to thread!!!!!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

of all the "british" accents that have been listed, i can't see the "non-race-specific london yout' back-seat-of-the-bus-after-school patois" anywhere... "london" accents have changed massively over the past few years and you barely hear kids talking "cockney" any more, even in the east end... they all sound like pirate radio mcs... needless to say, i like this but it makes me feel a bit old with my own semi-cultured london-scouse hybrid accent...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Well I imagine, that if you're an American, you're incapable of telling the difference between a Cockney accent and any other of the hundreds of other British accents.

Well, I am not from an English speaking country at all, and I can clearly hear the difference.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Macintosh computer voices to thread.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Stephen Hawking to thread (oh, i'm probably going to get banned from ILM now)

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread is why <EMBED> should NEVER have been banned.

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― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.mchawking.com/images/pics/chuck_2.jpg

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Know that shit.

BTW, Isn't it about time we had a sequel to 'A Brief History Of Rhyme'?

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"of all the "british" accents that have been listed, i can't see the "non-race-specific london yout' back-seat-of-the-bus-after-school patois" anywhere... "london" accents have changed massively over the past few years and you barely hear kids talking "cockney" any more, even in the east end... they all sound like pirate radio mcs... needless to say, i like this but it makes me feel a bit old with my own semi-cultured london-scouse hybrid accent... "

this is so true (not sure how to italicize). among the younger generation I'd say cockney/mockney lives on in the outer parts of London (Barnet and places like that) and in the suburbs (or among the children of London's middle-class), but not in the inner city. there's this pan-racial London youth accent that is somewhere between cockney and patois that is pretty much standard issue young working-class London.

― Randall Helms (RPH), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

stevem, I think early on in your post you're getting "Mockney" mixed up with Estuary English. Mockney is a deliberate attempt to emulate the Cockney accent, usually by someone from a well-off background. Estuary English follows the same rules as Cockney (the droppin' of letters, the overuse of slang), but has a lot less of the "Gertcha me ol china" about it.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 00:39 (twenty-two years ago)

While agreeing with the list of "most famous British accents" given above I should point out that there are probably more Scottish dialects per head of population than there are English ones - and Welsh accents vary pretty dramatically too.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

more than English? that surprises me...i know there are variations but they dont seem THAT different (obv. the diff between a resident of Govan and someone from Dundee is notceable tho)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

... per head of population, I would say so. My father was from only 7 miles out of Glasgow and he had a noticeably different accent from a Glasgow accent. Of course, accents are dying out all the time.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

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