Strokes/Godrich

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http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1880912

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 5 May 2003 14:52 (twenty-three years ago)

News of marginally less importance than a Dennis DeYoung/Tommy Shaw acoustic tour.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 May 2003 15:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Too bad for The Strokes. Probably would have made their music better.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 5 May 2003 18:30 (twenty-three years ago)

But then again, Godrich is free to hopefully be able to produce a couple of bands he should have been producing a long time ago, such as Muse, Elbow and Coldplay....

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 5 May 2003 18:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm happy. Godrich would've sucked all the fun from them.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 5 May 2003 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)

NIGEL GODRICH DO YOU HATE ENERGY??????

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 5 May 2003 18:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Yay - great news.

― Sam J. (samjeff), Monday, 5 May 2003 18:36 (twenty-three years ago)

This is good news, no doubt. After the travesty performed on Turin Brakes' latest by Godrich-clone Tony Hoffer, everyone should get far from these faux-svengalis of egghead sound.

― david day (winslow), Monday, 5 May 2003 18:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Yanc3 - Godrich prolly doesn't hate energy as he needs electricity to run those crappy effects and stuff he runs every band he records through.

― hstencil, Monday, 5 May 2003 18:39 (twenty-three years ago)

We saw their regular producer, Gordon, at one of the very first NYC FAPS, he was at the Pink Pony. Remember? He was the bedraggled-looking guy with extremely tight pants.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 May 2003 18:40 (twenty-three years ago)

But how long till the NME is reporting on them kicking out a bandmember?

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 5 May 2003 18:51 (twenty-three years ago)

heard rumor of this last week, happy to hear it. Godrich is Jim O'Rourke for people who think they're populists.

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 5 May 2003 18:53 (twenty-three years ago)

I REMEMBER THAT!! Oh my god, he was so horrible, he was my nemesis.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:10 (twenty-three years ago)

When did Ryan Gentles (the Strokes' manager aka Boy Wonder) become a foppish dandy?

"All parties involved had a lovely experience and Nigel and the band really did get on famously," Gentles said.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:21 (twenty-three years ago)

haha, all Americans talk that way in the English press, Yanc3

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:32 (twenty-three years ago)

coughyeahrightcough

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

But it's Billboard, Tracer!!!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Like he said.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Godrich would've sucked all the fun from them.

They have fun? (Okay, I'll stop...for now.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:44 (twenty-three years ago)

After we finish the Hongrobot, some threads could use the Raggettbot, I think.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:45 (twenty-three years ago)

The Raggettbot acts as more of a Chatbot but I can spin off a self-contained more compact version as needed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:46 (twenty-three years ago)

BURN!

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:46 (twenty-three years ago)

It was a burn on Yanc3y's part? I thought it was an acknowledgement of fact!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:49 (twenty-three years ago)

hm yes. maybe the gentles boy has been reading his own press, funny how that particular hall of mirrors works. viz. madonna. (madonna should really start reading Viz if she wants a good accent.)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:51 (twenty-three years ago)

you nerds act like you OWN the Strokes.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Dude, we're not even talking about the Strokes anymore.

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:57 (twenty-three years ago)

like I ever READ threads...to paraphrase the Coz, "I just look for my name."

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)

We own YOU Horace!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:59 (twenty-three years ago)

The Strokes copied everything they know off of us.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 May 2003 19:59 (twenty-three years ago)

ha, saw my name.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Monday, 5 May 2003 20:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Tracer = Julian, I = Fabrizio. Does Ally need to post the pic again?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 5 May 2003 20:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, except Tracer's ass >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian's ass

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 5 May 2003 20:01 (twenty-three years ago)

But my hair, according to The Hipster Handbook, is "the Casablancas."

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 5 May 2003 20:02 (twenty-three years ago)

put me with the "happy to hear it, praying this album is better than it should be" group.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 5 May 2003 20:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Yet again:

http://bitchcakes.topcities.com/images/boyz.jpg

The Strokes? Or Just 4 ILXors? IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL!

― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Wait Matos I don't understand that O'Rourke comment. Please explain.

― amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:38 (twenty-three years ago)

ha! you're all too cool. no wonder most great american bands come from texas and LA.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I want to be the bad boy of the band. Like Donnie D in the New Kids.

― bnw (bnw), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:52 (twenty-three years ago)

― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:52 (twenty-three years ago)

blount is being cute again.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:53 (twenty-three years ago)

seriously, which 4 ILMers are above?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 01:40 (twenty-three years ago)

From left: Nick, Albert, Julian, Fabrizio.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 02:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Julian woulnd't last ten minutes round here

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 02:15 (twenty-three years ago)

(it's really bnw, Paul Eater, Yanc3y, and Tracer Hand, but didn't I have you fooled?)

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 02:16 (twenty-three years ago)

God I look ill.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:14 (twenty-three years ago)

There's only so much J.C.A. that Godrich could take.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, I would pre-order the next Strokes album if I knew either Tony Visconti or Mutt Lange was producing/engineering/recording it.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I would have liked to see Alan Moulder do it

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Chris Allison, perhaps?

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:26 (twenty-three years ago)

(Allison did Wedding Present's "Bizarro", and Yatsura's "Slain By")

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Am: the populist crack was me being very facetious. but there are definitely parallels between the two's output, most notably how "interesting" and "kind of experimental" end up being codewords for "great big bleh" in the case of both.

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:44 (twenty-three years ago)

matos - listen to the yhf demos (no really) and you'll know just what o'rourke added (made it listenable)

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:46 (twenty-three years ago)

that's listenable?!?!

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:50 (twenty-three years ago)

compared to the 'more poetic' demos, yes

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:51 (twenty-three years ago)

zounds!

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:53 (twenty-three years ago)

one thing with o'rourke lately is that he seems to be getting hired by people wanting to 'stretch out' cuz his avant creds are solid, and then when he gets there he ends up reigning them back in, thankfully.

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 04:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Julian woulnd't last ten minutes round here

Hey, you leave my Jules alone! Come here sweetie, I'll protect yer saggy ass, don't worry about those awful boys.

I'll produce their album while I'm at it, too. I'd do a better job than Nigel Goodrich. I'd just sack them all, wipe the tape and do my own Velvets pastiche. Much better!

― kate, Tuesday, 6 May 2003 12:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Wasn't there a thread a while back where we nominated a good producer for the Strokes? Nigel Godrich is exactly what this band doesn't need.

― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 04:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Why does everybody hate the Strokes?

"News of marginally less importance than a Dennis DeYoung/Tommy Shaw acoustic tour."!! - Ned Raggett

"They have fun?"!! - Ned Raggett

"The Strokes are a fucking hype job."!! - Steve Albini

― Evan (Evan), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:34 (twenty-three years ago)

i like the stokes

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I love the Strokes' music. I think Visconti and Mutt Lange are the best ideas I've heard yet.

― Adam A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 23:02 (twenty-three years ago)

I want to own the Strokes. The can have my body if I can have their souls.

― Kris (aqueduct), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 23:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Who wrote "Hey Hey We're the Monkees"? That's who they should hire.

― Kris (aqueduct), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 23:12 (twenty-three years ago)

written by Boyce/Hart

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 23:17 (twenty-three years ago)

"News of marginally less importance than a Dennis DeYoung/Tommy Shaw acoustic tour."!! - Ned Raggett
"They have fun?"!! - Ned Raggett
"The Strokes are a fucking hype job."!! - Steve Albini

Raggett and Albini AT THE MOVIES!

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 8 May 2003 01:19 (twenty-three years ago)

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― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 8 May 2003 01:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm all for that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 May 2003 02:10 (twenty-three years ago)

Ally, I kiss you

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 8 May 2003 03:26 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...

From the current Rolling Stone:

"We got along really, really well," says guitarist Albert Hammond Jr. of the Godrich sessions, "but we just had different ways of working. We'll spend days getting the right drum sound. We don't want to hear, 'We'll fix it in the mix.'"

― Sam J. (samjeff), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't think ANY band wants to hear "we'll fix it in the mix". why do i get the feeling Godrich is a bit of a charlatan?

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe he was just politely telling the band they sucked

― dave q, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe they were telling him the same

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

this depends on if "we'll spend days getting the right drum sound" was him bragging or complaining

― dave q, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

This is a bit odd... Because wasn't Malkmus' complaint about Godrich that he made him do the vocal takes until he got it "right"?

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

bragging, duh

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)

then there's no hope for them is there?

― dave q, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)

takin what they're givin cuz they're workin for a livin

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

i think both band and ex-producer are talking shite to avoid having to tell the truth. i doubt gordon raphael spent more than ten minutes on any of the sounds on is this it..

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

they probably just didn't want everything soaked in digital reverbs

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

digital reverb is as lo-fi as you can get!

― dave q, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

also, what if they were just REALLY REALLY bad? like, stealing shit or something like that on top of being useless. It does happen.

― dave q, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

and the "days getting the drum sound" comment appears to tip it in that direction

― dave q, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

it's only really the singer and the afro guitar dude that are useless though

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

they're not bad, though--live they're really tight, especially now. anyway, Godrich = charlatan is old, old news.

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

so we can't blame him for OK Computer?

― dave q, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

yes yes that's obvious, still, i was surprised to hear a "fix in in the mix" crack from him

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 5 August 2003 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

we can blame him for sea change

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

for the new Modey Lemon album the guys in the band threaded their cables down pipes in an old copper factory in Pittsburgh, down to their amps on the next floor down, and played the songs like that

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

so the drums on the Strokes album had better sound like it was miked from inside an enormous trash-can aquarium lined with space shuttle tiles!!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 03:51 (twenty-two years ago)

that's what makes him a charlatan, dave q

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 05:40 (twenty-two years ago)

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