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Just started reading his take on it. Any comments?

― Stevie Nixed, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I thought it was 'an instance of the refraction of the absent primary signifier (the phallus).'

― Momus, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is it doompatrol23?

― mark s, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Does it bang on and on about some outmoded model of "soul" then?

― masonic boom, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, it seems to be an explication of why people buy things they like. Hey wait, I answered the question!

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

that methodology seems sorta ... X-TREME! actually i'm convinced it's all an ad for that old techno website 'hyperreal'.

― ethan, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Psychoanalysis works on the basis that all pleasure is implicitly sexual

This is bollocks for a start.

Freud was a pervert and Lacan misappropriated all sorts of cross- disciplinary techniques (which he knew fuck all about) in order to add weight to his theories.

Psychoanalysis analyses things by fitting them into a grid of interpretational outcomes, and fits everything into the same grid. The answers are pre-determined by the rigid structures of the grid, so the outcomes are all the same, and no actual 'analysis' takes place.

It seems that some people will go to great lengths to justify their affection for ephemeral pop culture.

Why?

If it tickles your bollocks (or equivalent), that's enough.

Surely?

― Nick Southall, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mark, I think you posted that question 5 days early.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

a. "Psychoanalysis works on the basis that all pleasure is implicitly sexual."
b. "This is bollocks for a start."
c. "It seems that some people will go to great lengths to justify their affection for ephemeral pop culture. Why?"
d. "If it tickles your bollocks (or equivalent), that's enough."

Hurrah for logic!!

― mark s, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah fuck off. Everyone hates pedants. I can't be arsed.

― Nick Southall, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He's not being pedantic (for a change), he's taking you up on what you said.

― DG, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How though?

I didn't literally mean 'testicles' or 'genitals'.

I thought this was obvious.

― Nick Southall, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It *is* obvious: using "bollocks" twice in difft senses is just, well, a bit "can't be- arsed" – no big deal if that's no big deal to you. But the content of your FIRST statement contradicts the content of your FINAL statement.

― mark s, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, because the final statement was a metaphor.

You know what a metaphor is, right?

― Nick Southall, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No, I don't. Is it something to do with Embrace?

― DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

DG, ya still up for fourtet tomorrow night?

― gareth, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Don't know, Gareth, quite possibly not due to lack of funds, but we'll see.

― DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tell you what, go to my website, have a look at my messageboard, where I posted a list of my record collection for a couple of mates to have a look at, and see what else you can take the piss out of, eh?

www.lushalcoholsaint.co.uk

Easy, isn't it, taking the piss out of summat that everyone targets without actually listening to?

― Nick Southall, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I would but the board doesn't work.

― DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Metaphor: yes, oddly enough, I do. Do you?
Psychoanalysis — Freudian AND Lacanian — is the examination of why sexual energy gets turned into metaphor (along with a lot of other things). If your reasons for demolishing Freud were valid, final line could not function a metaphor. It would have to be biologically descriptive, and we wouldn't want that.

― mark s, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's working now...and now I know who's been buying the cack that XFM push...Gay Dad? Queens Of The Stone Age? At The Drive-In? The Seahorses? The Strokes? Terris? The Wonderstuff? EMBRACE? I can see why critical thought doesn't appeal to you, you appear to uncritically buy any old crap going.

― DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"It seems that some people will go to great lengths to justify their affection for ephemeral pop culture": some of us think about things and use (gasp!) long words, it isn't some kind of Hoggartian snobbery complex, it's just that we like to think to ourselves about why we like things. Also, Nick, we don't all use capital letters throughout most of our sentences.

― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And why I am I not surprised that the only hip-hop album Nick names among his 2000 "favourites" is the mediocre, boring Common effort?

― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Now we're REALLY getting into cheap shots... dismissing someone's record collection like this is just petty and small-minded.

― Patrick, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Word. I wouldn't want people looking at my record collection from a few years ago (or now, dammit) and judging me based on it. I take it you wouldn't either, Robin. I know considerate and intelligent people with lots of records and also with no records, or records I don't like. I also know, ahem, "insufferable cunts" whose record collections have nothing to do with their cuntness.

― Josh, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe...

My word, I have never in all my life encountered such a condescending bunch of bitter, jaded, miserable bastards.

Enjoy yourselves.

I'm off.

― Nick Southall, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can we hold you to that?

― Josh, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes you can.

― Nick Southall, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He demanded we look. I looked. He demanded we see what else we could take the piss out of. I saw what I could take the piss out of, and acted accordingly. And now he's off sulking. Fair enough.

― DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

now i dont know any of you from adam, or indeed nick, but you all talk a load of shite.

― cacambo di michele, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

now he was right about one thing though and thats pedants. i mean who the fuck likes poor people anyway?

― cacambo di michele, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

aah, worked out an answer to my question and thats hippy gob shites, like yourselves, who ponce around discussing meaningless toss and thinking there some a1 motherfucker philosopher/marketing guru cunt. thank you.

none of you are over 15 are you?

― cacambo di michele, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Heh. You are wrong, and I'd bet any money you're Mr. Southall.

― DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nah, that's not me. That's my ex-housemate. He's a lawyer, excuse him.

― Nick Southall, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nick dont apologuise for me.

― cacambo di michele, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd be surprised if anyone here is *under* 15 ...

― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, the average age for people here is about 28, more or less.

― DG, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i'm younger than average. cool.

― gareth, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

mark s = seven now and forever

― mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If DG's right I'm 7 years 1 month younger than average *feels unusually young*.

― Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bloody hell - the things you kids get up to on these threads when I'm not around...

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nine months pass...

Was cacambo di michele in league with Nick Southall? Methinks there was a bit of the unconscious guiding this thread.

― Dare, Monday, 6 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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