Channel 4 Teletext Guide to Punk

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Ch 4 Teletext p185. Sorry to Non-UK ILMers.
Avril gets a mention.

Rick Aranga, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Avril gets a mention.

Unless the words "not at all..." preface the word "punk" in the sentence regarding Avril, the piece is immediately rendered moot.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

moot as in spot on

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

moot
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Pronunciation Key (mt)

adj.

1.Subject to debate; arguable: a moot question.
2.
a.Law. Without legal significance, through having been previously decided or settled.
b.Of no practical importance; irrelevant.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

yr. coasting mark.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Well lets just say that its aimed at kids, Busted get a mention for trying to look onstage like 'Wheatus' and it tells you how to dress 'punk'.
If you're a punk then i suggest you dont read it...

Rick Aranga, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's that article almost in full (my teletext capture is generating slightly garbled pages thanks to a weak Channel 4 signal, and the first page got messed up bad) -

TAKING A POP AT PUNK

With the rock scene flouncing around so
elaborately in the mid-70s, punk was
a way for bands to strip music back
to basics.

Most of the songs had an angry, social
agenda - dig out a Clash or The Jam
record for proof! - but it lasted
for just a couple of years.

US punk arrived with Nirvana and
Greenday spurting out tunes on teen
angst. They were a bit less vexed.

Punk pop took on a skater edge with
Blink 182 and Sum 41 giving us gems
like All The Small Things just a few
years ago.

Music execs got wise to this surge in
the genre's popularity and soon acts
were popping up all over the shop,with
many slipping into the nu-metal fold.

At the moment have Good Charlotte and
The Androids riding on the crest of
the tongue-in-cheek punk wave.

Appealing to the pop, skate and rock
fans is a mighty hard job, but somehow
Avril Lavigne has ended up with a wide
appreciation society at 18.

It's only fair to say Pink and Kelly
Osbourne have been influenced by punk
to give their commerical releases a
snappier edge.

And Busted might be pop, but their
guitars and stage jumping scream out
that they want to be like Wheatus.


HOW TO BE PUNK POP

 Say stuff like, "Dude", "I'm down
with that" and "We're rollin'".

 Wear baggy trews and hoodies, or
vests too if you're a girl. Add flat
skate trainers to complete the look.

 Style your hair in an original
fashion and mess around with colouring
it mad shades.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Aww, that's adorable!

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i won't stand for this any longer - darling, we're leaving...

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

That really is super-cute.

What I want to see, by the way, is hippies doing the "that isn't real hippie" thing -- this would be fantastic.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Those responsible should be bludgeoned with their own sawed-off limbs.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Aww, that's adorable!

Ferg (Ferg), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

That's totally the best history of punk I've ever read.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe its a sarcastic dig at all the wannabes out there...that'd be better

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The style guide for teenage hippies would be interesting (or any genre)

Rick Aranga, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

c0m1ng s00n - teletext guides to:

norwegian satan-loving black metal

nazi/bdsm-industrialist

pervy-goth

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Pervy-Goth? Channel 4 Teletext guide to Marc Almond then?

Rick Aranga, Wednesday, 7 May 2003 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

YES!!!!1

Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

God damn I love Alex in NYC.

David Allen, Thursday, 8 May 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone here here
 Say stuff like, "Dude", "I'm down
with that" and "We're rollin'".

 Wear baggy trews and hoodies, or
vests too if you're a girl. Add flat
skate trainers to complete the look.

 Style your hair in an original
fashion and mess around with colouring
it mad shades. ?

Rick Aranga, Thursday, 8 May 2003 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

that's brilliant, and is so gonna be forwarded to my nine year-old niece as soon as I can manage it.

i'm rollin'.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 8 May 2003 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

skate rat in a hoodie = a... yeah nevermind.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 8 May 2003 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe Alex In NYC is down with this?

Rick Aranga, Thursday, 8 May 2003 07:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Several years ago I started an argument on the C4 music teletext letters page (The Void?) by stating that Primal Scream and Prodigy were far more 'punk' than Green Day and NOFX. Lots of people wrote in saying I was an idiot.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 8 May 2003 07:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like either band(Jilted generation excepted) but I agree with you.

Rick Aranga, Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:35 (twenty-two years ago)

The writers on the C4 page are the worst idiots on earth, "here's a dance tune you can fill the floor with for sure, many great buzzes with this one, unlike souless pop pap"


"heres a rioutous rock tune you can fill the floor with, many great riffs in this one, washes away the memory of pop pap"


"pop pap is no more, as long as these guys keep producing such fine guitar grooves, blistering"

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, at least they're not the fucking Vibe on BBC.

"Why don't we talk about the underrated Delirious? on this place? Am I the only person who's heard of them? They're much better than this R&B rubbish in the charts today!"

"Does anyone know if JJ72 are touring?"

"In my opinion, the best lyricists ever are Nick Drake, Jeff Buckley, and Kelly Jones"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 8 May 2003 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

the writers on the vibe are funny, they are quite tolerant and open minded but don't ever get excited about non rock stuff, it's as if they all have big brothers who are techno addicts who bully them into being polite about music they dont like, and even praising it.


john earls on the c4 page is a fucking muppet though.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I was specifically refering to the Vibe letters page, Ronan, which is as close to hell as you could ever imagine.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 8 May 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yes. why does noone mention you are all twats on these pages?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 8 May 2003 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

bring back Jon Homer!!!

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

(Jon Homer was the Tom Ewing of C4 Teletext's pre-Carlton music section Beatbox circa 1992)

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm down with that...I think.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 8 May 2003 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)


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