Pulp guided by Scott Walker

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So, the Pynchon of crooners follows the perversely uncommercial "Climate of Hunter" and "Tilt" with producing chores on the upcoming Pulp album.

Good idea? On his part, on Pulp's?

Likely outcome?

― CountV/John T, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, new Pulp single 'Sunrise' is very good, and very epic, so maybe it'll be a good thing. Though if Jarvis starts warbling 'I give you, twenty-one, twenty-one...' at the start of any tracks I will run away.

― Paul Strange, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Coming after 'Different Class' it would've been a masterstroke, coming after the risible 'This is Hardcore' it's just desperation.

― tarden, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What I want to know is how come Pulp + Scott Walker = More Spiritualized Than The New Spiritualized Single ?!?!?

― masonic boom, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't think anything out-Spiritualizes the new Spiritualized single.

I liked 'This Is Hardcore', too. There were too many fillers, but some of the tracks such as 'The Fear', 'Dishes', 'Sylvia' and 'The Day After The Revolution' were great.

― Paul Strange, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think it was GLR? After "Party Hard", one DJ said "That's David Bowie with a track from 'Lodger'". DJ 2 - "No it isn't! I have that album and that track's not on it." DJ 1 - "Well, this is from the new CD with the bonus tracks." DJ 2 - "Oh, right." DJ 1 - "Ha! Gotcha! It's actually PULP!"

― tarden, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anyone claiming This is Hardcore was bad or had filler is insane. But I respect this. ;-)

Once I've actually heard the darn thing I'll say something -- but right now in principle it's a great idea.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

well I must say I do like Sunrise, although personally I think the end-part is highly annoying. But it's a great song and I like it a lot better than the live-versions of it I got.. so yes the new album does sound promising.

― vdivx, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm a big fan of both Pulp and Scott Walker (tho I don't really play "Tilt" for pleasure much), but I don't think that having Walker as producer is a good idea. Doesn't a band as ambitious and prone to "epics" as Pulp need a producer who will keep them on track? Walker doesn't sound like the man to me, tho I could be proven wrong. Haven't heard the single either...

― Sean, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

what's wrong with epics? the three minute epic is a poor idea as it doesn't have the space and scope for the expectation/denial axis which is the thrill of an epic, but with walkerian economy pulp epics could be great.

― matthew james, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well - I think this covers any answer I might have for the '2nd half of 2001' thread. Any idea when this is slated?

― Jason, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is it just me or does Sunrise sound just like mid-period velvets (post white light white heat, but before their equipment got stolen and they went soft for their s/t).

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wait! Sunrise doesn't just sound like mid-period velvets, it IS mid period velvets, a warmed over version of The Ocean. Not that I mind. Except you can't top Cale's organwork on that number.

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Haven't heard the single yet, but it sounds like VU?

Honesty, I don't need that kind of depressing news this early in the morning.

― CountV/John T, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's a rip-off of "Ocean" but I like it more because I like Jarvis a lot more than Lou Reed and think that sunrise as a metaphor catches the song's mood better than ocean as a metaphor captures its songs mood.

The choirs are nicked off Gainsbourg's "Cargo Culte" though surely.

BUT can I be a wanker and say that the live bootleg Leeds 2000 version I've been playing to death for months is better? Thankyou.

― Tom, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I hardly know any Pulp songs but the ones i know are good. & the idea of Scott Walker as a producer seems a really inspired one - Scott Walker music (the interesting part of SW records) minus his singing & lyrics (don't like) - has he produced anyone else's records ever?

― duane, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

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