New Blur album - dud or dud?

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What a pile of shit.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm not impressed by what i've heard

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Damon Albarn should be on a leash.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Bring back Elastica.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I love it. You are all grey.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I would like to see Damon Albarn on a leash.

OH GOD THE LOVE-HATE LUST RELATIONSHIP CONTINUES, PT. 437...

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, if you'd also like to watch him jerk off, the new album is for you.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:23 (twenty-two years ago)

The parameters of this question are unjustly constructed to elicit a negative response. Because of this, I can't participate. No fair!

paul cox (paul cox), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha.

Okay, step back... deep breath.

So, what does everyone think about the new Blur album? Isn't it the fattest turd you've ever heard?

Damn! I did it again!

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, if you'd also like to watch him jerk off, the new album is for you.

Funny, I wasn't interested at all before I heard this...

Sean (Sean), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Why is the blame/credit for the shifting musical direction placed solely on Albarn's shoulders? I always had suspicions that Coxon kept a pretty tight reign over the rhythm section and now, with him absent, they're allowed to cut loose and meander a little.

paul cox (paul cox), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Hence the remark about the leash.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

So the album is a bit of a dog?

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Perhaps I didn't state it clearly. What I meant to imply was that Alex and Dave took the initiative and created some sturdy, extended grooves.

I'm by no means anti-"old" Blur, but "new" Blur is so much more to my liking.

paul cox (paul cox), Friday, 9 May 2003 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's a screenshot of Damon from the kickoff video from the new record:

http://www.kuci.org/~brianm/ile/alexei.jpg

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

and another one from a different angle

http://www.internetweekly.org/images/Kojak.jpg

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)

nme.com has a live review which kind of sums up how i feel, i feel i should hate it. blur as alburns vanity project, the scariness of the world music vibe. but strangely i don't. in fact in think its pretty damn fine. there is an excellent review of 'we've got a file on you' tune on the skykicking blog. um yeah be handy if i had the webaddress but i don't.

gallantseagull, Friday, 9 May 2003 04:33 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.viceland.com/issues/v9n4/htdocs/touching/1.jpg

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

The only thing worse than this album was seeing it performed live at South by Southwest.* "I've got gospel girls singing back-up vocals" = "I think I'm Gof" = "kill me already, I've long exceeded my own relevance." Can't believe that people with otherwise respectable tastes in music like this so much. (Mr. Sherburne?)

*Errr, does the fact that the Rapture opened up for them excuse the fact that I went to see Blur play live? Umm... How about the fact that I walked out after four songs...? No?

flightsatdusk (flightsatdusk), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Err, Gof?

flightsatdusk (flightsatdusk), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:37 (twenty-two years ago)

John Goff

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 9 May 2003 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)

New Blur is a joke. I'm sorry, I've stood with them through countless stylistic changes from Shoegazer to Baggy to Mod to Krauthop to whatever, and they always kept *something* that kept me interested.

Whatever it was that kept me interested is now gone. I don't want to say that "what kept me interested" was necessarily Graham, because I always thought the basslines were the best thing about Blur. But... there used to be a tension, a balance - you'd be listening to schaltzy bubblegum pop, and then there would be this weird twist and this horrible noise would intrude and make it wonderful. But now it's like the twist no longer happens.

Blur are now worse than merely bad - they are predictable and dull where they used to intrigue.

kate, Friday, 9 May 2003 08:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I second Kate on that. Even though I think that Think Tank isn't such a bad album, it just doesn't seem a Blur album, the surprise factor is gone. (The only surprise I had was the hidden track before track 1... not a good sign.)

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Friday, 9 May 2003 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm very surprised kate and Kenan are so vocally down on Think Tank; I've listened to the first side twice so far and really enjoyed it (not got round to side 2 yet, but have brought it to work today). I really like Ambulance, the single, and Good Song, and there's been nothing I've disliked thus far. I think over their last two albums Blur have become the band Radiohead would like to be. I like the fact that the band (and I really don't think it's just Damon, though obv. he's the 'leader') are clearly into all kinds of music and are trying to integrate that love for music into what they're doing, rather than standing still and playing within a pre-established formula that's already proved successful. The fact that they were posited as rivals with Oasis back in 95 and are now doing this while Noel does Heathen Chemistry is just staggering; Noel appears to be into being a rock star while Damon & co. appear to be into making music. I always used to feel slightly begrudging towards Blur, but over the last couple of years they've cemented themselves in my mind as one of the UK's finest bands; isn't it the case that when you first get into music you want bands to last forever and always change what they do buit without ever radically alienating their fans from one album to the next, ie; by exploring new teritories but keeping the hooks and tunes there? Because Blur have been around as long as I've been into music (longer) and that seems to be what they've done. Although I've got all their albums I'm by no means "a Blur fan", and thus far I'm really into Think Tank.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 9 May 2003 08:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that might be the difference - I am a Blur Fan, therefore I'm probably expecting more from them.

I'm expecting the little weird textural bits that act like a hook in my brain, and I didn't hear them. Then again, my experience of the album was hearing it in full in a record shop. But even before I was aware of what it was, my reaction was "ugh, this isn't very good, what is this supposed to be? It sounds like bad Blur."

kate, Friday, 9 May 2003 08:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The 2nd half of the album is better, Nick. It has "Jets", my favourite track of the whole album, and it has one of those typical blur "punch in stomach" moments with "We've got a file on you". Those are the reasons why I still have faith in a future for Blur...

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Friday, 9 May 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Got it on now; Out Of Time - I just love the way Damon lets the melody drift and waft like it's getting caught on eddies and currents, it sounds so easy and natural. He's always been very good at it. After having to listen to and review the Cave In record (which is fucking godawful shite), which has the worst vocal melodies and lyrics evah, the Blur is a really gorgeous change.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 9 May 2003 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)

ok i heard about 3 or 4 tracks off this while browsing in a record store, including "Out of Time". My brother has bought it, so i'll be able to give it a proper going over very soon.

first impressions? quite good, actually. i enjoyed the single quite a bit, damon's singing seems to have improved with age. it seems a lot more *tastefully* done than 13. The production on that album was way too busy, this one sounds a lot more relaxed, and the better for it.

of course, the other 8 or so tracks i haven't heard could change my opinion drastically...

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 9 May 2003 10:11 (twenty-two years ago)

the more i listen to it. the more i

love it. really. apart from crazy beat which is truely distasteful. actually did norman cook produce anything else on it? i hope he didnt get paid much for that effort.

i'm not sure about da-mons rabbitin on in the first track either. kind of ruins it for me. except for the shoutin bit. he's a world class shouter is da-mon.

word.

gallantseagull, Friday, 9 May 2003 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

GODDAMN YOU ALL THAT'S NOT DAMON ALBARN.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Damon and Ally sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, that's mature.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, it would start with kissing, and get more mature from there.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

they dont call him Arch-Duke Stilton for nothin

stevem (blueski), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

gallantseagull: Senhor Cook also produced "Gene by Gene."

as for this album, i like it quite a lot. i had little to no interest in picking up 13; perhaps that might change, but i never really got around to it. my favourite song is the hidden track, but i enjoy all of it, and "Battery in your Leg" is so gorgeous. the elegiac and simple but oh-so-catchy repeated descending guitar line grabs me every time. a reminder that Graham with the band was great, yes---but they're capable of pulling something quite good off without him, as well. which surprises me---i never thought he was the sole driving force of the band, but i didn't think it'd be as good without him, either. and instead, i honestly think this is better than a lot of things they've put out. i don't dislike old Blur (cettainly not), but it's been interesting to see how they've changed over time.

janni (janni), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)

janni; I had no interest in 13 for ages, then got it a few weeks ago (cheap) and was really, really impressed. If that helps!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 9 May 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha, Think Tank is da bomb diggiddy U R ALL GAYM SHOW HOSTS

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

(honestly my favorite thing so-far about this record is all about the rhythm section...they get really loose and fluid and they seem to be really enjoying stretching out a little into something more than "boom-boom-clack-ta-clickitty-clack" straight rock-style beats)

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

There are a few songs I would lose but I thought it was a fine little album -- Graham leaving was, frankly, an improvement.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

i think they need t-shirts for this album that say "blur is about disgust." :)

Ned: what songs would you lose? i can see where it might stand to lose a few to being b-sides to singles or something, but my problem is that my opinion on which to lose seems to change regularly depending on what mood i'm in. "Ambulance" kinda lost me at first, but after it builds up it's such a good intro track that i began to feel it was fairly indispensible to the feel of the album. "Crazy Beat" should probably be a single off on its own and not even be on the album, although it doesn't really bother me (except in thinking about how often i'm going to have it drilled into my head via radio waves when it's picked up and put on Incessant Airplay here in much the same way as "Song 2" was). "On the Way to the Club" slept off a bit and then grew on me. there's a few other instances as well...a couple could probably easily be trimmed, but i'm not entirely sure which ones. :)

janni (janni), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the singles b-side that rips off the mavericks bigstyle

s.r.w. (s.r.w.), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned: what songs would you lose?

Whichever one was another attempt at A Loud Brawling Rock Song Oh Yeah We're Down With the Kids, for a start -- "Crazy Beat," I think.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Graham leaving Blur like thingy leaving Wilco; ie; it forces the rest of the band to try out new things away from geetahs (which they maybe always wanted to do anyway)?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 9 May 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

They've not done one album I can listen to all the way through without skipping tracks. I think they have outstanding moments on their albums ("Blue Jeans" on Modern Life is my fave Blur track) but it worries me that as history comes and goes, Blur will be remembered when the much, MUCH superior back catalogue of Pulp and Suede might not. That sucks. Blur have never written a "Common People" or "Wild Ones".

Calum, Friday, 9 May 2003 15:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm with Nick, on this one. (And I seem to remember 'Think Tank' getting much love around here when it first showed up on Slsk.) I reckon too it's an instance of the band's more wayward side (one hesitates to use the word "experimental" applied to something as fundamentally conservative, but the Radiohead analogy occurred to me also) taking over without occluding the pop, uh, skillz. I agree with Kate about many things, it seems (I, uh, kinda like the Dandy Warhols record, but *it* seems "predictable" by contrast,) yet not this. I think it's fun...not perfect, mind you, but interesting and fun, which is plenty enough for me.

M Specktor (M Specktor), Friday, 9 May 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm finding it very likable/accessible, more quietly confident and not trying as hard to be Xperimental & Crayzee as 13 (though that album's high points beat the high points of Think Tank... so far). My favourites right now are (tellingly, the most lyrically disposable of the bunch) "We've Got A File On You" and "Jets". On a technical note the "hidden" track on my copy isn't hidden, it's just the first song with "Ambulance" tacked after it in an 11 minute long track 1 that doesn't fucking play on my stereo blaster, dammit!

Poppy (poppy), Sunday, 11 May 2003 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Would you think me wishy-washy if I admit that this album has grown on me, and I like it more than I ever thought I would?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

yes.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 May 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, to hell with it.

The Fatboy tracks need to go, and the album isn't very tight, and some of the songs seem half-written, and too dependent on texture and production, but "Ambulance" is great, and the album as a whole no longer offends me. I just had to get over the idea that it's a Blur album.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a popular fantasy drama on at the moment right, which I won't name in case it spoils it, but in it there's this godlike figure that's suddenly appeared on earth and everyone loves her cos she's really benevolent and kind and pretty and much nicer than anybody expected she could be given the sinister nature of her conception (there was an unholy sacrifice leading to her being born - get where I'm going with this?). But one of the characters is gradually overcome with a nagging sensation that there might be something wrong with the situation, and then one day she looks at benevolent godlike figure AND REALISES HER FACE IS ALL EVIL AND DEAD AND FILLED WITH MAGGOTS.

So far I really like it though.

Ferg (Ferg), Saturday, 24 May 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Aha. Uh.

I like it. I'm getting a lot of the aforementioned sense that I SHOULD hate it though. I don't like the Gorillaz-y ones, or that sax solo on Jets, or some of the vocals (but the ones on Out of Time and On My Way To The Club are great), but other than that I think I enjoy pretty much the whole thing. I'm just wondering if at some point I'm suddenly going to shudder and go 'hang on, what was I THINKING?'

Ferg (Ferg), Saturday, 24 May 2003 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Somewhere around track six or seven, maybe?

The beginning and end of the album are much much better than the middle -- a sure sign of not having ehough viable material, but being DETERMINED to make a cohesive album anyway. No luck, but nice try.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the problem is with the sheer improbability of me liking it in the first place (band in 'difficult' phase sacks most interesting member while lead singer further plumbs depths of own ass via cartoon monkeys and world music = how did this happen?) rather than the boring middle section. It took me a few listens before I could actually listen to it without blacking out between tracks 4 and 8 though.

Ferg (Ferg), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

ok ok so think tank is not the wonderful dark-pop masterpiece that its predecessor was, but IT'S STILL OODLES BETTER THAN THAT CRAPPY NEW OASIS ALBUM!!! And in the end, that's all that matters. As Oasis go further and further into Dullsville, Blur are trying new things. Dig?

Evan (Evan), Sunday, 25 May 2003 07:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Like firing essential band members. Yes, I understand.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 25 May 2003 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Being better than the last Oasis album ain't exactly aiming high is it?

Ferg (Ferg), Sunday, 25 May 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

have given this a few listens now, and my (mixed, but mostly positive) reaction is covered below...

http://www.ratatatat.blogspot.com

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 25 May 2003 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard Crazy Beat, which reaffirms that, personally, Blur's we-have-nothing-to-say is much less offensive than Oasis's.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 May 2003 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

crazy beat is a low point. this album is better the more relaxed it is. doesn't come close to matching the britpop trilogy for me, but it's better than i thought it would be.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 25 May 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

A shitty Blur album? No! Next you'll be telling me that they used digital effects in those new Star Wars movies!

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 25 May 2003 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

b-b-but...the great escape was one of the 90's best albums. how soon we forget... :-P

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 25 May 2003 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't heard it, but want to. Everyone's calling it really self-indulgent. That sound's great; the more self-indulgent the better. Don't hold back for anything, go on a limb, do what YOU want, and the music will be good.

David Allen, Sunday, 25 May 2003 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i quite like the single,despite my cynicism about the band

robin (robin), Monday, 26 May 2003 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

3 weeks in and i'm still feeling it. loving it. living it.

against all odds. they've made a great rekid.

gallantseagull, Monday, 26 May 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm.. surprisingly I like what I'm hearing so far (this is the first time I've bought anything by Blur, which is something of a heresy for me..). Given that I'm deep into a Fela obcession right now, this kinda fits in nicely.
I quite like 'Out of Time', altho it sounds suspiciously familiar.. Could it be 'Mr. Tambourine Man' buried somewhere in there?

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)

ok ok so think tank is not the wonderful dark-pop masterpiece that its predecessor was, but IT'S STILL OODLES BETTER THAN THAT CRAPPY NEW OASIS ALBUM!!! And in the end, that's all that matters. As Oasis go further and further into Dullsville, Blur are trying new things. Dig?

Annoying trash is still annoying trash. Nobody gets points for trying new things if those new things sound horrible.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

the wonderful dark-pop masterpiece that its predecessor was

Hieroglyphs.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 12:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, now that I'm good and familiar with this one, here's my take on it: if they had shown the self-control to not include "Crazy Beat" on this rekkid, it would have been (IMHO) a start-to-finish CLASSIC. "Out of Time" is so subtle and gorgeous, "Good Song" is very pleasantly understated, that one Moroccan Bowls whatchamacallit has definitely grown on my and gets stuck in my head HARD, "Sweet Song" is so tranquil and wonderful...I mean, except for "Crazy Beat" (a recording which further fires up my urge to decapitate Norman Cook), this is a GREAT rekkid.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)


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