from the Detroit Metro Times: 15 bands to watch

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Here they are. Can anyone offer up their opinions?

Michael Ellison
The Original Brothers and Sisters of Love
The Elevations
Troubleman
The Rioteers
dykehouse
Athletic Mic League
Brownstudy
Tamion 12 Inch
Gold Cash Gold
Man
Jim Roll
Matthew Dear
Perspects
Amino Acids

here's the link to the piece http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4874

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I am only familiar with a couple of the names here, but any opinions the Metro Times have to offer should be treated with a great level of suspicion in general. Music is not their strong point.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm familiar with Man. I prefer solo Deke Leonard, though.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks for the tip, Nicole.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha Hurlothrumbo OTM.

First we had some lame band indie band named Gravy Train, now someone's calling themselves Man? What is wrong with hipsters today, jeez..

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

dykehouse is on planet-mu i believe. never heard him/them/her tho.

jason m. (jason m), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Dykehouse has a weirdo shoegaze throwback album due out later in the year on Ghostly. (I like his cover of Wire's "Map Ref" even more than MBV's, even though it's almost exactly the same.) Dear is great -- the False comp on Plus 8 is excellent Germanic house, and his 12" on Perlon as Jabberjaw sits pretty in that label's catalog. Brownstudy is Jason Hogans, who released an EP a while back on Planet E. He has some broken beat/hip-hop mishmash material floating around that is, for the most part, fabulous (particularly this one song that's about his car being jacked).

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I've also heard of Dykehouse and Matthew Dear.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Dykehouse has a weirdo shoegaze throwback album due out later in the year on Ghostly.

Throwback! Gaze is now. If only because reverb never stops until someone turns off the pedal. ;-) But I will keep this name in mind.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I miss Orbit.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Agreed, Nicole.

Ned-- I can pretty much guarantee you will like Dykehouse.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Amazon.com Rock Editors' Top 10 2002:

1.) Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
2.) Peter Gabriel - UP
3.) Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
4.) Elvis Costello - When I was Cruel
5.) Jim Roll - Inhabiting the Ball
6.) Steve Earle - Jerusalem
7.) Beck - Sea Change
8.) Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf
9.) Robert Plant - Dreamland
10.) The Soft Boys - Nextdoorland

Exciting, huh?!

(Though, okay, I actually like the Queens of the Stone Age and Robert Plant albums. But that's just 'cause I'm an old coot from the '70s.)

chuck, Friday, 9 May 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

And Gravy Train are actually pretty great, by the way, as lame indie bands go. (They're no Deke Leonard, though--I'll admit that.)

chuck, Friday, 9 May 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Goddamn that Amazon list makes me want to jump off a cliff or something.

Deke Leonard

Hmm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 May 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm following you off the cliff.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Embrace oblivion with me, Jeanne! We will be free of adult album alternative! (Though I'm with Chuck on Robert Plant's worth and would spare an album or two from that list, it's more the mindset the list evinces.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 May 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The Soft Boys as tolken unknown to the public at large critcal darlings. Amazon editors are hip!!

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

tolken unknown

This typo entertains me so.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

should be Tolkein unknown, really

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 9 May 2003 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to agree with Nicole to a certain degree: the current music editor of the Metro Time sucks. Total rockist. Some of the freelancers are decent. I've seen Tamion 12 Inch, the Amino Acids, and Perspects live. Tamion 12 Inch are kinda like my friend recently pegged them: "Adult. Jr." I enjoyed them. Amino Acids and Perspects were okay, but nothing great.

I miss Orbit, too. Instead we're stuck with Real Detroit Weekly. Bleah!

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Friday, 9 May 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Dykehouse is good stuff.

Tamion 12" are like Adult. Jr. but without the songs or production skills to back in up. They might be getting better, but I found their recordings and live sets to be lackluster at best.

Perspects is Ian R. Clarke. Ian was the other half of Le Car with Adam Lee Miller (from Adult.) Perspects has the distinction of being one of the very few artists who have recorded with Ersatz Audio that are anywhere near as good as Adult. themselves. He just put out a record on Interdimensional Transmissions a couple months back that was quite solid (and quite solid from a music nazi like me is high praise.)

Mike Taylor (mjt), Friday, 9 May 2003 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)

As far as Metro Times being bad for music, perhaps it is time for ILM: 313/734/248/810/586 to start infiltrating MT. David Allen already has his foot in the door.

If there is somebody around here who needs to write about dance music for Metro Times, it is Andy Kellman. He is OTM 99.987% of the time. Aaron W is a pretty sharp fellow as well.

Real Detroit is vomit. A few friends from the 313 list and I put together a FAQ for people coming into Detroit for the first DEMF. They "borrowed" the events section of this FAQ. When I say "borrowed" I don’t just mean the same information typeset differently, I mean the same info down to the typos and a couple lineup mistakes. They literally cut-and-pasted it and printed it in their handout for the DEMF.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

should be Tolkein unknown, really

But but but that was my point! *weeps*

If there is somebody around here who needs to write about dance music for Metro Times, it is Andy Kellman.

Rah! I second and third this. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 May 2003 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Mike is too kind.

Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 10 May 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Whuh... did I just say what I think I just said?

(We all know about Ned, etc.)

Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 10 May 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Run For Your Lives!

OH NO!!

There goes the PHEAR again!

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice to see the Detroit/Ann Arbor/AMG folks put in their appearances. How many other local(734->248->313) folks read this thing, anyway?

Yeah, that list is a funny thing. How did the Elevations get on there? Eric & Co. put on a fine show and are all good people, but still, they've been a band for, what, 3 months? Does the cute top-heavy sidekick chick know how to sing into her mic yet?

Oh, and both the MT & Real Detroit music/film staff(s) are almost completely out of it, in different ways. Mr. Aaron W. above can probably fill in more details.

Dammit, if the Amino Acids are on there, what about the Clone Defects? And ditto the Rioteers for the Riots...

Kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sort of interested in some of these bands, but for the most part I tuned out from this thread when I learned that dykehouse was not in fact a genre.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 11 May 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

or, for that matter, a band of dykes.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 11 May 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

"Dammit, if the Amino Acids are on there, what about the Clone Defects? And ditto the Rioteers for the Riots...

-- Kingfish (jdsalmo...), May 10th, 2003."

The Clone Defects are so awful.

David Allen, Sunday, 11 May 2003 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

So make that your first column, David.

Hey Jeremy! What up dog? I'm pleading the fifth on local papers... I need them to write about Ghostly.

And Dykehouse roxx u r all gay.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Sunday, 11 May 2003 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

speaking of the MT, what's up with some of those non-critic "critic" pieces? Some of them's some pretty funny shit, the piece about white kids at MSU liking Public Enemy being a prime example...

Kingfish (Kingfish), Sunday, 11 May 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the Clone Defects are grate! The reason being that they are complete rockist knuckleheads who make these bombastic rock records. They have staked out a music stance and they make it a point to embody it completely in their records. Their 7"s are fucking brilliant. Vigorous rock and roll that is not distracted by proving how witty and erudite the participants are. They lay it down on their records, and when they hit, it is a home run.

Whiskey And Women will be a compilation classic in 20 years, and Lizard Boy and Rouge River Rebel are excellent examples of primal rock power. They are awful in the best way possible.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 11 May 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

They're complete moron pricks who make shit music and are assholes to their fans.

David Allen, Sunday, 11 May 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

will godzuki ever release anything ever again?

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 11 May 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw dion godzuki play an all electronic set in an instore at record collector a few years ago but nothing since except for erika hoffman singing for saturday looks good to me.

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 11 May 2003 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

...and that is why they are so great.

I am not exactly sure what they are like these days. I haven't had a real conversation with anyone involved in that band since 1995. I would imagine that they could be very difficult to deal with, especially if you are 17 and not a violently ideological rocker.

That is what I like about them, they are being the kind of person I never could be. Those guys all got into Punk in high school and never ever let it go, they have a highly defined stance and they work within insanely strict stylistic boundaries. I would never allow my musical life to revolve around what they are doing, but I find them to be a very interesting tangent. It is like what happens when you get a bunch of guys who take this shit seriously and live their life out according to it. They work shitty jobs, get drunk all the time, and write really dumb Dead Boys knock-off songs about girls.

I like it because they have a worldview that is drastically different from mine, and their records allow me a glimpse into what is going through their heads musically. It isn't something that I would want to be personally involved with, and I have no intimate connection to it whatsoever. I even find the purism a bit much, but I like the extreme nature of it.

I keep their 7's right next to my Burial Mix 10's on my record shelf. I listen to a lot of different stuff these days, most of it very far removed from anything the Clones are involved with. They are ugly and stupid and primitive, and they are priceless after you have listened to a lot of very clean and refined music. I can earn more hipster points by listening to Teutonik Disaster and Arthur Russel, but sometimes I want to pogo like a close-minded mongoloid. The Clones fill that slot in my collection, so for me they are classic. YMMV

Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 11 May 2003 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

How are Saturday looks Good To Me?

Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 11 May 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

How are Saturday looks Good To Me?

Very very good. I think them and Pas/Cal deserved to be on this list, but that's just my opinion. They're both indie rock in a world of garage rock. Tres sad.

will godzuki ever release anything ever again?

Dion is playing guitar in The Go (yawn) and I think Godzuki officially broke up a few years ago... next time Dion is staring at my girlfriend, like he was at the Rapture last weekend, I'll be sure to ask him.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

would someone please finally off The Go for the rest of us? We'd be ever so grateful...

Kingfish (Kingfish), Monday, 12 May 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Fear not, they've done a good job offing themselves. It's pretty funny how they were the first Detroit garage rock band to get signed (to SubPop no less), had Jack White as their guitarist for a while, and still no one could give two shits about them... not that anyone's actually heard them.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 12 May 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

My friend Mike freelances for The Metro Times. So far I think it's been articles about amateur wrestling, tho. But he's written for AMG, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 12 May 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

ah now i remember where i heard Tamion 12" from - they are on the "misery loves company" compilation that was put out by ersatz audio. i loved that track, as i remember it was called "thin boys murdered" and yes, sort of like an "adult jr.".

jason m. (jason m), Monday, 12 May 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)


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