what the hell is Bob Weir's prolem?

so points raisd above -
1) i never noticed hotpants or even short shorts - he likes shorts
2) bad jokes - the man is on drugs (apply to above)
3) weird eyes - the man is on drugs

you prefer jerry's voice? not that there is much to choose betweenthe two but bobby actually had a voice while jerry croaked for about 20 of the 30 years. both their voices succeded depending onwhat they wre singing and even then if that night they were able to do it - I love 'Crazy Fingers' more often than not (i.e 99% ofhe time) I would suffe thru Jerry's singing till he shut up and started playing guirat.

Bobby is singing "looks like rain" "cassidy" or whatever, his voice generally is ok, probably it is also that he is nor required to hit same notes as jerry but more power to him if his is smart enuf to sing in his range.

Drak Pack was just as an important part of my past as Voltron, but moreso even!

Also, I love the Dead, but have never been able to say I love Bob Weir. I went from hating him to tolerating him to actually liking a few of his songs. Basically, I just can't stand his combination of country bumpkin and hepcat whiteman vocal inflection, but occasionally he pulls off a great song (i.e. Pride of Cucamonga).

Jerry Garcia ruled, though, even when he was too fat and out of breath to hit the notes or sing coherently. Something about his voice is just so fucking emotional and sweet.

"Estimated Prophet"? "One More Saturday Night"?

Fucking "Playing in the Band"????!!!!!!!!!!!

Did he do "Unbroken Chain"? If so, there's another notch in the con column.

He's definitely a worse singer than Jerry; after all, he's the guy on all the live stuff who interjects all the off-key yelping, and the "Whoah Yeah!"s and the "Oww!"s.

Still, I kinda like him in spite of all that. He's just living the dream, you know.

But yeah, he is a total goofball. I kind of think he knows that, though.

http://faculty.eas.ualberta.ca/wolfe/IMAGES/bob-weir-madonna.jpg

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=g:thl2195132889d&dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=35e3973f.2217734%40enews.newsguy.com

This sounds more like high comedy to me.

He's supposed to have been straight since around 1966, isn't he? Always thought that was a little strange.

Search: “Estimated Prophet’, “Looks Like Rain” “Other One”/”Spanish Jam”
Destroy: “Victim or the Crime” “Feel like a Stranger” “Picasso Moon”

Though they’ve become part of the Dead canon I’ve never been particularly enthused abt “Playing in the Band” “One More Saturday Night” or “Music Never Stopped” etc. I prefer what could be classed maybe as the second-tier songs like “Cassidy” or “Mexicali Blues” and to a lesser degree “Jack Straw”. I would put my three search picks up in amongst the best Dead songs tho.

Depending on mood I can either find “Sugar Magnolia” just cause for killing the band and other times I’ll happily hippy out. “Sunshine Daydream” is better just ‘coz I haven’t had it shoved down my throat as often.

James Ball – well, in a video I saw of New Year’s Eve Dead show circa ’86 or so Bobby’s pupils look like he’s on about half a sheet of acid. Find it hard to believe he gave up drugs in ’66 or so.

U.S. Blues
China Doll
Unbroken Chain
Loose Lucy
Scarlet Begonias
Pride Of Cucamonga
Money, Money
Ship Of Fools

Weir's worst tendancy is go go falssetto. *Shudder*

Poor Garcia. So talented. He deserved a better band.

friend just offered me a free ticket to the weir/chris robinson show in boulder next week! second row! i'm totally going! i will ask bob weir what the hell his problem is.

No, ask him what his prolem is.

what is your prolem, mannnn

he gives a weird finger. up above. some people throw a weird bird.

that is quite the weird bird.

if you've gone to all the trouble of constructing the pointer, ring, pinky block why leave the thumb all hanging out there like it was broke.

Never knew until now that "Ace" is essentially a Dead album.

Love this thread, even with terrible attribution errors above.

I do Bob Weir air guitar moves to all music, including classical. He can be a total cheeseball obv but I often think he had the best sense of humor and perspective about the band. And Jack Straw is his best song, possibly the greatest GD song of them all.

every time he speaks between songs he sounds irritable & often really condescending, even on early late-sixties shows, to the point where when he gets started I'll find my self saying "shut the fuck up, Bob" to the stereo

I rescreened Festival Express recently, and there's some footage of an informal press conference on the train, which was presumably held to mend fences w/the Canadian underground press who'd been so critical of the motives behind the tour. A very unchill Weir snaps at one of the reporters who'd suggested The Dead play for free with something along the lines of "We're working musicians, man! That's how we make our living! You just can't understand that this doesn't happen for free, and that's really sad...." which I guess was pretty ballsy for July '70, particularly coming from someone in THE GRATEFUL DEAD.

Not terrible at all, and one of the most recognizable voices of his generation.

"HEY now GET BACK trucking on"
"HEY now GET BACK trucking on"
"HEY now GET BACK trucking on"
"HEY now GET BACK trucking on"

My Bob Weir problem is that I first heard "Black-Throated Wind" on Steal Your Face.
"This sounds like it could be a great song, but the vocal track is completely buried".
So I listen to Ace only to find that the studio version has an intrusive horn section and drumming that just plods through all of the switches of time signature.
On which of the other live records is there a decent version of this?

he seems to have poor mic technique sometimes, like he often comes in too loud or will like randomly back away from the mic for a second mid-singing.

lol
You’d think after 50 years …

this 1990 performance of estimated prophet has stuck with me for years because of bob’s weirdass vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7ndrom5F6c

this gif is my favorite thing to come out of Dead & Co so far:

https://j.gifs.com/G5zVXK.gif

Scatman Weir

Dude is soooooo out there. I love it.

"We can share the women, we can share the ice cream..."

https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/ben-jerrys-jack-straw-berry-bob-weir-ice-cream-flavor/

On the back of the container, the Ben & Jerry’s crew gave its lyrical regards to the visiting musician: “We can share the strawberries / We can share the vegan cream / We can keep on groovin’ along / ‘Cause Bobby’s helping us live the dream.”

Mickey Hart of Darkness Double Fudge Swirl

Estimated Sherbet

Sugar Coneolia

She Wants Honey

I Know You Scooper

My Bob Weir problem is that I first heard "Black-Throated Wind" on Steal Your Face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEZZfXsooX4

Unbroken Cheesecake?

Throwing Cones

Mountain Swirl

Dark Starfruit

Fudge Ripple

Tiramisu Station

shake it, sugar cookie

uncle john's banana

Oh no!

lol

Pistachio Moonpie

Thank you Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro) for solving my Bob Weir problem!

*prolem

The Rocky Road To Unlimited Devotion

Looks Like Rainbow Sherbet

They've had Cherry Garcia for like decades so are they giving the other memb4rs flavours for real or has it only been the 2.

Only the two, with Wavy Gravy as an aside.

I really love Bob Weir.

His songwriting from the '90s on is so odd and so good! I think in the '80s he still expected to make some pop chart impact with his solo work, but eventually he realized it wasn't happening, and started writing Picasso Moon and Hell in a Bucket.

I’d use the word “serviceable” to describe him in terms of complementing Jerry. But his live outro ad-libs are pure full body cringe

As a recent semi-convert to the Dead, Bob is usually my sticking point. “Serviceable” is apt. I actually quite like “Hell in a Bucket.” He’s okay on first set songs like “Minglewood” or “Walkin’ Blues.” His country and Chuck Berry covers are lackluster.

But the lengthy, proggy songs like “Weather Report Suite” or the “Sailor/ Saint” medley, or “Victim or the Crime” which I mentioned recently in another thread, are stuffed full of too many chord changes, and want for a much stronger vocalist.

And I really dislike “Looks Like Rain.”

Oh, but I generally like his Dylan covers, so props there.

Yeah I like all of his songs on Built To Last. I love “feel like a stranger”. I do not love “Mexicali blues”.

No one’s listebing to the dead for Bobby

Gonna be a long long silky crazy night

No one falls in love with the Dead cause of Bobby, but once we're there, I think he can become an additional reason to listen. There are definitely days when the Dead song I want to hear the most is Estimated Prophet, or Passenger, or Cassidy, or Eternity, or Corrina, etc

“I think he can become an additional reason to listen. “

Nope

I’m not a hater. One of my first ways into the Dead was Burning Spear’s cover of “Estimated Prophet” so I like all Dead versions including Bob’s yelly ones. And I just listened to a spacy “Playing” where I could really tune in to what his rhythm guitar was doing.

Estimated is cool, I’ll give him that. But it’s Jerry’s lines that make the song

Calstars and I boogie on opposite sides of the Weir spectrum, but:

his live outro ad-libs are pure full body cringe

Robert Hunter thought that too, it's why he didn't write anything for Bob for decades.

It just occurred to me that I might come better-equipped than most to be patient with Bobby, because the first Dead songs I ever loved, age 10 or so, were the studio versions of New Speedway Boogie and Throwing Stones. So the band was always a two-sided deal for me. And it was always the songwriting that captivated me, along with the blend of the whole band's sound, Jerry's guitar being a taste I still haven't fully acquired. I like it but I don't hear its revolutionary aspects. My favorite lead guitar tends to be jagged and noisy -- Neil Young, Colleen Kinsella, Martin Barre. It's probably why I have so much time for a post-Jerry project like Furthur. I miss Jerry's voice a great deal -- I *love* him as a singer -- and above all I miss his songwriting, but his writing had slowed down so much by the '90s anyway...

Speaking of... would anyone care to put together an annotated, let's say, 10-live-track listening guide that would highlight what it is exactly that puts Jerry's guitar playing out in the cosmic sphere? That's no small task, but I promise to listen carefully.

You're in for a treat. I didn't really get into the Dead until a couple years ago, despite having seen them about 10 times in the 90s, when Garcia was not at his peak to put it mildly.

This 1977 Sugaree is a high point. It's not even about the band playing together, jamming. It's just Jerry going off for 20 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVkcQnyUSp4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRtUk805_OE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnJmQQ9Kkfg

I just watched a few random moments of the second set and it seemed a little… rough. Maybe you had to be there.