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Anyone have an opinion on this Finnish zine? I bought a few copies, hoping it would replace the sorely missed Muckraker (one of the best zines of all time IMHO) as a publication that pays close attention to noise / psych / freefolk / drone, but I have a few issues (no pun intended) with it. First of all, there are NO BAD REVIEWS. I hate this, it's like a magazine full of ads. Don't 'review' records - CRITIQUE THEM!! On the bright side, it DOES cover a lot of my favorite bands (though the Jewelled Antler fanaticism is a bit much even for me) and Ned Raggett writes for them, and that's worth the money right there (btw Ned yr Acid Mothers review was on the money).

Thoughts?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 11 May 2003 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, thanks! :-) I still need to get a copy of the issue -- and considering I wrote that thing on a combination of lack of sleep and a suddenly approaching deadline, I'm surprised that I've gotten such good comments on it as I have!

Mats Gustafson, who edits the zine, lets people offer up what they want to review easily enough, but he also gets promos to review to offer to people as well. Had I some of those, I might have had some negative things to say! But I responded to that too late, and I think for the most part we're all just talking about records we like, so hey. :-)

It's openly following in the footsteps of the mighty Ptolemaic Terrascope, of course, so that might take your fancy, Roger, or maybe you've already sampled and found it wanting (I actually first heard about BF at Terrastock 5). If we are talking about writers for BF in general, a tip o' the hat to fellow Walkabouts fanatic Peter Sjobolm here...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 May 2003 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i like broken face, it's a thoroughly decent read, but then i'm biased, i write for 'em.

i think roger's criticism of bf for printing no negative reviews could be extended to 95% of zine culture, really.

nice to see a tip of the hat to muckraker, probably my fave zine ever, better than forced exposure even ... i'm sure patrick marley would be blushing right now.

jon dale, Sunday, 11 May 2003 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)

...NO BAD REVIEWS.

My suggestion is to indulge in a wonderful suspension of judgement while swimming in the pure bliss of enthusiasm and beauty found within it's pages.

The other publication which completes the Holy Trinity of the Psych/Folk field is called "DREAM" Magazine. It is also very, very good.

V (1411), Sunday, 11 May 2003 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice to see Jon Dale resurface too. How the heck are you?

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 11 May 2003 06:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Why should a (maga)zine feature bad reviews? As though by adding those, the good reviews seem more believable? Maybe they decided that omitting bad records/reviews, they save space to highlight the good records out there?

nathalie (nathalie), Sunday, 11 May 2003 07:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Bad reviews encourage discussion and its good to think things over. if there is a bad review of someone you like that's OK with me.

so if a zine offers good reviews and good reviews only then you've got to be vary of it.

I like opprobium quite a bit bcz they do give bad reviews (but they havem't published anything in ages). it's realistic to expect that not everything you get through the post will be good.

is the new halana worth getting?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 11 May 2003 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)

julio

i haven't seen the new Halana but it supposedly features Elaine Radigue, so it's probably worth getting. That's another great zine, there - consistent and aesthetically pleasing to boot.

Opprobrium, as far as I know, still publishes, but it's online only now. Get yr NZ fix.

Funny you say that about P Marley - I spent some time with him recently (I also used to write for the Muck) and when John Olson and I tried to convince him how important the zine was, he did, quite literally, blush, and seemed genuinely surprised by it's impact. No chance of him ever publishing it again though, I'm afraid.

re: negative reviews: If something sucks, it's your duty as a journalist to both the reader and the offending band to describe why. Any journalist who refuses to give something a negative review isn't worth his weight in Fraternity promos. The problem, as I see it, is that a lot of smaller zines don't get promos from labels, and only review what they actually buy. Of course this creates a problem because you're less likely to trash something that you were interested in enough to pay for. A lot of zine editors end up sounding like battered wives making excuses. "I don't care what everyone else says about this record, I paid $17.99 for it and it sounds good to me. You don't know what it's like when we're alone" etc etc

Otherwise, you're just giving free ad space. Nothing makes me angrier than reading a "review" that basically plagiarizes the fucking one-sheet. What's the point?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 11 May 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

chris, nice to see yr name pop up, check yr e-mailbox.

i think julio's pretty perceptive here, you do generally have to be wary of mags that offer only good reviews: i've been stumbling around this issue myself, trying to get issue the fourth of astronauts together (3 years and running). but it was just too much fun to slam the aphex twin (again.) (drukqs = weakest record of the decade so far?)

but broken face has a definite aesthetic, which they've refined and re-defined to the point where people who send 'em discs will know that the bf dudes are into it; my suggestion of a piece on minimal house (just to throw some other options in there) was politely dismissed, but that's ok by me, bf have their heads in a different space to that. talk about drawing closely delineated aesthetic parameters if you want - and maybe it's a valid accusation - but i think mats has his head screwed on straight, he knows what he wants out of his 'zine and he gets it w/pretty remarkable results. that sunburned hand of the man interview, so great! ditto the yahowa.

and there were a few reviews in the last issue that were a bit -ive, though they were generally aimed at records that didn't fit the bf vision.

but this is a tough one, whether a 'zine should stand as a CHEERLEADER for a nascent phenom (this is clearly how broken face has clearly positioned itself w/regards avant-folk) or as a CRITICAL space. maybe the very best zines do both (opprobrium, muckraker [be still my beating heart ...])

(ned, i 2nd the comment re your amt review.)

and roger is right - there is nothing worse than one-sheet-as-review writing. there's a pretty funny thing (or at least there was) at that band national park's website which published a) a one-sheet written by david keenan for a festival happening in glasgow and b) the article from a glasgow paper which plagiarised so blatantly it was hilarious. i've seen it happen too many times (and once had a one-sheet i wrote for a show i co-organised just republished straight by the street press over here in adelaide, particularly ridiculous because i wrote it pseudo-intellectual just to see what would happen. i think it's the first time the word 'exigencies' has appeared in the paper, but nevermind.)

i just got semi-stalked because i mentioned how shit a local label was in a review. ridiculous.

jon dale, Sunday, 11 May 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

well, maybe semi-stalked is a bit over the top.

jon dale, Sunday, 11 May 2003 15:17 (twenty-two years ago)

''Opprobrium, as far as I know, still publishes, but it's online only now. Get yr NZ fix.''

oh yeah I know they publish online but they haven't updated it in ages so I'm wondering whether its still going.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 11 May 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

hey jon - psyched to see Astronauts is still happening? You still using my Dan Brown / Hall of Fame interview?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 12 May 2003 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)

james! james!

yep, still using the hall of fame interview. tried emailing you a while ago but alas, no response. good to know you're still floating around.

(sorry about personal use of board, will restrict.)

jon dale, Monday, 12 May 2003 04:19 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
Is there another zine that's popped up in the wake of The Broken Face for psych/drone action and other crazy music? Suggestions?

mcd (mcd), Monday, 18 October 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, there's always the estimable PT, but Broken Face itself has somewhat transmogrified into a record label with an associated mailing list that I'm on, along with lots of other fine folks:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/brokenfacerecordings/

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 18 October 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The before mentioned Dream magazine is good, and comes with a cd of nice stuff. Foxy Digitalis online has its share of this stuff, too.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Monday, 18 October 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone pointed me in this direction….very interesting thread. I don’t necessarily mind publishing negative reviews but with the Broken Face it got to a point where we had so many records to review that we simply couldn’t cover them all. And with that in mind we simply had to choose between writing about something we like and something that didn’t really stir our souls. Not a very difficult choice if you ask me…

Mats Gustafsson, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Other nice mags include Jon Dale's Astronauts and Smallflowers Press.

Mats Gustafsson, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I definitely feel the void left by TBF, though I haven't checked out any of these other magazines aside from PT. And anyway, I never minded the good reviews of TBF as it was more of a way for me to hear about new & old stuff that I might like. I usually don't buy things based on one review anyway -- my resources are a little thinner than that!

Look forward to checking out the other suggestions on this thread. Thanx.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
Heads up, fans of Mats new CD w/ Sonic and Lindha Kallerdahl... Lindha is in NYC this week, doing a gig weds 11/17 at Location One in SOHO. One set solo, one set with Ikue Mori. More Info go to roulette.org

john allen (john allen), Monday, 15 November 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Heads up, fans of Mats new CD w/ Sonic and Lindha Kallerdahl... Lindha is in NYC this week, doing a gig weds 11/17 at Location One in SOHO. One set solo, one set with Ikue Mori. More Info go to roulette.org

john allen (john allen), Monday, 15 November 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I miss broken face.. randomly flipping through copies of it at Armageddon Shop in providence when I was in high school got me into a lot of good jams. I think i mentioned that on the noize thread from last week.

foxy digitalis is good; lee jackson writes bunches for it and he's a good writer.

Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 15 November 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)


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