Ut c/d, s/d

got 'conviction' and 'in gut's house' through slsk and from the one unattentive listen I gave it really good stuff.

really needs a reissue.

My friends hated them BTW, but what the hell did they know anyway?

Last time I saw his name in print was on an article he'd done about Siberian ritual and shamanic music that was published in some musicological journal or other. I *must* get round to properly investigating this man, I've got a hunch that there'd be some terrific stuff going on there...

He made a record with Skullflower - the man's a friggin' champ! The Work sound great too. From 1980:

"For the International Festival of New Music at Reims, this group prepared a set of highly structured instrumental music. But in summer began a process of collective song-writing and the emphasis moved towards rhythm, noise, and the unmuted clash of electric guitars..."

ut is great, i've heard everything except _griller_ and it's all been pretty cool. i do wish they'd reissue it, though.

what about jacqui ham's post-ut group dial? can dial get some love? _infraction_ has to be some of the ugliest basement rock since prime dead c.

'griller' is also on slsk so if you have it then get to it null.

Parts 1 and 2 of a great recent 3-part interview are now up at Warped Reality, along with several choice mp3s.

An acquaintance recently described Ut as sounding "like Sleater-Kinney if S-K had been a lot more original." I think this does both bands a disservice but there might be a particle of truth in it.

For the longest time, I could only hear "Evangelist" (from In A Gut's House) off that Blast First! comp Nothing Short Of Total War, which was all mastered on one track, so I had to fast forward to the track manually to grab it.

Next we will need a CD of the Gynecologists, Nina Canal's pre-Ut no wave band. Apparently the only extant recording, a live tape recorded by Dan Graham, is in the possession of one T. Moore.

I've got Griller & Early Live Life on LP but still need the other stuff.

http://www.warpedrealitymagazine.com/2006/07/ut_part_three.html

Anyone who doesn't know the track needs to listen to Canker.

YES. It's on their MySpace page. (Equally awesome from Griller: "Safe Burning" and "Rummy.") ...Their MySpace page describes them as "Indie / Alternative / Grunge." WAHT.

Did these guys actually invent Throwing Muses?

Ha, the same thing has crossed my mind more than once.

(Bruce Russell reviewed these reissues in wire.)

Hm. It's not online, is it?

That Dial album is nearing completion. Should be on its way soon.

sweet. i loved the other ones.

OK, that new Dial album, 168k, will be out very shortly. Forced Exposure, Carrot Top, and NYC shops like Sound Fix + Other Music should have copies really soon, if not NOW.

There's a nice review + MP3 over at Marc Masters' NoiseWeek blog and another here.

Apparently there was an Ut reunion show in London last week. It was unannounced and only four songs were played (Big Wing, Hotel, Swallow, Confidential) but there are other shows planned.

Now it's leaked that they'll be playing in NY at Issue Project Room as part of something called the Theoretical Music Conference, something organized by David Grubbs.

Wow I missed Elvis's post before - wonder where that happened, I had no idea!

It was at a Dial show at the Luminaire, Dial being Jacqui Ham's band.

Look! : http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=4405026&blogId=536728354

Link to info on NYC "Theoretical Music Conference" show on November 5th: http://events.myspace.com/Event/5799909/Theoretical-Music-Conference#

Really hoping they'll make it out west.

That Ut live record is still great.

http://www.as220.org/images/calendar/UT.jpg

Also this date:

http://www.issueprojectroom.org/2010/09/26/theoretical-music-concert/

t/s: ut vs ui

vs un

would even sfj choose ut over ui? obv he'd prefer esg. too bad there will never be a 3tkf reunion.

there are quite a few feuds in this scene that continue to this day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI_dD3SMaIg

^ could listen to this forever btw

there are quite a few feuds in this scene that continue to this day
― sarahel, Thursday, October 7, 2010 9:22 PM

omg, is that ever true...watch your step around one particular member of ut--just wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHhnHVrLHgk

^ sounds fucking great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8-5peQ-toE

^ SHam SHack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bxnImehvyc

^ Hotel

was at that brooklyn show. they were good but they literally took anywhere from 1-5 minutes in between every song. really kinda killed the momentum!

well, it was their first headlining gig in almost 20 years.

yeah, I still had a good time. not a diss. just gave things a basement show vibe, which has its charms.

it was pretty disorienting because I couldn't see them at all (stage wasn't elevated) and they didn't really address the audience in between the songs either. I just found out they were switching instruments by reading this thread!

"^ sounds fucking great"

In total fucking agreement. They need to come to London.

And I need to pay attention when they do.

If they do come to London pls bump this thread

If they come to the west coast pls bump this thread

Remember very well seeing their LPs on the shelves >20 years ago, but never actually heard them; then I bought Griller from the cheapo 2nd hand bin today, and damn this is pretty great!

Is there any authoritative info on how their name is pronounced, btw? Regarding orthography, I see that discogs use all-caps ("UT"), while e.g. Wikipedia and musicbrainz go with "Ut". Silent-H "Hut"? "Oot"? "U.T."?

ut as in kick your butt

ut as in gut's house

!!!

UT
Friday 23 September
The Lexington, 96-98 Pentonville Road, Islington, N1 9JB

!!!

Conviction is a great record; don't sleep on that one...

i almost picked up In Gut's House this weekend, but it was $20 and i didn't know what it sounded like. i knew it was post punk and i think it was on souljazz's new york noise comp, but no one at the store could help me out, so i passed.

Of the top of my head, I think the track on the soul jazz comp was earlier. In Gut's House is pretty great though I mostly return to two longtime faves...Evangelist and Mosquito Botticelli.

UT
Friday 23 September
The Lexington, 96-98 Pentonville Road, Islington, N1 9JB

― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 16 May 2011 Bookmark

No fking way!! *marks calendar*

xp, yeah, the track on New York Noise 2 (if that's the Soul Jazz comp people are referring to) is "Sham Shack," from their 1984 debut EP.

here's what you missed out on jaxon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONqP2rnCKo

I prolly listen to in gut's house and the first EP more than anything else by them

they never made a bad album, or a non-interesting one

so the uk shows are imminent. who's reachin?

brighton show this sunday - cannot wait! listen to 'in gut's house' all the time, so dense & fractured. love the dead c reference upthread.

I'm going to the London show on Friday.

I'll be at the Brighton show too. I know that Bruce Russell was a big fan of the band cos I remember he talked about them in a review of the Dial album that he wrote in Opprobrium.

got my eye on Bristol on Saturday but I need transport, also I am going to a cheese festival in the daytime which normally leads to me eating so much cheese I need to lie down all evening

would love to hear all yr thoughts after yr respective shows. i'm also keen to find a copy of bruce russell's wire review of the ut re-issues.

mencap, being "with cheese" shouldn't stop you going out and having fun like everyone else, but i guess i understand.

I'll be at the Brighton show too. *excited*

Should actually listen to some other stuff aside from In Gut's House on repeat, mind you.

I'm trying to free up my diary to get to Bristol.

I'll be at the Brighton show too. *excited*

Hooray! Their last album, Griller, is on spotify btw (along with In Gut's House):

http://open.spotify.com/album/7GoWZB4mnyBDgod9AAWRBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YviHsiTQvmY&feature=related

I really liked Quint, Sally Young's later folky-proggy outfit. Their lp Time Wounds All Heels is pretty god though they may have been better live.

I had no idea they'd reformed until I saw this thread. Thought it would have come up somewhere else.

Great video Tim, thx

Makes me crazy and mad that i missed them though!

They were pretty great in Brighton, I will say.

I'd heard of Quint, but never made the connection. Might see if I can find some youtubes.

From show in Paris earlier in the month:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ax_OFb1w4

I used to have all of their records. I wish they were available on streaming - it kind of sucks that I can't put tracks of theirs in a mix.

Early stuff is here:

https://utmusic.bandcamp.com

bought a copy of 'in gut's house' from a guy on discogs marketplace, he included a photocopy of a review penned by none other than mark s!

it me haha, hi donna

i'm back at griller today for obvious and sad reasons 😔

Safe Burning is such a strong start to an album. Just amazing sound, and Ut at their most accessible.

The best they ever sounded. They really went out at their peak.

I didn't think this when it came out -- it seemed a bit too clenched and I was secretly a little disappointed -- but I think that I do think this now.

"Went out" isn't right though, they still tour now and then!

the drummer makes a big difference to the feel of the music. not sure who he was, looks like he also played with the pastels at some point. saw them live a few times around this point. but that was as the usual three piece all swapping instruments between songs

Griller was the first one I bought and I was a little disappointed with it at first, probably because all I knew about them was they were a "no wave" band, and I expected them to sound like Teenage Jesus & The Jerks or something. I bought Early Live Life next which was a bit more like that. of course I grew to love Griller after I'd listened to it a few times

faintly wondering if "charlie dinsdale" (= the drummer on several tracks, tho not all) is maybe actually a pseudonym, for some arcane in-indie industry reason

if not, the pastels and ut is a p strong CV lol, he shd be inducted into RaRHoF

i mean he's just "charlie d" on the LP sleeve but discogs says it"s "charlie dinsdale"

fwiw it looks like the only Pastels release he was on was their collab with Jad Fair, which might make it more likely it's the same person

I didn't think this when it came out -- it seemed a bit too clenched and I was secretly a little disappointed -- but I think that I do think this now.

"Went out" isn't right though, they still tour now and then!

Nina Canal on Albini:

https://www.instagram.com/p/C9v2Lpqtu6d/