half man half biscuit: classic or dud

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One of my favourite bands of all time, and possibly one of the few times humour has worked in music. what do you think?

cabbage, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd insert "rock" before "music" there, Chris. Humour has worked in music in general lots of times. Certain genres lend themselves to humour more than others.

The HMHB singer shares his name with the big cheese in my company.....

MarkH, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I like Half Man Half Biscuit a lot. They are far smarter and funnier than most comedy doing the rounds on telly. But I'm afraid I rarely think to actually put on one of their records.

Nick, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i think HMHB are a good band, and they disprove the 'no humour in music' role. this may be because they aren't really a humourous band at all, but have a core of resignation at the general crapness of britain. i think it was mjhibbet who said they tell it how it is far more than, say, radiohead. i think there is some truth in this

gareth, Thursday, 19 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

he is as they say "on the money" a song such as turned up, clocked on, laid off can say as much about Thatcher's Britain as any so called protest song can.

and songs like 4 skinny indie kids and Evil Gazebo are so spot on in their obsevations on indie music.

cabbage, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Not half as good as the uber-magnificent I, Ludicrous. Songs like Man's Man, Approaching 40 (Who's THAT about?), and Support Band are much funnier, warmer and sadder than anything HMHB did. Fine people too, AND they're still gigging!

Dr. C, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I Ludicrous are often mentioned in the same breath as hmhb, particularly on the mailing list, unfortunately I can't say I've ever heard anything by them.

HMHB are gigging too, in fact they're in London tonight, for some reason I'm not going. and they only play down here once a year, when it doesn't clash with Tranmere games, contrary gits.

cabbage, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I, Ludicrous are OK, but they've never really moved me or made me LARF quite so much as HMHB do. Or should i say, as "The Biscuit" (as nobody AT ALL apart from the Guardian this weekend calls them) do.

I've said this about 10,000,000 times whenever i've had the opportunity and many times when i haven't, but i think it's a sad inditement of the music media and general "scene" that a band as literate, moving, and GENUINELY uncompromising as HMHB get written off as a "comedy band" by fcukwits everywhere. "Visitor for Mr Edmonds" off of the last album, for instance, is both 10 times more radical and 3000 times funnier than anything Radiohead have ever done.

MJ Hibbett, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I picked up an early album of theirs by accident, and thought it was very funny indeed, even if I did not understand a quarter of the UK pop culture references. The sheer disgust they manage to pack into the list of small time celebs in "God Gave Us Life" still makes me smile. But then, I guess I'm a fairly sick puppy. Cough, choke. Very glad to hear they are still around.

pauls00, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Was it I Ludicrous who did "C2s in Vans"? If it was, then they supported The Fall at Trent Poly in 1990 and they made me chuckle.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes.

Dr. C, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Nigel Blackwell is one of the greatest living lyricists in the English language. There is no such thing as a bad HMHB record, but "Trouble Over Bridgwater" is my favourite album. I usually have at least one of his couplets floating around in my mind at any given moment.

Today I am dodging men in ill-advised summer shorts, so it's:

"Opinionated weather forecasters telling me it's going to be a miserable day. Miserable to who? I quite like a bit of drizzle, so stick to the facts."

Dickon Edwards, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Bump

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
whump

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 November 2003 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
I can't think of any band who has written more songs about bands and the music biz:

eg.
Tour Jacket With Detachable Sleeves
Styx Gig (Seen By Mates Coming Out Of)
Sponsering the Moshpit
Song For Europe
Split Single With Happy Lounge Labelmates
Secret Gig
Children of Apocalyptic Techstep
Four Skinny Indie Kids
Joy Division Oven Gloves
Eno Collaboration
Bad Review
Used To Be In Evil Gazebo
Deep House Victims Minibus Appeal
With Goth On Our Side
On Finding The Studio Banjo (title only)

plus others.

everything, Wednesday, 1 June 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

The running order squabble fest songs is aces.

mzui (mzui), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

"You're going on after Crispy Ambulance!"

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

You're going home IN A Crispy Ambulance

I Know Better, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 07:45 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
revive. this is one of those bands i'd always meant to get into and as "dickie davis eyes" plays underneath this posting i finally think it's time.

cost fucked madonna (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 July 2005 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

o fuck a great lost band in my memory. so me too jody. someone make me a comp. (btw new face in hell peel sessions fall playing so i must be in the mood)

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Saturday, 30 July 2005 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...
Just listening to "The Len Ganley Stance", which strikes me as appropriate since the snooker world championship is on.

Anyway classic, but a little goes a long way.

Neil S, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

am absolutely bingeing on these guys at the moment. it is such wonderful music, especially when you've just been rogered at football. just listening to album after album is a joy. "It's Clichéd To Be Cynical At Christmas" actually gave me a warm fuzzy feeling. one of the very, very finest christmas songs, surely.

Just got offed, Sunday, 4 November 2007 20:18 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

new album, CSI: Ambleside, drops April 28

Gukbe, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:21 (seventeen years ago)

They've done a couple of songs live which will presumably be on CSI: Ambleside - I'll try to get these on my Half Man half Biscuit lyrics site as soon as I can decipher them.

Cherry Hinton Blue, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 07:58 (seventeen years ago)

Oh d'uh - I meant my My Half Man Half Biscuit lyrics site - apologies for my idiocy.

Cherry Hinton Blue, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 08:00 (seventeen years ago)

The Cornbury Festival this year features, on one day, on one stage, HMHB, Nick Lowe, and Toots and the Maytals. That's some impressive work.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 10:22 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://bp3.blogger.com/_UDIt01-jiOk/R_pqvucV33I/AAAAAAAAAAU/P-dwlSnloo4/s1600/CSI%2BCover.bmp

nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 07:20 (seventeen years ago)

So fucking stoked.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 09:54 (seventeen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BMb9GuIDL._SS500_.jpg

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 10:01 (seventeen years ago)

http://cobweb.businesscollaborator.com/hmhb/images/sleeves/Ambleside_inside2.jpg

Porkpie, Saturday, 12 April 2008 08:16 (seventeen years ago)

This has made my fucking night.

Are they CAMRA men on t' cover

Fer Ark, Sunday, 13 April 2008 22:26 (seventeen years ago)

TS: HMHB's 'Blue Badge Abuser' vs Goldie Lookin Chain's 'Bad Boy Limp'

Straight up though this is pretty great so far

DJ Mencap, Friday, 25 April 2008 17:49 (seventeen years ago)

Anybody have any thoughts on the new album? I'm still waiting to get it.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:21 (seventeen years ago)

My DiS review goes up tomorrow I think, I approve of it.

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

Better than Achtung Bono. Took problem chimp to Ideal Home Show is just plain weird - I'm trying to think what it reminds me of sounds-wise and I can't figure it out.

Bocken Social Scene, Tuesday, 29 April 2008 23:32 (seventeen years ago)

This is what I had to say: http://www.drownedinsound.com/release/view/13300

Dom Passantino, Friday, 2 May 2008 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

Pam Ayres - 'orses = lol

looking forward to hearing the new one- achtung bono was pretty good.

Jack Battery-Pack, Friday, 2 May 2008 14:52 (seventeen years ago)

I liked 'Achtung Bono' better, but it's just after the first listening. 'National Shite Day' is a classic though.

zeus, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:23 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

RFI: micro-item in this week's NME about David Cameron and Jeremy Clarkson watching HMHB perform at the Cornbury Festival, whatever that is

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 16:04 (sixteen years ago)

Cornbury festival: ultimate Range Rover and picnic hamper festival, held in a country estate near the village where I grew up. God only knows what HMHB were doing playing there.

Neil S, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 16:07 (sixteen years ago)

new material for "Paintball's Coming Home (Take Three)"

Just got offed, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 16:12 (sixteen years ago)

I've never heard of this band. I also thought I was in ILE and went, "oOH GOD NO WHO IS THIS POOR POOR MAN-BISCUIT", expecting to click and see another "tree man".

Whew. And now I get to check out a band I've never heard.

RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago)

They're really good too!

Neil S, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 16:16 (sixteen years ago)

Cornbury festival: ultimate Range Rover and picnic hamper festival, held in a country estate near the village where I grew up. God only knows what HMHB were doing playing there.

-- Neil S, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 17:07 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc16/Pee75/Image1.jpg

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 16:17 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, that.

Neil S, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 16:23 (sixteen years ago)

these AMG clips are pretty pleasing and "Used To Be In Evil Gazebo" is a pretty funny song title (providing that Evil Gazebo is another band I haven't heard of, otherwise I don't get it).

RabiesAngentleman, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 16:28 (sixteen years ago)

I've always wondered about this band. I always link them to Steel Pole Bath Tub and Terminal Cheesecake in terms of wacky band names.

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 17:30 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

National Shite Day = new favourite song

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 18 September 2008 09:52 (sixteen years ago)

Complete and utter classic. Barely a day goes by when I don't inwardly chuckle at some HMHB lyric or other which has randomly popped into my head.

Sven Hassel Schmuck, Thursday, 18 September 2008 16:02 (sixteen years ago)

National Shite Day is clearly the best song on this album. I wouldn't mind if it had been twice as long as now.

zeus, Thursday, 18 September 2008 16:06 (sixteen years ago)

second half of this album has been absolutely top-tier, weirdly a very backloaded record imo

the last two tracks are amazing

imago, Friday, 25 February 2022 20:33 (three years ago)

nigel leaning hard into the 'lovely' at times here, extremely elegiac and beautiful yes

imago, Friday, 25 February 2022 20:35 (three years ago)

On second thoughts, this really is all prime stuff. He's getting so good at character studies

imago, Sunday, 27 February 2022 09:19 (three years ago)

What's an 'onion batch'?

Maresn3st, Sunday, 27 February 2022 13:16 (three years ago)

a type of bread

imago, Sunday, 27 February 2022 13:30 (three years ago)

two years pass...

As seen on Taskmaster

https://i.imgur.com/vkCo9bG.jpeg

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Sunday, 7 April 2024 06:28 (one year ago)

one year passes...

new one out

not their best, went back to The Voltarol Years afterwards and christ it's monumental isn't it

new one has Rawlplugs of Yesteryear at least

imago, Friday, 13 June 2025 05:59 (two weeks ago)

"Voltarol Years" was great especially after a couple of mid albums.

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Friday, 13 June 2025 08:51 (two weeks ago)

"Oh, I do like to re-release me B-sides..."

Maresn3st, Friday, 13 June 2025 09:58 (two weeks ago)

I was just about to post about that track! Its a standout

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Friday, 13 June 2025 11:33 (two weeks ago)

this is excellent wtf lj

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Friday, 13 June 2025 12:19 (two weeks ago)

Falmouth Electrics and No One Likes a Polymath are both exceptional imv. not sure how long exactly Falmouth Electrics will last as a track but by god it made me laugh.

Fizzles, Monday, 16 June 2025 19:58 (one week ago)

midway through my first listen, seems like the strongest in a while. thought voltarol a bit hit and miss despite having a few all timers.

devvvine, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 13:15 (one week ago)

almost certainly the worst cover art they have ever put out

devvvine, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 13:16 (one week ago)

I mean, imo Voltarol is one of the greatest British albums of all time at this point

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 13:18 (one week ago)

well as long as we can agree hmhb would be on such a list

devvvine, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 13:23 (one week ago)

more than once

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 13:33 (one week ago)

Imago, HMHB POX please?

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 14:42 (one week ago)

Albums or songs?

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 14:43 (one week ago)

Preferably kneejerk because I have a four-hour train ride in several hours and I don't do streaming, I have to put actual mp3s and such on a walkman

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 14:43 (one week ago)

Songs!

Dagnabbit that was fast!

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 14:43 (one week ago)

Oh right lol

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 14:44 (one week ago)

the one i heard on the radio rhymed treadle (table) with (beth) tweddle.

koogs, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:01 (one week ago)

quite enamoured with that one, the bliss of the hereafter

devvvine, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:06 (one week ago)

like idk.

Fear My Wraith
Dead Men Don't Need Season Tickets
A Country Practice
Ballad Of Climie Fisher
Gubba Look-a-likes
Them's The Vagaries
Took Problem Chimp To Ideal Home Show
National Shite Day
Excavating Rita
Slipping The Escort

didn't think about this hard enough

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:20 (one week ago)

As with Willy Shakespeare, the tragedies are better

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:25 (one week ago)

(okay, that's a gross generalisation lol and also not quite true in either case)

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:26 (one week ago)

(but as with Shakespeare, plenty to laugh at in the tragedies too!)

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:26 (one week ago)

Cheers imago, I really put you on the spot there. Looking forward to hearing those ten through headphones as I stare out at the Humid Lands

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:47 (one week ago)

Do HMHB do romances? 'cause those are my favorite Shakespeare of all

TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:49 (one week ago)

Three of the above are romances of various sorts

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:50 (one week ago)

them's the vagaries might be the best song ever recorded

devvvine, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:51 (one week ago)

Do your POX devvvine!

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:52 (one week ago)

I started mine off by doing an OPO from each album but then started doing multiples and honestly I might have to sub in Grafting Haddock In The George for Dead Men...

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:56 (one week ago)

*each IMPERIAL ERA album

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:57 (one week ago)

(era largely ongoing)

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 15:57 (one week ago)

as an American I'm still not convinced this is an actual band and not just a Dom Passantino bit.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 17 June 2025 16:52 (one week ago)

Which begs the question: is there a US equivalent to HMHB?

if you want my advice get it all above board (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 June 2025 17:06 (one week ago)

I'm not even sure there's a UK equivalent unless you're counting Sleaford Mods

if you want my advice get it all above board (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 June 2025 17:07 (one week ago)

absolutely not

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 17:09 (one week ago)

regarding S Mods

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 17:09 (one week ago)

closest equivalent is Horace or something idk

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 17:10 (one week ago)

actually Horace was a bit posh

hmm

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 17:10 (one week ago)

John Clare?

imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 17:11 (one week ago)

Do your POX devvvine!

― imago, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 16:52 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

maybe this, done without thinking too much

oblong of dreams
tommy walshs eco house
this one's for now
somethings rotten in the back of iceland
them's the vagaries
bad losers on yahoo chess
soft verges
floreat inertia
monmore, hare's running
national shite day

90 bisodol would be my pick for best front to back record

devvvine, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 20:49 (one week ago)

i think the closest usa comparison would be like pissed jeans and you'd still be nowhere close

devvvine, Tuesday, 17 June 2025 20:52 (one week ago)

I'll try a POX

Turned Up Clocked On Laid Off
A Country Practice
National Shite Day
The Light at the End of the Tunnel (Is the Light of an Oncoming Train)
It's Clichéd to be Cynical at Christmas
Depressed Beyond Tablets
Excavating Rita
Awkward Sean
Them's The Vagaries
Faithlift

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 17 June 2025 22:37 (one week ago)

Them's the Vagaries and National Shite Day, three for three.

Imago, playlist is made & loaded. I'll report back.

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 18 June 2025 00:34 (one week ago)

ah Turned Up Clocked On Laid Off should have made my 10.

There's people who can't spell 'weird' right
Driving round with thousands in the bank
But I get by, got a lot on my mind
I get by, got allotments on my mind

devvvine, Wednesday, 18 June 2025 08:09 (one week ago)

Air circulation in the train sucks and I kept falling into miserably uncomfortable sleep for twenty seconds at a time. So listening conditions were not as nice as I imagined. But that was certainly innaresting.

Sting singing on the roof of the Barbican indeed!

You're a dead man, Fisher!

TheNuNuNu, Wednesday, 18 June 2025 10:08 (one week ago)


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