I picked up 31 songs in the bookstore the other day and leafed through it. I haven't read it all but what i did read was really gut cleanchingly bad. I thought the stuff on Royskopp and the Avalanches was a paraody of himself. In case if it was. its very clever stuff and i take it all back. I also put forward his review of Radiohead's Kid A (was it in the New Yorker? i can't remember) as the worst record review ever. "i can't understand the lyrics! its only for little boys who have a lot of time to listen to it."(paraphrased). therefore denoting anything complex and requiring effort is shit.
I know I shouldnt get angry but the man gets paid for this shit. Ican't think of anybody worse. Not your cigarettes or your wells or even those people who write for rolling stone.
That said I think the 31 Songs thing is for charity. Why do so many charity things turn out shit. Maybe i'll buy it. i feel bad now.
― gallantseagull, Friday, 16 May 2003 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 16 May 2003 04:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 16 May 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 May 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 16 May 2003 04:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 May 2003 04:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 16 May 2003 04:37 (twenty-two years ago)
Its also bad for arsenal fans.
― gallantseagull, Friday, 16 May 2003 04:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 16 May 2003 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― David A. (Davant), Friday, 16 May 2003 05:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― David A. (Davant), Friday, 16 May 2003 05:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― David A. (Davant), Friday, 16 May 2003 05:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 16 May 2003 07:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 16 May 2003 07:51 (twenty-two years ago)
Worst examples:- Comparing the book itself to the wholesomeness of organic food ('You pay more for less').- Calling himself a 'genius' for writing High Fidelity, in answer to critics who'd dared to dislike it.- Being disappointed in his son for his medical condition.
And that's before you even get onto the actual music-related writing, which as rightly noted by all posters above, is shameful, possibly the worst ever.
He is almost the negative image of Julian Cope (who I described on the headheritage thread as possibly the best music journalist there ever was).
― M Carty (mj_c), Friday, 16 May 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 16 May 2003 08:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 16 May 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― lurker, Friday, 16 May 2003 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 16 May 2003 09:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 16 May 2003 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)
And of course, we "hate" Hornby because he gets paid to do what we get paid to do.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 16 May 2003 09:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 16 May 2003 09:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 16 May 2003 09:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 16 May 2003 09:27 (twenty-two years ago)
He might be successful financially, but aesthetically he is wanting.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 16 May 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 16 May 2003 09:29 (twenty-two years ago)
Marcello nails what I've been trying to get at - in his native land at least he's set a definition for what being a fan/critic is. No-nonsense, passionate on occasion and apologetic on others, fundamentally something one grows out of.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 16 May 2003 09:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 16 May 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 16 May 2003 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 May 2003 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kim Tortoise, Friday, 16 May 2003 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Carty (mj_c), Friday, 16 May 2003 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kim Tortoise, Friday, 16 May 2003 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)
piffle.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 16 May 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)
If Nick Hornby wrote about his secret affair with John Major and how his record company forced him to abort their secret love child, that might be worth reading. Or at least more interesting than High Fidelity or this book...
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 16 May 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)
is that supposed to mean something specific toward me, Marcello?
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)
Like this, maybe?:
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0221/kogan.php
And Simon Frith did a great piece about her in the Voice a couple years ago, as well. The real question is, how can somebody asking the question at the top of this post not realize they're spouting a completely ignorant platitude? Kogan says Celine's new album (which I sent my copy of to him without listening to it, which maybe I shouldn't have) is one of the best albums he's heard so far this year (and he's heard LOTS of albums this year). Personally, I think the idea of her doing dancehall sounds really INTERESTING. Not sure whether I'd LIKE it, but she's generally been at her best on upbeat dance stuff; best song I ever heard by her was quite possibly "Unison," back in the early-to-mid '90s, which had a rap in it. So why SHOULDN'T she try dancehall? Can't be that much duller than Sean Paul doing it, for crissakes!
― chuck, Friday, 16 May 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)
he also forgot to mention B** W***** but i suspect he doesn't like him.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 17 May 2003 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 17 May 2003 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Saturday, 17 May 2003 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 17 May 2003 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Saturday, 17 May 2003 04:52 (twenty-two years ago)
Fever Pitch remains one of the worst books I've ever read, and I went into it open, convinced it's success meant there was something worth reading there, hoping it would explain my father's (to me) inexplicable obession with the sport, and came out raging. He couldn't illuminate anything if you handed him the sun. It was painful, in a lot of places; you hear his brain clanking away behind almost every paragraph. For such an anti-intellectual writer, he seems to spend a lot of his time "thinking." His inability to evoke time, places or people means lends his style a vagueness that I suspect is part of his appeal, in that it's requires no leap of imagination to enter his world, and there's no alienating sense of otherness. He's very good at communicating bewilderment, though, which seems to be his natural state ((My girlfriend left. I can't understand it. I told her, like the others, that of course she was important and I'd be happy to discuss our problems but later, because the match was starting in 3 hours and I was running late. She just walked out. Women are strange. They don't collect records like I do, and they're not pleased when you take them on dates to football matches, even if it's the Cup Final. Arsenal did ok, by the way, but I'm hoping next season will be better.....). After, I remember coming across an introduction he wrote for someone else's book where he praised the writer in question for his honesty. But it's inadvisable to be too honest, he added, if you want to keep the reader on side. Says it all really. No wonder Julie Burchill likes him.
The High Fidelity movie was ok, and so was About a Boy, but I've no doubt 31 Songs is screeching. It's just his revenge for being a failed music journalist in his 20s. Which he still is. I mean, I've no problem with him not listening to Suicide anymore, or not liking Kid A; criticising him on that level is missing the point as absolutely as he does. It's the application of his dull, taxonomic little mind to things of beauty (that Avalanches song, for instance) that bothers me. Show him a Van Gogh, he'll talk about the frame. It's what he does.
But I wouldn't worry.
History's waiting, broom and carpet in hand.
― Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Saturday, 17 May 2003 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 17 May 2003 09:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 17 May 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)
Me neither, but the tone of the essay was "anyone who listens to 'difficult' or 'experimantal' music (like suicide) has had an easy life". i found that objectionable. if he'd said, "i don't listen to difficult stuff like suicide any more because...etc" that would have been cool, but the assumption he made that everyone's listening patterns will be the same as his own was pretty stupid. and i liked High Fidelity and Fever Pitch.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 17 May 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― robin (robin), Saturday, 17 May 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)
His dislike of experimental music is at least honest, possibly based on a gut reaction and as such, hard to fault, there being a lot to be said for gut reactions to music. And the "easy life" assertion is about as objectionable as any other generalisation pop journos habitually make, (though the popularity of say, jazz in Eastern Europe undermines that one a bit)
I still think it's better criticising the unstinting shitness of his writing though.
And what did you like about Fever Pitch? I'm genuinely curious.
― Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Sunday, 18 May 2003 07:08 (twenty-two years ago)
That boy needs therapy.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 18 May 2003 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― duane, Sunday, 18 May 2003 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Sunday, 18 May 2003 08:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Sunday, 18 May 2003 09:16 (twenty-two years ago)
Hornby spent most of Fever Pitch in counselling. Didn't seem to do him much good, unless crushing dullness is what they're prescribing for dysfunction these days.
― Jamie Conway (Jamie Conway), Sunday, 18 May 2003 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)