the difficulty of knowing the original nature of a track (esp re : ardkore/etc) (also : mislabelling)

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(warning : 3:53am & i'm barely coherent. & xinlisupreme is melting my grey matt-er)
been on a downloading binge on slsk using the flatmate's computer in an attempt to gather tracks for some compilations.

anyway, with a lot of tracks I'd gotten off slsk/etc previously is what I'd downloaded previously didn't match up to what I was currently downloading. the version of KLF's "Last Train To Trancentral" I'm familiar with eventually turns out to be the "Live From The Lost Continent" version; I'd been listening (& loving) the Dr Trip & Bob's Bolts mix of Shaft's "Roobarb & Custard" thinking it was the original; the version of T99's "Anasthasia" I'm used to is the one with k-ace euro-rapping on it (still don't know what this particular version is called - I downloaded everybody's copy of the track until I found the one w/vox - seven out of eight were instrumentals); & the version of Messiah's "There Is No Law" with the Class Of (19?)99 dialogue at the start after the initial "the messiah for the 21st century!" ("THE YEAR IS 1999. THE GANG CONTROLLED AREAS HAVE BECOME KNOWN AS FREE-FIRE ZONES" etc) is also pretty uncommon - all these slightly inferior versions/mixes abound with no way of telling them from the (blindly downloaded) tracks I've come to love! I still can't find a version of Human Resource's "Dominator" that doesn't sound sluggish & muddy; & for around six months I went around thinking that the edit of the Foul Play remix of Hyper-On Experience's "Lords Of The Null Lines" (off the moving shadow 10th anniversary comp) was, in fact, the original (& labelling it thus on mixtapes, ILM threads, etc).

so - is it just that particular period (obscure/diy-ish limited releases, hasty/sloppy compilations, "big melting pot", "moving-too-fast", etc) + interweb inability to properly label things, to be connected with the "actual" artifacts & so on - um.
had a question.
lost it.
extrapolate, or laugh, or something.

Ess Kay (esskay), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the culprit lies with the sources. most of the trax yr talking about I know originally from compilation CDs, some of which were not labeled properly as regarding mixes et al. (I recall "There Is No Law" having that intro on the Kickin' Mental Detergent comp, for instance.) or sometimes they were labeled right but the people uploading them didn't bother w/anything but the artist and title--the Dr. Trip/Bob Bolts "Roobarb" is on Only for the Headstrong: The Ultimate Rave Compilation (and it is grate)

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

ps: the nonsluggish/nonmuddy version of "Dominator" you seek is "The Beltram Mix" (also on Only for the Headstrong, fancy that)

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 16 May 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think it's the Beltram mix, Matos - the version I had kicked off with a hoover-riff, with "i wanna kiss myself!" about ten seconds or so in; while the versions of the Beltram mix I've heard so far have started out with more siren-y stuff, the voice, then the hoover.

UPDATE : found it! id3 info says it's from a compilation called "Parkzicht Classics vol 1" (find the tracklisting in here - "android"! quadrophonia!) - only labelled as "Human Resource - Dominator" though. weird.

& thanks for yr comments/help. "Kickin' Mental Detergent"!!!

Ess Kay (esskay), Friday, 16 May 2003 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

The one that kicks off with just the hoover isn't a remix, it's the Original Club Mix.

By the way, Discogs is your friend in these matters too.

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 16 May 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

(btw Parkzicht!! THE legendary club that was the focal point of the Rotterdam sound '89-'97)

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 16 May 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, been using discogs quite a bit lately.

new gripe - 60% of people on slsk have mislabelled versions of the many, many mixes of acen's "trip ii the moon".

Ess Kay (esskay), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 07:28 (twenty-two years ago)

another sad/something reason why record labels will successfully gain a market for paid downloads -- you'll know what you're getting.

jl, Wednesday, 21 May 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)


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