Village People - Can't Stop the Music (Film)

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Is this film as bad as made out? (It does have Steve Guttenberg in it apparently, so yes?)
http://www.allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=A7976

Glitz producer Allan Carr tries to cash in on the late-'70s disco boom with Can't Stop the Music — a film of such Brobdingnagian banality that it almost in itself stopped the disco movement cold...

Jokran, Sunday, 18 May 2003 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes. Its pretty horrifying.
Any movie whose core premise is "Look! The Village People are here to SAVE MUSIC from the BLAH'S!!!" (not knowing that they are the Blahs given human form.) has got to suck obscenely huge, family-sized amounts of ass.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 18 May 2003 03:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned to thread immediately.

This movie is triumphantly awful, physically painful to endure at times. It's just this bizarre mishmosh of misguided choices, poor judgment, committee thinking by people with very little filmmaking/scriptwriting knowhow, and a total lack of focus and directorial vision. The musical numbers are ambitious, though -- sometimes even great. I love the opening sequence (Guttenberg on roller skates, dancing through Times Square).

Actually, disco was already dead (or pushed way back down into the subculture it came from) by the time Can't Stop the Music came out in 1980. Given all the production problems, it's sort of amazing it got completed at all. I'm pretty sure the film was shelved for a while -- hence the release date.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 May 2003 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The movie absolutely stinks, but it's not because the Village People are blah. In fact blah would be the last word I'd use to describe them (ok maybe not the last). But really, the acting, the script, the direction... it's really the pits. Rent it immediately!

Sean (Sean), Sunday, 18 May 2003 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

But it still does not compare to the worst disco movie of all time.
(10 mystery bonus trivia points to whomever can name that flick.)

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 18 May 2003 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)

And I love that the Jacques Morali character was rewritten as a nebbishy New York Jew with an omnipresent yenta mother.

Although it works out, cuz from what I can tell, Morali kinda looked like Guttenberg!

On the right:

http://www.disco-disco.com/images/henri-jacques.jpg

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 May 2003 03:19 (twenty-two years ago)

that movie would be "roller boogie" starring linda blair

donate my 10 points to red cross

Richard Hung Himce Elf, Sunday, 18 May 2003 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved it. It's probably my favourite 70's disco movie.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Sunday, 18 May 2003 04:16 (twenty-two years ago)

My wife saw it at the pictures. That's why I married her.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 18 May 2003 08:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned to thread immediately.

What's been said about it above. Compared to the other hyperindulgent end-of-era disaster Xanadu -- also entertainingly lame but somehow even more of a stultifying 'what the FLYING fuck' experience that makes you want to hate people (and why am I not surprised Joel 'I produced The Matrix so I'm deep now' Silver produced that one) -- Can't Stop the Music is somehow ridiculously sweet in its vapid stupidities. It has the choice line "Anyone who can swallow two snowballs and a Ding Dong shouldn't have a problem with pride!" -- it is genius beyond measure. And I must and shall get it on DVD.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 May 2003 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I also like Valerie Perrine's use of the word "peculiarities" to denote those traits befitting her friends' seeming queerness (and that's the extent of the homosexuality dialogue in the whole film -- it's hinted at knowingly but never directly addressed, which is understandable for a mainstream movie in 1980, and my gut tells me that if Can't Stop the Music was being made in 2003 with a bunch of non-circumvented gay stuff written in, it wouldn't even have a CHANCE to bomb because no studio with the money to back such a "star-studded"/time-consuming/problem-plagued project would have the two Snowballs and a Ding Dong to RELEASE it.

I wish they'd done a Ritchie Family movie.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 May 2003 10:19 (twenty-two years ago)

But it still does not compare to the worst disco movie of all time.
(10 mystery bonus trivia points to whomever can name that flick.)

It is The Apple. Oh yes.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 18 May 2003 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Love this movie.Worst disco movie for me has to be 'Music Machine'starring Patti Boulaye.

Paul R (paul R), Sunday, 18 May 2003 11:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The worst disco album cover of all time (which I was reminded of this weekend when sorting through my LPs):

http://www.disco-funk.co.uk/j/Covers/lorrain2.jpg

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 May 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Especially awful considering this:

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre200/e276/e27678jrk9v.jpg

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 18 May 2003 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)

She sings on this, which I also have:

http://www.disco-funk.co.uk/s/Covers/saturday.jpg

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 18 May 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Disco Dracula.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 18 May 2003 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

When the V.People pleather-sporting dude is trying to lose his butterflies before 'the big concert', he bangs his head against the side of the toilet stall and chants, "Leathermen NEVER get nervous! Leathermen NEVER get nervous!" This has become code amongst my brothers and I for how to deal with stressful situations.

I'd do a whole thing about the unbearable poignance of this scene [having taken on a whole leather persona to escape the dreariness/unimportance of his life, no doubt growing up in some intolerant farmtown where he had to stay in the closet, now he has to face stress of a whole different kind, and is now learning that personae are useless to dispel fear] but it'd sound dumm.

Neudonym, Sunday, 18 May 2003 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

An absolutely gigantic review of this film here.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Sunday, 18 May 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah yes, the wonderful Jabootu review. I should have linked into that!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 18 May 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with Ned about how the film almost seems sweet in its vapidness. There's a earnestness and naivete that almost rescue it from its amaturishness. Almost.

Sean (Sean), Sunday, 18 May 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

It's great! the barbecue in VP's backyard where they come together, the whole VP milk ad, Steve Guttenberg, Bruce Jenner - what's not to love

plus the fact it was directed by Nancy Walker always gives me the giggles

H (Heruy), Sunday, 18 May 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw it for the first time when I was about 10, and watched it about 15 times because I loved it... haven't seen it since, but now I REALLY want to.

luna (luna.c), Sunday, 18 May 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i've never seen this but it sounds CLASSIC!

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Sunday, 18 May 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Fucking subversive genius, that's what it is.

maria b (maria b), Sunday, 18 May 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I need to see this film so bad I could plotz.

I have no idea what "plotz" means but I've been seeing a lot of Krusty The Klown on old Simpsons episodes. forgive me.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 18 May 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

that movie would be "roller boogie" starring linda blair
donate my 10 points to red cross

Nope. Sorry. Wrong Answer.
It is The Apple. Oh yes.
Oh, no. I've found something worse.

I'm Appalled no-one thought of this one:
http://www.allmovie.com/cg/avg.dll?p=avg&sql=A66209"

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 19 May 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Granted..."The Apple" is pretty heinous.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 19 May 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

plotz
(Yid.) explode, esp. with intense emotion

slutsky (slutsky), Monday, 19 May 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I am the proud owner of a paperback novelization of the Sgt. Pepper's movie. The bastard offspring of a bastard offspring!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 19 May 2003 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

How many pages long is it? 18?
There wasn't much plot thickness there to support a novelization. Unless the author added gratuitious sex scenes between Mr. Kite and Dr Maxwell Edison.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 19 May 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

It's padded with pictures.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 19 May 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

three pages of pohots and diagrams explaining the bluge in the pants of the Aerosmiths evil future supervillan band

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 19 May 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

um, that should read "bulge"
(even though, it is funnier as bluge.)

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 19 May 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...
Can't Stop Thinking About Can't Stop The Music

"LISTEN TO THE SOUND OF THE CIT-EEEEEEEEH!"

"I LOVE YOU TO DEATH.. I LOVE YOU TO DEATH... I LOVE YOU TO DEATH.. OH BAY-BEEEEEEEEEEEEH"

"MAGIC NIGHT!"

oh I could go on.

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 13 March 2004 07:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I was thinking about it yesterday as well thanks to a random thread through of The Hollywood Hall of Shame. Allan Carr, man, just insane.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 March 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

how come we've come this far with no mention of
'thank god it's friday' ?

piscesboy, Sunday, 14 March 2004 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I only remember the gatefold sleeve and pictures of the characters. It does seem to be the great lost disco movie from what I know of it, though -- not as realistic/gritty in its own way as Saturday Night Fever, not as insane/gone as either Can't Stop the Music or Xanadu.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 March 2004 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

My father, a master anecdotalist, used to entertain my brother and me when we were kids with his stories of catering movies as a teenager and young man in the late 70s and early 80s. "Can't Stop the Music" was one of those movies and some of the trivia and stories were repeated to me tonight. I'll post a few of them for your reading pleasure.

French producer Jacques Morali faced a security threat and eventually needed a personal bodyguard because he wouldn't stop, in broken English, propositioning crew members for sex. He apparently approached my father's catering truck and, after not answering the routine "chicken or steak" question, made an obscene sexual request which began "[french accent] well, actually, I would like...", which prompted his personal assistant to run over shouting "No, no, no!" and trying to defuse the situation before my dad and his-coworker could further understand what he was trying to say. The personal bodyguard was needed after Morali propositioned a teamster btw.

People would occasionally asks the question to the Village People of "so are you guys all gay?" which the VP would always respond with "Oh, no -- Felipe (the Indian) likes girls."

Though the wrap-party was at MGM and was one of those characteristically great Allan Carr parties, there was a San Fran concert scene that was notorious among the crew for its debauchery. My father caught the flu and didn't attend, but, apparently, it was something just short of a coke-fueled orgy. Keep in mind this is San Francisco in the summer of 1979 and they are filming the "YMCA scene" for the Allan Carr-produced 'Village People movie.'

During the YMCA scene, shot at the Glendale YMCA, Allan Carr had all the bodybuilders from the scene line up so he could pick his favorites out for later, undisclosed, purposes. "Things like that went on during the whole production..."

All the movies my dad worked were from the late 70s and early 80s they were almost all bombs. My favorite "It was the 1970s/early 80s, and I was young..." story involves a party that included Cheech and Chong, OJ and Nicole, and a member of the Eagles jamming with a midget on drums late into the night.

Cunga, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 06:35 (sixteen years ago)

Guh...what...you are making your dad write a book or something, I trust.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 06:41 (sixteen years ago)

The written word cannot do justice to my dad. When he's telling the story himself it is beyond great. You are listening to a combination of the Great American Tale and Homer Simpson recalling his lost youth.

What's funny is that my mom actually has my dad beat in attending great or memorable parties (and my mom may have attended a more epoch-defining 1970s homosexual party: a gay friend took her to the release party of Donna Summer's first album), but mom doesn't articulate the story or the scene very well, for the Donna Summer party she just said "I'd never seen so many homosexual men in the same room before."

Meanwhile, my dad makes working on "Under The Rainbow (1981)" sound like the death knell of the 70s, or like the cinematic equivalent of being in the studio with Fleetwood Mac during the making of Tusk. "One time everybody got so high on cocaine that lunch break was never deemed over. People were too out of their minds to return to work and so production just called it a day," or "some of the teamsters on the call sheet didn't actually exist. They were just put on there so accounting could explain away the fact that production money was being spent on coke."

Cunga, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 07:48 (sixteen years ago)

okay i both would love to see this movie, and own a copy of the poster:

http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/248570.1020.A.jpg

Baligh Hamdi, the "Big Pimpin'" guy (stevie), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 08:32 (sixteen years ago)

So I was watching the Tom Snyder Punk New Wave DVD set. I selected the PiL episode from June 1980, but elected to watch the entire episode, just for context.. Cuz it's great to see what kind of bizarre shit that's totally forgotten just pops up on these things.

And so Snyder's guest before Lydon and Levine is a small man who then gets introduced as Allan Karr who's peddling a little disco movie, and i nearly shitted myself. He kept on referring to how audiences LOVE fairy tales and vaudeville. He was really swell but really out of touch and uncomfortably trying to defuse something. You could sense he knew defeat was imminent.

I mean, just to be in the green room with John Lydon, Keith Levine, and Allan Carr.

Sock Puppet Pizza Delivers To The Forest (Sock Puppet Queso Con Concentrate), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 09:35 (sixteen years ago)

okay i both would love to see this movie

It ran on HBO constantly when we first got cable in 1982 or so, so I have it all too burned into my brain. (See also: The Cannonball Run, Battle Beyond the Stars.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:22 (sixteen years ago)

and i LOVE those other two movies, ned, this picture is definitely for me

Baligh Hamdi, the "Big Pimpin'" guy (stevie), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:25 (sixteen years ago)

Hahah then by all means set up the triple bill.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:38 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://i45.tinypic.com/n1dzit.jpg

Cunga, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:24 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

The book Party Animals about Allan Carr is pretty over the top, in the best possible way.

flintstones in my passway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 August 2010 21:57 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

Do the shake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyMOuIsDyXk

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 17:29 (fourteen years ago)

I love everything this movie chooses to be.

¯\(°_o)/¯ (Nicole), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

Can't director Nancy Walker at her Broadway best:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqFcwXjcC0

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 9 November 2013 02:22 (twelve years ago)

three years pass...

The Fabulous Allan Carr concentrates on Grease, Can't Stop the Music, and the Rob Lowe/Snow White Academy Awards broadcast, but he had a hand in other stuff I didn't know--getting Ann Margaret into Carnal Knowledge, the cannibalism Z-film Survive! (saw it a drive-in with my parents when it came out), promoting The Deer Hunter even. I honestly can't remember if I actually watched the Snow White debacle--I tuned out the Academy Awards for about a decade, and that one ('89 show) would have fallen just inside or outside that window. When Lowe and Snow White break into "Proud Mary" (described with perfect deadpan by Bruce Vilanch), wow. That leads to a pretty sad shunning of Carr for a few years, eventually righted with a successful Grease re-release.

The '70s sure were weird.

clemenza, Saturday, 3 June 2017 23:42 (eight years ago)

I see it's playing here June 18th -- I should definitely look into that!

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 June 2017 00:22 (eight years ago)

Can't Stop the Music keeps coming up for me lately--first as I was binging on the 80s All Over podcast, then when a caller on Tom Scharpling's Best Show pitched it as "a movie directed by cocaine," and once again now. I've never seen it available through any legitimate channels; should I just go ahead locate it another way?

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Sunday, 4 June 2017 01:16 (eight years ago)

Valerie Perrine has a couple of interview clips in the documentary--think she may have Parkinson's.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 June 2017 01:37 (eight years ago)

The doc sounds promising too. Directed by the guy who did the Divine and Tab Hunter ones (both of which I liked). I'll keep an eye out for it.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Sunday, 4 June 2017 01:41 (eight years ago)

Clemenza, per your description: surely La Cage Aux Folles (the Broadway musical version) is discussed in the film as well? (In Party Animals, the biography of Carr referred to upthread, that was the other main anchor of his life story, and credit to him for it.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 June 2017 13:57 (eight years ago)

Yes, that too--the redemption story between Can't Stop the Music (plus a couple of subsequent bombs) and Snow White.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 June 2017 15:09 (eight years ago)

The opening chapter of Party Animals, talking about how Brett Ratner, of all people, ended up buying Carr's mansion after he died and how the place was decorated/set up when purchased is truly amazing. (As are the immediately subsequent chapters talking about the parties there in Carr's 70s heyday, including Nureyev being had (if you will) on the lanai.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 June 2017 15:23 (eight years ago)

As for me, I do very much remember watching that Oscars ceremony live. That...was something.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 June 2017 15:24 (eight years ago)

Sounds like the book (which I didn't know about till I reopened this thread and saw your post) was the main source for the film; Brett Ratner turns up at the end, and the parties are discussed extensively.

clemenza, Sunday, 4 June 2017 15:37 (eight years ago)

Sounds about right! The book really is stellar -- bit of an odd structure, essentially begins in medias res, then backtracks some time later to his youth/upbringing, etc., but otherwise top notch.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 June 2017 15:48 (eight years ago)

Cant Stop The Music was one of my favorite movies when I was really little - Mum bought the soundtrack on vinyl & I listened to it all the time. I loved S-s-samantha, and the Milkshake song 😃

I watched it when it was on Amazon Prime a year or two ago...hooooooo boy. So much coke. SO much coke.

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 June 2017 15:56 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

Finally watched this. Pretty bad, but no dumber than, say Summer Stock or some other such 50s equivalent. I liked a couple of the musical numbers--the supergay "YMCA" sequence, of course, and "Samantha." Perrine is charming, Jenner is godawful, and Guttenberg gives a performance so wired he's practically cocaine in human form.

I still want to see that Allan Carr doc.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 19:11 (seven years ago)

ws Guttenberg in this movie tbh

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)

Also, how could you not call out the "Milkshake" "commercial" as a highlight?!

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 19:56 (seven years ago)

The Village Babies creeped me out too much.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)

Milkshake commercial is classic!!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 20:13 (seven years ago)

One random trivia bit I've heard repeatedly about this is that it plays on Australian TV every New Year's. Best disco movie of all is definitely Skatetown U.S.A.

Real Compton City G, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 21:07 (seven years ago)


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