They will never make a record again.

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Inspired by this thread: what musicians you think will never make any records again? No easy answers allowed, so no bands which have officially broken up or artists who have left music business altogether. I'll start with two easy ones: Kraftwerk and Derrick May.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 19 May 2003 07:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Johnny Cash.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Blur. Not after this one.

darren (darren), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Captain Beefheart

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah I almost said that, but no listing broke ups and retirees

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I read somewhere that the new Kraftwerk alb is '90% finished'. Still that final 10% might take 'em another ten years.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:26 (twenty-two years ago)

My Bloody Valentine

flowersdie (flowersdie), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Syd Barrett and Roky Erickson.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark Hollis (please let me be proved wrong).

hamish (hamish), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:41 (twenty-two years ago)

The Puddle.

hamish (hamish), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Ildjarn

Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I betcha Roky Erickson makes another record

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Neutral Milk Hotel

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Snapper.

hamish (hamish), Monday, 19 May 2003 08:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Should we distinguish between MAKE and RELEASE?

HoraceMann, Monday, 19 May 2003 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)

How do you make a record without releasing it? A record = round material object, right? Of course, you can make songs/tracks without releasing them.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 19 May 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Justine Frischmann.
Pete Townshend.
The Beach Boys.
ESG.
Sly Stone.
Fleetwood Mac.
Stevie Wonder.
Wu-Tang Clan.

I am really really hoping that Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 make another record, but I am not betting on it.

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 19 May 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

wolk otm probably

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 19 May 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)

No, I think the self-justifying/self-hating Lolita rock opera from Townshend is just a matter of time...

Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 19 May 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

he's still working on "Squeeze Box: The Musical"

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 19 May 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Wu-Tang Clan, though? I need clarification on this one.

Dave M. (rotten03), Monday, 19 May 2003 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Andy Prieboy

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 May 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Kraftwerk

stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 May 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, that was a future echo

stevem (blueski), Monday, 19 May 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

The La's and/or Lee Mavers

Aaron W (Aaron W), Monday, 19 May 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't agree with the Pete Townshend citation. Sure, he's in the media crosshairs at the moment, but I can see him bouncing back....and giving the world another needless album like Psychoderelic or something.

Gary Glitter, however, shall never record again.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 May 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Nirvana

Rahul Kamath (Rahul Kamath), Monday, 19 May 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Guns N Roses

Ferg (Ferg), Monday, 19 May 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, come on, I bet Fleetwood Mac will come out with another offering circa 2009.

Fivvy (Fivvy), Monday, 19 May 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Slick Rick and Doug E Fresh

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 19 May 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Warren Zevon? Luther Vandross? As sad as that may be to admit. (I mean, I'm sure they'll both *release* stuff; Zevon's even got an album recorded, I think. But I have a feeling the "making" is done.)

chuck, Monday, 19 May 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Cat Stevens?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 19 May 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Sisters of Mercy

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 May 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

James Brown

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 May 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Until now, everybody seems to have forgotten the most obvious answer:

Great White!

chuck, Tuesday, 20 May 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh dear.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Guns n Roses

ss, Tuesday, 20 May 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

c

ano ano (ano ano), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i have said that i thought the strokes would never make another record, but apparently they are recording. I still think it is likely they won't.

ano ano (ano ano), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

According to the latest NME, the Strokes scrapped the album that they had in the works, dumped the producer, and are heading back to sqaure one with the producer of their fist album. The world looks on in increasingly less-interested, muted bemusement.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

c -- ano ano

"c" as in the "copyright symbol", right?


t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

James Brown

He is still making records, it's just that no one's listening to 'em.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

scott walker

smudger (smudger), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Bobby Orlando and Cristina Monet.

Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

it maketh me violently happy that no wo-or-man has named Kate Bush on this thread

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Stereo MCs

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

candlebox.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Thursday, 22 May 2003 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...
Kraftwerk????

Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 16 January 2004 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Colin's first post STINGS.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 16 January 2004 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex in NYC -
Why do you say Andy Prieboy? Just curious... I don't know much about him other than I used to see his "White Trash Wins Lotto" shows at Largo in Los Angeles 4 or 5 years ago and they were a lot of fun. I had heard some rumors about a bitter split with much of the cast/venue, but I never heard the whole story...

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Friday, 16 January 2004 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Stones did a predictably terrible album two years after the thread started, an albums-worth of unfinished Exile songs for an anniversary re-release, and some new songs I will never hear for a best-of 2 or 3 years ago.

If Keef's new album sells any copies or concert tickets, Jagger will probably rush a new Stones album out by June next year on the fumes of jealousy.

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Saturday, 26 September 2015 22:25 (ten years ago)

This is an interesting thread question. Like which bands have enough integrity not to reunite for a certain amount of money like say a million dollars. None i'd say. None which could need the money. And most musicians are notoriously short of cash.
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― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, September 26, 2015 5:51 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Smiths are probably the big one that are known for being offered big sums and never accepting it, right?

Chad Clark has said that he turned down a festival offer to reunite Smart Went Crazy, probably wasn't a million but it was a large amount of money for them

some dude, Saturday, 26 September 2015 23:16 (ten years ago)

Among bands that actually could reunite (no dead or disabled members), The Smiths and ABBA are probably the biggies in that class.

As late as the early 2000s, Dave Clark was turning down huge sums for a Dave Clark Five reunion, a ship that's presumably since sailed as a couple of the original guys are now dead (including singer Mike Smith). Aside from The Beatles, they were like the one big British Invasion band not to do a reunion and/or slog on out to the oldies circuit.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 27 September 2015 00:38 (ten years ago)

ABBA turned down a billion dollars to reunite.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 27 September 2015 01:25 (ten years ago)

Lewis Taylor

Bloody Snail, Sunday, 27 September 2015 07:39 (ten years ago)

As late as the early 2000s, Dave Clark was turning down huge sums for a Dave Clark Five reunion, a ship that's presumably since sailed as a couple of the original guys are now dead (including singer Mike Smith). Aside from The Beatles, they were like the one big British Invasion band not to do a reunion and/or slog on out to the oldies circuit.

I've heard that Dave Clark is notorious for holding out for unrealistic money and never receiving it. It's the main reason why the DC5 stuff never stayed in print or got properly reissued, which resulted in their gradual disappearance from the radio -- oldies stations can't keep playing the same decades-old copy of "Glad All Over" -- which resulted in their current audience being vastly smaller than it would've otherwise been.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 27 September 2015 14:39 (ten years ago)

more on that here

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harold-bronson/the-dave-clark-five-dave-_b_5091519.html

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 27 September 2015 14:51 (ten years ago)

I cant see The Jam or The Smiths reforming

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 27 September 2015 15:00 (ten years ago)

in pretty much every interview I read with Tina Weymouth or Chris Frantz they make clear that they and Jerry Harrison would be keen to do a Talking Heads reunion but David Byrne is pretty dead set against, so Talking Heads I guess? Maybe a similar situation to The Jam, where one member is successful enough to not feel the need get the band back together (as well as fractious personal relationships in the case of Talking Heads)

soref, Sunday, 27 September 2015 15:52 (ten years ago)

also, while I was looking up interviews to see what the up to date situation was with these guys I discovered that Maxim gave Chris Frantz his own personal ws column, hadn't seen this before:

http://www.maxim.com/women/article/15-beautiful-women-chosen-drummer-talking-heads

soref, Sunday, 27 September 2015 15:54 (ten years ago)

Aside from The Beatles, they were like the one big British Invasion band not to do a reunion and/or slog on out to the oldies circuit.

― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, September 27, 2015 12:38 AM (21 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait, are people forgetting that 'Free As A Bird' and 'Real Love' existed?

Turrican, Sunday, 27 September 2015 22:02 (ten years ago)

Stones did a predictably terrible album two years after the thread started,

Wrong.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 September 2015 22:04 (ten years ago)

I cant see The Jam or The Smiths reforming

― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:00 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, I can't see The Jam ever reforming. As much as I like The Jam, I see this as a good thing - I think Weller would struggle to sing many of those songs now, his voice has changed way too much.

Turrican, Sunday, 27 September 2015 22:11 (ten years ago)

Aside from The Beatles, they were like the one big British Invasion band not to do a reunion and/or slog on out to the oldies circuit.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, September 27, 2015 12:38 AM (21 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait, are people forgetting that 'Free As A Bird' and 'Real Love' existed?

― Turrican, Sunday, September 27, 2015 6:02 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh come on those so don't count

flappy bird, Sunday, 27 September 2015 22:22 (ten years ago)

morrissey, if he really needed the cash,might reform the smiths with marr but not the other 2 just to spite them I guess.

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 27 September 2015 22:27 (ten years ago)

beatles reunion was the result of harrison wanting to cash in among other things so decidedly counts imo

balls, Sunday, 27 September 2015 22:38 (ten years ago)

wasnt he in debt?

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 27 September 2015 22:44 (ten years ago)

He had his mind set on it

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Sunday, 27 September 2015 22:48 (ten years ago)

beatles reunion was the result of harrison wanting to cash in among other things so decidedly counts imo

― balls, Sunday, September 27, 2015 6:38 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but Lennon was dead - they could never make another record again. all original members need to be alive. so 'cut me some slack' doesn't count as a nirvana reunion

flappy bird, Sunday, 27 September 2015 22:59 (ten years ago)

I've always hoped that if Morrissey and Johnny Marr ever play together again, without Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce, they go out as "Morrissey and Marr", a la Page and Plant. But yeah, I imagine any reunion would only happen if the Mozzer were in serious financial straits, in which case the value of the Smiths name would probably preclude any more modest billing.

JRN, Sunday, 27 September 2015 23:01 (ten years ago)

Supposedly, Harrison only agreed to participate in the Anthology dealie because his film company had gone under (and had debts to be paid off), and it turned out that his business manger had been cooking the books for years.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 27 September 2015 23:05 (ten years ago)

I understand that one of the bigger festivals has been steadily raising the $$$ for a Spacemen 3 reunion, but it isn't going to happen.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 27 September 2015 23:17 (ten years ago)

I should have clarified by saying "Reunion Tour" or something, but honestly I kinda forgot about those Anthology songs. So the DC5 STAND ALONE.

Off-topic, but I thought it was odd in that HuffPo article that Bronson claimed radio stopped playing their hits. In Houston anyway, all of those singles he cited were in regular oldies rotation for pretty much as long as we had a proper oldies station (so, until the mid-2000s). Not figuring in that 2-disc set (which really should have been released alongside a 15 or so track 'Singles' collection), I always figured this was down to stations be serviced with promo discs with the songs. The same reasoning could possibly explain how some Cameo-Parkway tracks like "The Twist" and "96 Tears" could be heard on the radio, but not be purchased unless you could find vinyl.

Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 27 September 2015 23:25 (ten years ago)

Wait, are people forgetting that 'Free As A Bird' and 'Real Love' existed?

― Turrican, Sunday, September 27, 2015 6:02 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh come on those so don't count

― flappy bird, Sunday, September 27, 2015 10:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Of course they do.

beatles reunion was the result of harrison wanting to cash in among other things so decidedly counts imo

― balls, Sunday, September 27, 2015 6:38 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but Lennon was dead - they could never make another record again. all original members need to be alive. so 'cut me some slack' doesn't count as a nirvana reunion

― flappy bird, Sunday, September 27, 2015 10:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

All four original members of The Beatles are on 'Free As A Bird' and 'Real Love', which were primarily written by Lennon and were released as Beatle tracks. Kurt Cobain had nothing to do with 'Cut Me Some Slack', so it's not the same thing. Besides, you're conveniently ignoring the differences in which both bands functioned.

Turrican, Monday, 28 September 2015 00:43 (ten years ago)

Yeah, I can't see The Jam ever reforming. As much as I like The Jam, I see this as a good thing - I think Weller would struggle to sing many of those songs now, his voice has changed way too much.

I think it would reinvigorate the material or reinvigorate the players for them to try to figure out how to approach it in middle age, but that's just me.

Exit, pursued by Yogi Berra (WilliamC), Monday, 28 September 2015 01:24 (ten years ago)

Does Shaun really say in that Guardian article that the Mondays hadn't written a song since '92? What was Uncle Dysfunktional then??

frogbs, Monday, 28 September 2015 02:29 (ten years ago)

he probably means the original group.

new noise, Monday, 28 September 2015 02:34 (ten years ago)

Yeah, that was mentioned on that show

Mark G, Monday, 28 September 2015 06:38 (ten years ago)

hah, was just hoping that Shaun forgot they made a comeback record. I didn't even know the lineup was different.

frogbs, Monday, 28 September 2015 13:17 (ten years ago)

also apparently Ryder does want to do another Mondays album in the next couple years so maybe scratch that one?

frogbs, Monday, 28 September 2015 13:20 (ten years ago)

Talk Talk

(Hell a new 'O'rang record would be a miracle, even)

Mark probably otm re Television :(

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Monday, 28 September 2015 14:52 (ten years ago)

Crass

sleeve, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 00:22 (ten years ago)

Beatles don't count - or you'd have to count every band where there's just ONE holdout keeping it from ever happening, since, like, they could get murdered and the others could dub over some of their demos without the deceased's knowledge or consent. it was more of a beatle reunion than anyone ever seriously expected, but it's something different from this thread.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 04:37 (ten years ago)

Yeah, this was meant to be "Bands that are still going, that won't be making any more new recs"

Nostalgia acts (like Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders) count, bands that are gorn (e,g. Crass) do not.

Mark G, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 06:41 (ten years ago)

grimes

hunangarage, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 06:45 (ten years ago)

Blue Oyster Cult

beamish13, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 07:00 (ten years ago)

Yellow Magic Orchestra :(

frogbs, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 13:14 (ten years ago)

Porcupine Tree have never officially disbanded but Steven Wilson seems more interested in his solo career these days so I'm not convinced we'll see another PT record again.

In related news, King Crimson (including PT's drummer) have been debuting new material on their current tour but I'm not sure it portends a new KC record.

schlep and back trio (anagram), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 13:25 (ten years ago)

The Stone Roses. There was a lot of talk circa the reunion gigs in, what, 2011? But nothing has emerged since and I can't see it ever happening. I don't think there's been any official announcement. I imagine they each got to buy themselves a nice house out of the reunion. Sometimes, if I think about it, I get a little sad that we only ever got to hear Reni drum on like 40 songs or something. That's criminal.

Don't think The Verve ever officially announced a third (or is it fourth?) split? But who cares.

I suspect Fugazi never will but who knows.

After that little flurry of activity do we think Kate Bush is done now?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 13:32 (ten years ago)

After a comeback album, two more albums and actual honest to goodness live dates, I'd say Kate Bush is not done.

Jam guys have worked together, haven't they? Could imagine them reuniting for a benefit or something.

I'd say for bands with all members living or otherwise healthy, the Smiths and Husker Du are two likely nevers. Fugazi could be a maybe, but they've always said it's more a practical matter. They live in different places and would need to rehearse for like a year first to recapture what they had.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 13:37 (ten years ago)

Lungfish it seems it well and truly done, though I would love to be wrong

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 14:06 (ten years ago)

Jam guys have worked together, haven't they? Could imagine them reuniting for a benefit or something.

Foxton and Weller guested on each other solo records relatively recently (in 2010 -- first time they'd spoken to each other since 1982), and yeah, I could almost see some kind of low-key reunion situation happening. Oddly, Foxton and Buckler have since fallen out, Buckler having quit From The Jam.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 14:19 (ten years ago)

Are Madness done?

schlep and back trio (anagram), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:10 (ten years ago)

Buckler having quit From The Jam

From the From the Jam

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:23 (ten years ago)

Are Madness done?

Good question! Just checked Wikipedia, their last album was only three years ago but Chas Smash has left since then (I didn't know either of these things) and he wrote about a third of it. I wouldn't rule it out I guess.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:59 (ten years ago)

Bedders and Chrissy Boy have also taken breaks from Madness in the 21st Century and come back, and that last album was kinda their best*? I'd give them another decade before counting them out.

*album qua album

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 16:06 (ten years ago)

At the Drive-In is another definite no.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 16:07 (ten years ago)

Foxton and Weller guested on each other solo records relatively recently (in 2010 -- first time they'd spoken to each other since 1982), and yeah, I could almost see some kind of low-key reunion situation happening. Oddly, Foxton and Buckler have since fallen out, Buckler having quit From The Jam.

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There's bad blood between Weller and Buckler, apparently. From the sounds of it, Weller still hasn't forgiven Buckler for comments he made regarding some of the early Style Council material to his face when Weller played some tracks to him, and his attitude in the studio regarding the songs from The Gift near the end of The Jam. Buckler quit From The Jam around the time Foxton and Weller buried the hatchet. I personally can see a Jam reunion and I hope to god it never happens.

Turrican, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 16:15 (ten years ago)

*can't see a Jam reunion, rather.

Turrican, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 16:15 (ten years ago)

Interesting, didn't know that about Buckler and Weller.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 17:03 (ten years ago)


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