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Anyone hear the new Pernice Brothers record that just came out? I saw a review on AMG and the author was sort of gushing. A lot. Just curious if anyone else thought it was that good.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=A00xsa9ygw230

Milian Tiles, Friday, 23 May 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I bought it earlier this week - it is good, need to listen to it some more to really have a strong opinion. it is of course very lush sounding and so far track 5 is my favorite

carol, Friday, 23 May 2003 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm prone to gush about it too. perfect sad/sweet pop with some lush touches. pernice's songwriting has never been better, letting some sun shine through the customary sadsack stuff. my favorite pernice record and one of my faves of the year.

nf

notfazed (notfazed), Friday, 23 May 2003 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, listened to it some more - song writing is exceptionally good once again but I hate that you cant really read the words to the songs because of the way the liner notes are done.

carol, Sunday, 25 May 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

...you cant really read the words to the songs because of the way the liner notes are done.

If you send Mr. Pernice a box of tissues, I'm sure he'll sensitively cry into them in falsetto and then write all the lyrics down on them for you and send them back to you. With a nice string bed.

I kinda like Pernice Bros but liner note lyrics molest my inner child.

Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 03:29 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
Discover a lovelier you has leaked. I like it...the first track "There Goes The Sun" is wonderful.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 6 May 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

o man i guess iwant this

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 6 May 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

you do!

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 6 May 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

I want it too(I think).

steve-k, Friday, 6 May 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

you do too! when you hear the first track....you'll be happy.

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

GET MY NEW CD. ARRRRRRRRRR.
http://www.billions.com/artists/pernice/images/photo2.jpg

Chris 'The Nuts' V (Chris V), Friday, 6 May 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

he's one of the dullest artists to write nice melodies...I mean, his songwriting skill is apparent, but there's something about his music that just falls flat

Space Is the Place (Space Is the Place), Friday, 6 May 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

It's pleasant, but thin.

Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Everytime there's a new Pernice record, I listen to it constantly for a week or two and then file it away to forget about until there's a new Pernice record again.

Just got this one today, so we'll see how long my fascination lasts. The production, however, is very mid-'80s England though. That could be a definite check in the "plus" column.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Did anyone get the live album? Is it worth owning?

Jonathan (Jonathan), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

It's alright. If you've never heard their version of the Pretenders' "Talk of the Town," you should hunt it down.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Cool, thanks.

Jonathan (Jonathan), Friday, 6 May 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

Is it out on p2p? Would love to hear something from it, went to the solo show last week at the Mercury Lounge and liked what I heard.

erv (Abe Froman), Friday, 6 May 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

Found it on slsk today.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 6 May 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

I'll check it out, thanks. btw, speaking of covers, Joe did an excellent cover of a Zombies song last week, but can't for the life of me remember the name. was anyone else there?

erv (Abe Froman), Saturday, 7 May 2005 00:38 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Picked this up at lunch today and I'm listening to it now. 'There Goes The Sun' is totally dreamy. Bits of the Cure and New Order pop up throughout the album. So far, better than 'Yours, Mine and Ours.'

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

I just downloaded this off emusic (wow, immediate release). It's pretty as all hell on one listen. I'll be listening to this a lot for the next couple days.

Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

eight years pass...

had heard about this, but forgot. new scud mtn boys record in july!
http://www.scudmountainboys.com/do-you-love-the-sun.html
samples sound like you'd expect.

tylerw, Monday, 1 July 2013 15:54 (twelve years ago)

just listened to yours mine and ours for the first time in a while over the weekend - pretty great record. haven't been in love with the last few things pernice has done, but he did have quite a winning streak going there for a while.

tylerw, Monday, 1 July 2013 16:03 (twelve years ago)

Yes to "Yours Mine Ours" as a great record

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:16 (twelve years ago)

It still kills me that Sherwin-Williams used "Weakest Shade of Blue" in a commercial.

This amigurumi Jamaican octopus is ready to chill with you (Phil D.), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:55 (twelve years ago)

ha

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 17:58 (twelve years ago)

haha forgot about that. i saw lambchop and the pernice bros. at some point, heavy sherwin williams content (see "new cobweb summer").

tylerw, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 18:07 (twelve years ago)

i didn't now about paint commercial, lol. YMO is so good, it's the pernice album i usually go back to.

a hand, palming an ilx face forever (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 18:22 (twelve years ago)

world won't end and overcome by happiness are pretty classic, too, imo. and the Chappaquiddick Skyline rec is killer as well.

tylerw, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 18:25 (twelve years ago)

Second album is my fave.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)

guess there is also this which i also heard about and forgot:
The New Mendicants are Mike Belitsky, Norman Blake and Joe Pernice. This, their first recording, was produced by Norman (with help from Mike and Joe) in Toronto, where they all live now. This 6-song CD EP was put together so Norman and Joe would have something to sell on their January/February 2013 tour of Australia. (Mike wasn't actually in the band on its first day, when the touring plan was hatched and flights were purchased. He joined on the 7th day.) It contains 3 brand new songs, plus 2 instances of Joe and Norman covering themselves (tres postmodern) and one INXS cover (The Australian government requires musicians wishing to tour Australia release an INXS cover before they will issue the necessary work visas. But luckily, they had some good songs.)

http://www.pernicebrothers.com/store/product/?inc=product52.html

tylerw, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 18:31 (twelve years ago)

three weeks pass...

new scud record is pretty damn good, only a couple clunkers in there. might be my favorite pernice thing in quite a while. the bonus disc that came w/ pre-orders has three great outtakes from the mid 90s. he can be such a great melody writer -- title aside, i can imagine dionne warwick tackling "son of a bitch."

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 21:46 (twelve years ago)

The New Mendicants EP is quite good, worth picking up if you enjoy the man's work.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 23 July 2013 23:55 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

Did not realize the new Scuds record was out!

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 23 August 2013 00:30 (twelve years ago)

he can be such a great melody writer

^^^^
This

curmudgeon, Friday, 23 August 2013 05:35 (twelve years ago)

three years pass...

Overcome by Happiness>Massachusetts>>Big Tobacco>The World Won't End>Pine Box>Dance the Night Away>Chappaquiddick Skyline>Yours Mine and Ours>>Discover a Lovelier You>>>Live a Little>>Do You Love the Sun>>Into the Lime>>>Goodbye Killer>>>>It Feels So Good When I Stop

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 19 August 2017 17:11 (eight years ago)

DYLtS and Goodbye Killer have a few great songs each

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 19 August 2017 19:31 (eight years ago)

Yeah every album Pernice has touched included at least a few great moments. I was actually listening to Goodbye Killer today, which inspired me to post above.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 19 August 2017 23:15 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK30806GJsk

The section around 2:28 is perfection.

Website hasn't been updated since the 2015 Roger Lion release, but still hold out hope they put out another album on the same level as Overcome by Happiness or The World Won't End. I go back and forth between ObH, TWWE, and YM&O as my favorite PB release, though no real need to choose.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 4 March 2019 18:48 (seven years ago)

just saw on twitter that he's setting up a bandcamp page with all the pernice stuff and that there's a new LP in the works ...
my wife plays yours mine & ours around the house all the time, still sounds great.

tylerw, Monday, 4 March 2019 18:53 (seven years ago)

That's great news. Thanks for passing that on!

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 4 March 2019 19:10 (seven years ago)

We're currently migrating Ashmont Records catalog to @Bandcamp
New Pernice Brothers music on the way. Stay tuned.

— Joe Pernice (@JPernicious) February 25, 2019

tylerw, Monday, 4 March 2019 19:18 (seven years ago)

dumdumdum good to hear from 'them' :-)

Ludo, Monday, 4 March 2019 20:21 (seven years ago)

This is really just his hobby at this point isn’t it? I think I saw that he is a writer for a Canadian tv show or something like that.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 5 March 2019 01:58 (seven years ago)

I thought I read at one point that he'd recorded a Goodbye Killer followup but never bothered releasing it. Anyway his '98-'06 albums make up one of the great songwriting streaks in history, imo, Bandcamp will be a richer place.

geoffreyess, Sunday, 10 March 2019 07:10 (six years ago)

Yes.

He (correctly) grumbles about low Spotify pay rates in an earlier tweet

curmudgeon, Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:38 (six years ago)

five months pass...

New album Spread The Feeling out one month from today, it seems, plus a few shows announced.

Finished tour poster for upcoming Pernice Brothers shows. pic.twitter.com/muSsPNtb9q

— Joe Pernice (@JPernicious) August 9, 2019

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geoffreyess, Saturday, 10 August 2019 00:36 (six years ago)

yay!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 August 2019 00:41 (six years ago)

That’s good news. Hope they’ll add more gigs.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 10 August 2019 14:38 (six years ago)

three weeks pass...

new track from the album and bonus tracks up to stream now: https://pernicebrothers.bandcamp.com/album/spread-the-feeling

sktsh, Monday, 2 September 2019 11:53 (six years ago)

New track has their sound. It’s ok

curmudgeon, Monday, 2 September 2019 16:54 (six years ago)

Joe tweeted in response to a question about whether they had plans to put the new one on Apple Music- no streaming plans.

So maybe just Bandcamp for this

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 13:36 (six years ago)

Bought via Bandcamp. If the vinyl/download options don't work for you, he mentioned a limited amount of cds will be announced later on the mailing list. I'll rebuy it.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 17:17 (six years ago)

Well, I get that Spotify is not always good or worthwhile for audiences so more power to him for keeping it off the platform. But personally my audio set-up is such that if it's not on Spotify I'm most likely not going to hear it. I know it's *possible* to hear it but I basically manage all my music through my phone these days and everything is done through the Spotify app. I don't have a home stereo or even a home computer.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:57 (six years ago)

* artists, not audiences.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 20:58 (six years ago)

You could just hear it via the Bandcamp website on your phone, that's what I did.

And I was not that enthused, it's ok but maybe my time for Pernice Brothers love has simply passed.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:00 (six years ago)

(which is not to say I don't adore their records up until "Hello Killer")

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 21:00 (six years ago)

eight months pass...

On June 19, 2020 I will release a solo album. It’s called RICHARD. It’s basically me and a nylon string guitar I recorded in my basement bike shop during Covid lockdown. There are no world-altering songs of protest on it. There are no songs that poetically and compassionately describe the lives of our fellow citizens who have lived within a system braided with racism. I wish I could write that song. God, knows I have tried, but they always come up short. (Maybe the title song goes part of the way there. I don’t know.)

curmudgeon, Saturday, 6 June 2020 13:59 (five years ago)

awww. this sounds promising.

as great as seeing him/them live was (at their first show in a long time, I gather) Spread the Feeling didn't really hit me

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 6 June 2020 14:03 (five years ago)

Ooh, thanks for that. Speaking of a Pernice and a guitar, I watched The Half of It on Netflix and was surprised to learn from the credits that he wrote its talent show ballad. It's a whole new era of earnest YouTubers covering him.

Seems there might be an album of Barry Manilow covers at some point, too: https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/joe-pernice/joe-pernice-barely-manilow-series/

geoffreyess, Saturday, 6 June 2020 15:51 (five years ago)

nine months pass...

I will live stream a show from my bike shop on April 2, 2021 at 8 pm EST. It will be the first show by me hosted on Bandcamp. I have no idea about the logistics, nor does my partner Joyce…but she will. We’ll send another mailing list post asap with details about how to register to witness the gig

curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 March 2021 19:17 (four years ago)

I was underwhelmed by the Barry Manilow covers. I hope his livestream uses other material

curmudgeon, Monday, 22 March 2021 03:34 (four years ago)

two years pass...

PERFORMING THE Overcome by Happiness’s ALBUM IN ITS ENTIRETY:
THURSDAY, MAY 18TH, SOMERVILLE, MA
CRYSTAL BALLROOM

FRIDAY, MAY 19TH, NEW YORK, NY
RACKET

curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:05 (two years ago)

Ah would love to see that! Such a classic.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:07 (two years ago)

Yes. me too but can’t make it up there. Chickfactor zine editor just posted on FB she has an extra ticket for tonight!

curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:11 (two years ago)

No idea at all why this band did not take off.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:17 (two years ago)

xpost

I'm on the wrong side of the country, alas.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 18 May 2023 19:19 (two years ago)

Saw one clip on IG from tonight and they had a string section with them. Nice . Haven’t read it but NPR has a review of the re-release

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 May 2023 05:28 (two years ago)

five months pass...

Totally missed that the Pernice Brothers released an album four years ago, their first album in ... 10 years? Anyway, it's great. Of course it's great. I'm seeing Joe Pernice perform a solo living room show tonight so have been playing a bit of catchup, and really, it's *all* great. Or at the least very good. As Soto would say, sound/solid.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 November 2023 20:38 (two years ago)

Oh nice, I went to the Minneapolis show on Friday, it was lovely. I think well over half of what he played was new songs from upcoming projects, including the new Pernice Brothers album, finished and out next year. Lots to look forward to: what he called his first proper duet (recorded with Neko Case) and first soul song (recorded with a full string section), a song from a solo country album, a beautiful David Berman tribute. Great lines across all of those, and the rest, and so great to hear his voice in such a quiet room.

soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Sunday, 5 November 2023 23:56 (two years ago)

Yeah, he played a lot of those tonight. I guess he doesn't really tour much anymore? He said the last time he played Chicago was maybe 2006, Minneapolis was probably similar. His voice sounded incredible. I bought a poster, love that in a few days he is playing at Sean's Veterinary Practice in Pittsburgh.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 03:27 (two years ago)

Wish he would do a show in DC area

curmudgeon, Monday, 13 November 2023 02:49 (two years ago)

All of this is to say that he’d like to do more. And the timing is good, because we are all waiting for something that’s happening in the spring that we can’t officially tell you about even though you likely already know. Are you a middle-to-late middled aged person who always wanted to be a concert promoter but was thwarted when real life got in the way? Here’s your chance! These things work best if you have a social network of the non-computer variety. If this is something you would like to explore with us, you can fill out this little survey we put together:

(https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf6Bk2YMsCBkmxMG7C0D84cJ48Xj21ZlEe-7NbgDTwdV--McA/viewform)

and I will be in touch. That will help us figure out if there is a cluster of shows that might make sense.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 November 2023 18:19 (two years ago)

Thanks

curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 November 2023 21:37 (two years ago)

two months pass...

New song “Who Will You Believe “ now out and new album is coming. New song is folky .

https://pernicebrothers.bandcamp.com/album/who-will-you-believe

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 22:45 (two years ago)

Excellent. According to my notes he played seven of these in November, I really liked them all.

soup of magpies (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 23:29 (two years ago)

one month passes...

New song "I Don't think I Need That Anymore" with guest vocals from Neko Case is out . It's ok.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:02 (two years ago)

Sounds nice. Reminds me of late-era Nick Lowe. The other song/b-side is solid, too.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 01:18 (two years ago)

I think it's pretty great!

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 12:09 (two years ago)

I love it, but I’m more team Neko Case than Pernice Brothers.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 12:16 (two years ago)

tbh not familiar with Pernice, but great to hear Neko

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 15:27 (two years ago)

i grabbed that big Overcome By Happiness reissue recently — a pricey collection, but really nicely done. And some of the bonus stuff is very good. I haven't loved anything Joe's done in a little while (not that I've *hated* anything), but he really had an amazing late 90s / early 2000s run. even the side projects (chappaquidick skyline, big tobacco) are terrific.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 15:38 (two years ago)

Yep, Pernice late 90s , early 2000s run was great. Current offerings are not bad, but not at the level of the older stuff.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 17:28 (two years ago)

My personal Pernice / Scud Mountain Boys ranking:

1. Overcome by Happiness
2. Massachusetts
3. Big Tobacco
4. The Early Year
5. The World Won’t End
6. Yours Mine & Ours
7. Chappaquiddick Skyline
8. Live a Little
9. Discover a Lovelier You
10. Into the Lime (the New Mendicants)
11. Do You Love the Sun (Scuds reunion album)
12. Richard
13. Goodbye Killer
14. Spread the Feeling

1-5 inarguably classic
6-9 arguably classic
10-12 I’m a completist and these are worth the time
13-14 eh

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:17 (two years ago)

Agree with your #1, while #s 6 & 5 would be my 2 & 3 spots. “How to Live Alone” and “Baby in Two” are catalog highlights for me.

https://rogerlion.bandcamp.com/album/roger-lion Guessing this would slot in around 12?

https://joepernice.bandcamp.com/music - It could Be Magic and It Feels Good When I Stop would slot at the end for me.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:32 (two years ago)

Agree with your #1, while #s 6 & 5 would be my 2 & 3 spots. “How to Live Alone” and “Baby in Two” are catalog highlights for me.

https://rogerlion.bandcamp.com/album/roger-lion🕸 Guessing this would slot in around 12?

https://joepernice.bandcamp.com/music🕸 - It could Be Magic and It Feels Good When I Stop would slot at the end for me.


I forgot about It Feels so Good… but yeah that would be at the end. I didn’t know about Roger Lion or Could It Be Magic!

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:35 (two years ago)

My top 5 is also a reflection of when I was deepest into him - probably 98-01. Adored Mass/Overcome. Chappaquiddick and Big Tobacco were new releases at the peak of my fandom. By the time of The World Won’t End and the string of PB albums in the early 00s, I loved them but had five other albums I’d already worn out, so it was hard for me to fully rate them above the others although I know a lot of folks do.

At some point early on I went back to the Early Year and felt like those two albums were an otherworldly revelation, thanks in no small part to the other songwriter who feels like a lost genius! (Truthfully I’ve never been 100% certain of which guy was the other primary songwriter, but I don’t think anyone in that band went on to other things… did they?) Even his one song on Massachusetts is a highlight on an album full of highlights. Anyway, those albums have such a unique feel and are a perfect late night/lights low/drinking alone soundtrack.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:46 (two years ago)

thanks for the recommendations!

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 09:57 (two years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p8fglFPGHo

I like when the choir backing vocals come in on this new Pernice Brothers song “The Purple Rain” , but am not wowed by Joe’s folky acoustic guitar and vocals on this ( on first listen. Maybe it will grow on me)

curmudgeon, Thursday, 21 March 2024 14:28 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

After some activity in this thread for a bit, the album actually came out and generated zilch in terms of commentary here.

It’s… okay. Something about his voice has changed in his later years. On the 90s/00s albums his voice was so beautifully smooth. Something about his tone is just slightly grating now, especially when he goes for higher notes.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 8 April 2024 15:28 (one year ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp2Uenox4TM

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 February 2026 14:51 (one week ago)

Was obsessed with Crestfallen in the late 90s, which came on a free Vox CD. Somehow never listened to anything else!

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 22 February 2026 16:15 (one week ago)

Start with "Overcome By Happiness" and keep going, first 4 are all great.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 23 February 2026 00:33 (one week ago)


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