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Most of my friends like 50 Cent, Fabulous, Eminem, Jennifer Lopez, and a lot of other artists like that and I can't stand them. Do you have any friends or know any people who like bands or artists that you can't stand?

― Aja (aja), Monday, 26 May 2003 23:16 (twenty-two years ago)

The list of other people for me used to go on and on many years ago. Time has changed things. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 May 2003 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Aja, the question you should be asking yourself is this: Are people who rate/enjoy/champion/tolerate 50 Cent, Fabolous, Eminem and Jennifer Lopez REALLY worth hanging around? Clearly they've got low standards and are easily amused by low.com.denom shenanigans. Give'em the keys to the street, I say.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 26 May 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Or is your friend's bad taste justification for feeding them rat poison?

― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Monday, 26 May 2003 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

It sounds to me like your friends are normal people.

― Adam A. (Keiko), Monday, 26 May 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

It sounds like your friends are normal people.
I know! They think I'm weird because I like Foo Fighters, Nirvana, Queen, The Clash, and bands like that. The only peple I know that have the same intersts in music as I do are my teachers and my friends' parents. My teachers are 26 years old though. I don't even think all my friends' parents like rock.Why do people like hip hop and rap anyway? I just don't get it.
― Aja (aja), Monday, 26 May 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, because they're different from you?
― oops (Oops), Monday, 26 May 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Massive Attack. Or Passive Attack, as I prefer to call them.
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 26 May 2003 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

They're different yeah but how can you listen to one of their songs? I can't even listen to one with out yelling, " Is it over yet!"
When I listen to a Foo Fighters' song I yell, "No! It's almost over!"
Especially when I listen to "Everlong (acoustic)". I taped that one off the radio yesterday and heard it on the radio again 15 minutes ago. It's the 46 most popular song on the station I listen to in the past 15 years. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is #1.
― Aja (aja), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)

(aren't we all just waaaay biased here, right? ;-)
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

fuck italics
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

fuck
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

"Rock The Casbah" is on the radio right now!― Aja (aja), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)
I like hip hop and rap. I rate Eminem. Should I be shown the keys to the street too, eh?
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)
OH WHAT THE FUCK. THIS IS SOME KIND OF UBERHTML THAT CANNOT BE CLOSED OR SOMETHING?
― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)

STOP SWEARING ON MY THREAD!!
― Aja (aja), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

My new friend and I had an intense bonding moment upon discovering we both hate LIVE. Other bewilderingly popular bands that everyone swoons for while I scowl:
Counting Crows - The singer has the most irritating voice in the world, and I have no idea what it is people gain from their lyrics.
Lil' Kim - Her stick isn't awesome or funny, acting like a floozy isn't noteworthy. NB I've never heard her music, but I'm tired of hearing about her schitck.

Aja, you have pretty young teachers!
Do you like Queens of the Stona Age? They have the Grohl connection, but it seems like everyone does these days.

― Fivvy (Fivvy), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Aja, trying giving a listen to early Public Enemy. It'll probably show you better then anything else, as a rock fan, what hip hop has to offer. Keep an open mind.

― Davidallen@seanbaby.com, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 01:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you have any friends or know any people who like bands or artists that you can't stand?

I don't like a lot of what my good friends like, but as long as they're obsessed with music as well, that's the important thing. Gets kinda weird when you share an specific obsession with everybody you spend time with. Also makes record shopping together easier... no fighting over that copy of "London Weekend" you find together, and they point out stuff you like, extra pair of eyes.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

you found a copy of London Weekend? lucky.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)

No one likes it when they get their tastes in music, clothing or food bashed.

― Mad Jason, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I cannot, for the life of me, like the Smiths. And I've
tried, gosh how I've tried. The guitar work is great,
and the lyrics are so incredible (besides "Meat Is Murder,"
was that a joke or something?), but the singer does
NOTHING for me.

Re: Queens Of The Stone Age
I feel vaguely embarassed that this band is becoming so
popular. It would be fitting if they were getting worse
over time, so I could say "ha, you idiotic fools, you
missed out on their peak era!" but sadly, _Songs For
The Deaf_ is their best album.

― squirl plise (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 02:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The Flaming Lips. People in my demographic (30-something indie rock veterans, mostly) love them for some reason. I used to like them too, when I was in college and no one made the bizarre mistake of taking them seriously. Now I think they're unctuous and "cute" and kind of creepy, but lots of people I know go to their shows and claim to have transcendental experiences.

Oh, and Aja, Eminem rules. He's way better than the Foo Fighters. Really.

― JesseFox (JesseFox), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)

billy idol rulz david bowie pulz.

― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 07:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I like hip hop and rap. I rate Eminem. Should I be shown the keys to the street too, eh?

What good would showing them to you do?

Eminem's V A S T L Y overrated.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

is it better to have friends who like shit music or know dickheads who like what you like?

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it depends on how vehemently they espouse bad music. I have friends who, by my rigid, Talibanesque standards, listen to music that I wouldn't play at a dog, but they don't seem to care about the art form enough to begin with to bother seeking out stuff that is inarguably superior (and by that I don't mean solely stuff that I like). I just can't imagine that anyone who does take music seriously would waste their time on the likes of Jennifer Lopez. I mean, I don't like the blend of arguably latin-tinged, "street"-informed dance music/r&b to begin with, but I know there are artists who pull it off with more style and substance than she manages.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

well i've got a mate who likes steve vai...thats inarguably superior to j-Lo isn't it?

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

thats inarguably superior to j-Lo isn't it?

Well, Steve Vai played on a Public Image Ltd. record. The rancid cancer of culture that is La Lopez did not, so yes.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't "get" the Flaming Lips, The Smiths, The Pixies, or even Magnetic Fields (most of the time). I know I don't focus on lyrics like some people, but what should I be listening to with these acts? This is how I hear each of them:

The Flaming Lips - elaborate, interesting arrangements, interrupted by stupid squelching noises and airy-fairy breakdowns. The lyrics are insipid, fantasyland pap, with little emotional committment. Why should I care? (I quite like "Do You Realize?")

The Smiths - Sameish pop-rock that play-acts at emotion while jerking about. Like The Cure (who are good) without dynamics, and somehow even more melodramatic.

The Pixies - Um. Rock music with flourishes of great electric guitar, but mostly just samey and with a weaselly-voiced lead singer. The lyrics are immature, the melodies are things for whining, not singing, along to. (I like "Where is My Mind," though.)

The Magnetic Fields - Some of their stuff is wonderful ("Absolutely Cuckoo," "Book of Love"), but much of it sounds like Leonard Cohen wearing a party-hat - moping, emotionally disconnected words, over cheesy, pomo arrangements. There's little conviction - just wit, and thin-lipped whimsy.

I know I could learn to love any of these groups - I only recently learned to listen (and love) the Velvet Underground. I still can't understand those who promote Lou Reed as the pinnacle of songwriting, but the records still stand high on their own.

Looking over these criticisms, though, it looks like I'm party to a rockist (folkist?) viewpoint that values conviction/sincerity/emotion over reserved titters and self-consciousness. Not sure if this is a bad thing, though.

― Sean@tangmonkey (Sean M), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

why is it i always agree with the posts that seem to follow mine?

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

(for the record, I like: The Beatles, Nina Nastasia, R.E.M., 50 Cent, Radiohead, The Strokes, Songs:Ohia, Beck, Blackalicious, The Microphones, Arab Strap, Belle and Sebastian, Junior Senior...

― Sean@tangmonkey (Sean M), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)

There's little conviction - just wit, and thin-lipped whimsy.

i dunno. i have cried at "fear of trains" before.

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

but is that because of the music, or is the music just the trigger for certain memories/emotions?

― Sean@tangmonkey (Sean M), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

why is it i always agree with the posts that seem to follow mine?

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I just can't imagine that anyone who does take music seriously would waste their time on the likes of Jennifer Lopez.

C'mon Alex, you've hung around ILM for so long now, surely you can't still be thinking that way? Tons of ppl who quite clearly love music here who like Jennifer Lopez (not me, admitidely.)

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

tom waits & the pixies are about the only things i still HATE hate, i don't get all worked up about hating music so much any more now that i'm old & stuff but those are 2 things that still work on me, try it & see waht happens

― duane, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Yesterday, someone reminded me that it was the second straight Memorial Day in which I got drunk and ranted about how Bob Dylan is totally uninteresting and a waste of time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

ok
b-b-but...tom waits is grand!

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sorry, regardless of how long I've been slathering my big-headed opinions all over these boards, I still cannot fathom how anyone with half a brain would seriously defend Jennifer Lopez's music as being anyhing other than bog-standard....at BEST!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

o...jenny from the block as "extremely interesting artifact", would you go for that alex?

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

If you feel like smearing your ears with the sonic equivalent of otter bile and moose semen, that's your business, Gaz. Just don't ask me to partake in said messy, degrading experience.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

The friggin White Stripes.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)

you don't *like* j. lo, you like her writers, producers, and the equipment used to make her sound slightly less horrid. (i loved "jenny from the block" the first 1,000 times.)
i can't get next to belle and sebastian, or any emo whatsoever.

― praying mantis (praying mantis), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Godspeed. Mogwai. Sigur Ros. Tortoise. Autechre. *Anything* even vaguely post-rock -- I've tried to like it, I just can't. Ive even seen Mogwai live twice, having been informed by otherwise reliable sources that it would be a life-changing experience, and it just wasnt. I was even slightly bored.
I suggest, Aja, that you come to my school -- almost everyone there likes Queen, Nirvana and Foo Fighters, much to my bewilderment.

― Cathy Leech, Tuesday, 27 May 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

hehehehehe

― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like Queens of the Stone Age. The only song I'll listen to is "No One Know" and I'm just really only listening to the drumming anyway. I can't stand the singer's voice. I can't believe Dave went on tour with them! Why are they so popular?

Eminem is not better than Foo Fighters. Eminem is just really overrated. I don't know. Maybe I have more respect for bands, especially when the singer also plays an instument.

― Aja (aja), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

the voice is an instrument.

― di smith (lucylurex), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

the voice is an instrument.
Well yeah, but you know what I mean. When they play an instrument like a guitar or even bass it's a lot more fun to watch them preform.

― Aja (aja), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

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This thread = ilx

― PappaWheelie V, Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:43 (fifteen years ago)

ilx = ilx

― scott seward, Thursday, 27 May 2010 00:46 (fifteen years ago)

forgot to mention drums w/r/t the dan

― hobbes, Thursday, 27 May 2010 05:31 (fifteen years ago)

but anyway, it's healthy and nice to have a spot to air ones grievances.

― hobbes, Thursday, 27 May 2010 05:31 (fifteen years ago)

The Hold Steady

― drinkin a carton of peace juice (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 27 May 2010 05:59 (fifteen years ago)

lady gaga

― hobbes, Thursday, 27 May 2010 06:09 (fifteen years ago)

Pixies

― bug holocaust (sleeve), Thursday, 27 May 2010 06:10 (fifteen years ago)

The Mountain Goats (sorry John!).

― rennavate, Thursday, 27 May 2010 06:25 (fifteen years ago)

the clash

― kumar the bavarian, Thursday, 27 May 2010 06:30 (fifteen years ago)

Animal Collective

― anagram, Thursday, 27 May 2010 07:35 (fifteen years ago)

Radiohead

― Chonus, Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

Music

― CUSE EX MACHINA (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

People

― CUSE EX MACHINA (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

Stuff

― CUSE EX MACHINA (jjjusten), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:25 (fifteen years ago)

dude stuff's early stuff is pretty awesome, i'll ysi

― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

with ILX - I'm sorry, I still don't understand what elevates Taylor Swift to anything more than watered-down mainstream country-pop a la Shania Twain. Her music reminds me of watching endlessly unwelcome Aygo-by-Toyota Sunday morning TV shows with an incredible hangover.

― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:36 (fifteen years ago)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2135/1527468426_99ef12fde0.jpg?v=0

― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:37 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah seriously Taylor Swift. I can't hear what sets her apart either...

― Evan, Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

right?

and EVERYONE ELSE seems to dig her wtf?

― English: The Money Woman (history mayne), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

same with mogwai?

the hell is wrong with EVERYONE?

― English: The Money Woman (history mayne), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Mogwai, yeah, what was that all about?

― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:52 (fifteen years ago)

Yo La Tengo, what's the deal with everyone going crazy for them?

― The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Mogwai = quiet-quiet-quiet-LOUDLOUDLOUD-quiet

― emotionally abusive jowls (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

Rock bands with no vocals, just don't get that

― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

lol who has italicised the thread.

― No disre but maryanne hobbs is peng trust me (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

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― gypsies had no home, The Doors had no bass (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

haha

― No disre but maryanne hobbs is peng trust me (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

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― No disre but maryanne hobbs is peng trust me (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

oops

― No disre but maryanne hobbs is peng trust me (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

Mogwai = quiet-quiet-quiet-LOUDLOUDLOUD-quiet

― emotionally abusive jowls (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:54 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

it was cool when Kyuss did it and called it Apothecaries Weight...

― gypsies had no home, The Doors had no bass (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

if i did it, i can't remember how[/i]

― English: The Money Woman (history mayne), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

kim gordon

― kumar the bavarian, Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

Kim Gordon's great

― gypsies had no home, The Doors had no bass (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:01 (fifteen years ago)

at sounding like a constipated patti smith

― kumar the bavarian, Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

kim did more than 2 1/2 good albums though

― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

Ha! Talk about a transformation. I post that derogatory statement about Waits 3 years ago, and now I have virtually his entire catalog. I guess it takes a while to warm up to some things

Tom Waits

― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

Oh man, italic again!

― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

Testing something.

― The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

Italics making everything look like an ironic quote.

― Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

lol @ this thread

― Image: electrostimulation applied on a penis (HI DERE), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

(was really sad to fix that, it was a startlingly inept attempt at HTML)

― Image: electrostimulation applied on a penis (HI DERE), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

Is it working?[s]

― Vision Creation Mansun (NickB), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

kim did more than 2 1/2 good albums though

― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:04 (17 minutes ago)

^this...good call m@tt

― gypsies had no home, The Doors had no bass (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

Wild Beasts (that singing is so forced seemingly for style points alone)

― Evan, Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

Also, is there a reverse of this thread somewhere?

― Evan, Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

I'm from MN and I hate Soul Asylum and I'm mostly bored by the bands who's members ended up in Golden Smog.

― Ice Man Hearts Manly Interests, Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

who all likes Kim? everybody in ILM seems to hate on her, and it's not like throngs of fanatics are out screaming her name...

― gypsies had no home, The Doors had no bass (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:37 (fifteen years ago)

sorry i meant to say the fall :P i was listening to dirty when i wrote that... you are right about patti though

― kumar the bavarian, Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:58 (fifteen years ago)

uh Dirty is brilliant and The Fall are one of the greatest things to happen to the planet Earth, dude.

― EGGS ARE RAPE! YOU DISGUST ME! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:59 (fifteen years ago)

(but youre right...Fall-love is pretty universal around here)

― EGGS ARE RAPE! YOU DISGUST ME! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 27 May 2010 17:00 (fifteen years ago)

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