The Great Boyzzz

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Noting the Great Grrrls thread, I thought it only fair that male artists should get their own thread. So do you think there are any men who've broken out of their traditional roles in the music industry: the strutting bandana-clad 60s throwback, the 'sensitive' mummy's boy, the lad out on the piss with his mates.

C'mon, there must be a couple of male musicians out there you think are worthy of a mention... Peter Gabriel or Kurt Cobain perhaps, or maybe even a newer name like Badly Drawn Boy.

Jerry, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, from the sound of your particular archetypes to avoid, almost sounds like the best candidates would be the ones who said the least onstage or off (not saying that someone Mr. Badly Drawn is quiet -- far from it).

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jonathan Richman never fails to inspire...

Jason, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've always liked Steve Malkmus for the fact that he eludes a lot of those cliches. He's an interesting sort of man in rock.

Kerry Keane, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just wish Malkmus would inspire me more musically, though. I still think the best thing Pavement ever did was a homemade collection of B-side I put together thanks to my friend owning most of the singles.

The question itself is very interesting but I find it hard to answer, in a way. I almost want to name people like Robert Hampson and Justin Broadrick.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm starting to think Rufus Wainwright is worthy of some respect... a gay guy that doesn't hide it (ala Bob Mould) and doesn't make crappy dance music (all the rest), doesn't dwell on 'gender issues,' etc.

Andy, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The McDonald Bros. from Redd Kross always seemed a step ahead of everyone else on their scene. "We are not stupid boys but we want to do it wrong." Hair down to their asses and Cher worshop at the height of LA Hardcore, floppy hats and elephant bells and goofy feyness in the midst of all that G 'n R swagger. Well, they lost the plot a bit when they decided to make a stab at yer alternative rock in the mid-90s, but the songs were still great.

Arthur, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What does it mean exactly to be "out on the piss"?

Sean, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Redd Kross = gods. They shook their hair like few others. As for Rufus, it is true that he doesn't make crappy dance music. Alas, I feel the only thing he did was to remove the word 'dance' from that phrase.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

out on the piss = staggering from bar to bar inconveniencing yr betters

mark s, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ray Davies and Pete Townshend loom large in my world as people who made something that I could relate to as a teenage girl. As opposed to other rock groups whom I liked in *spite* of the fact that I couldn't relate.

Kerry, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Kraftwerk!

duane zarakov, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dave Davies once took an anourmous shit in a hotel sink to get back at them for something.

Mike Hanley, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

billy bragg - from platning bombs at last night of the proms to watching it.

Geoff, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, Kraftwerk, Eno and then and army of boys who don't care about practising their 6-string wank-chops and rather push/turn little buttons ;)

Omar, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Definitely Richard Hell.

nathalie, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Any male who breaks the stereotype of masculine behaviour = COLLABORATOR! Endangering other people's lives of absolute power and privilege, what's good about that?

dave q, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Stephen Merrit . As gay as he is Gay.

anthony, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Robert Fripp has always been my favourite surgeon cleverly masquerading as a musician, and, in a similar vein, there's John McLaughlin--the guitarist as God figure. I suppose they (and a few others--Efrim from gybe! comes to mind) make up a sub-archetype of "extremely serious and introverted rock musician," but that in itself is a reaction to the above cliches, and thus probably not really an archetype so much as a divergent philosophy.

matthew m, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Peter Hammill.

xoxo

Norman Fay, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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