Who are :zoviet*france:'s successors?

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Is anyone out there still blending industrial drone with world music? And if so, are they good at it?

Sommermute (Wintermute), Thursday, 29 May 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

sure you know this but Rapoon. Also, Muslimguaze (RIP).

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Steve Duda, Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Alio Die does a fair job. Jorge Reyes does some interesting work, as well.

I'm not really sure there's been anything on the level of :z*f: though since they broke up. Rapoon and Dead Voices On Air are some obvious post :z*f: projects to look at.

Xii (Xii), Thursday, 29 May 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Tam Quam Tabula Rasa

summerslastsound (summerslastsound), Thursday, 29 May 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
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Yawn (Wintermute), Saturday, 18 February 2006 21:37 (twenty years ago)

Not that this reflects the entirety of the Zoviet France aesthetic, but it nails one aspect of their sound nicely: Grouper has cornered the market on murky delay pedal haze for the next decade: proceed directly to "Way Their Crept" and feel the blissed out midrange audio-lint. Plus it's all based on some lovely female vocals as the source for the processing, and it's all done by one Liz Harris. Thumbs up!

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 18 February 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

that Grouper record is great, it's mostly about the sound of ten billion (ok, four) delay pedals all going at once but there are some good songs buried in there holding it all together.

tons of great drone records flying around these days, but can't think of any that precisely follow up zf. Tod Dockstader's Aerial #1 has lots of murkily global shortwave samples blending into one full on brain, but I wouldn't say he's 'following up' zf either

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 18 February 2006 23:08 (twenty years ago)

Way Their Crept needs some crazy, eerie edges though. It's too smooth in places

rizzx (Rizz), Saturday, 18 February 2006 23:30 (twenty years ago)

there's a self-titled cdr out on JYRK that has earlier versions of some things on the album, it's much noisier and rougher

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 18 February 2006 23:32 (twenty years ago)

it's not here http://www.jyrk.com/releases/index.html

rizzx (Rizz), Saturday, 18 February 2006 23:38 (twenty years ago)

I thought it was out -- saw it at Aquarius. She's roommates with a friend of mine, so I can't claim to be 100% impartial, though I'm usually harshest on music made by people I know.

milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 18 February 2006 23:55 (twenty years ago)

The Reformed Faction of Soviet France

Yawn (Wintermute), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)

That is some crazy news... check this part out:

Note: “The Reformed Faction of Soviet France” make music, release music, play concerts and have no intention nor interest in talking about Zoviet-France.
If interested journalists wish to write about Zoviet-France we politely request they contact Zoviet-France.

Bitter much?

Still very interested in hearing this.

sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 21:18 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
bitter? no.
better??
YES.

spybey, Thursday, 27 April 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

yes!

really looking forward to the new record

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 27 April 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

awesome!

i tried to find the thread where Ally said, "Is there anyone who DOESN'T like zoviet france??" but i can't find it now :(

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 27 April 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

i tried to find the thread where Ally said, "Is there anyone who DOESN'T like zoviet france??" but i can't find it now :(

Another contender for the "universally liked ILX band?"

LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 27 April 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

and here i was about to say, DVOA...

Kuma, Thursday, 27 April 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Another contender for the "universally liked ILX band?"

Weird, yeah, maybe true. I like them, to a degree.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Thursday, 27 April 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still looking forward to hearing this, but I must respond to Mark Spybey up above (of the Reformed Faction, DVOA, Propeller, and others I'm forgetting) and say that I have found Ben Ponton's stuff as ZF over the last ten years to be vastly preferable to any Rapoon or DVOA releases in that time frame. I like the Propeller records as much as any ZF, but Mort Aux Vaches and Decriminalisataion are really up there in terms of quality. So I will buy this release, with enthusiasm, and play it on the radio, but remain a bit skeptical that it is "better".

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

Some of those Rapoon albums are great, never heard DVOA. In any case, I think it's cool they've reformed as the more recent one-man Zoviet stuff has been weak, Digilogue just sounded lazy

here's the other thread Tracey may have referring to: Zoviet France: Classic or Dud?

/me aaaaaaaaaa (eman), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

may have *been

/me aaaaaaaaaa (eman), Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

Often I prefer to listen to DVOA than z*f

S- (sgh), Friday, 28 April 2006 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

@eman: go listen to Shap
@sleeve: go listen to Sfumato
@mark spybey: stop googling your bands name and get back in the studio

fez, Friday, 28 April 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

ha

/me aaaaaaaaaa (eman), Friday, 28 April 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
googling my bands name?
sKeptical?
moi?
sceptical, possibly.

I never listen to my own music and can't abide much of what is touted by others in the thinking press..whatever that is. The Wire was an excellent magazine about 13 years ago, when it was a genuinely eclectic mish mash of musical genres. Now you have flavour of the month asswipe electronica half-wits, those guys who have just discovered the faust tapes for the first time and feel like they have made an archaeological find. I fell out of this space years ago when I found out that most if not all of the experimental records (or indeed bands) touted by the so called thinking press are only touted because they pay for advertising space. Old trick. Shite.
I buy TONS of music, new and old but wouldn't dream of wasting my money on some architect who seeks to win phoney prizes with phoney academic institutions for making records that sound like exploding cement mixers.

Spare me from the misery of another record by boring intellectual half-wits, baseball headed men, mobile telephone wielding arts council lackeys, loveys, doveys, southern bastard art grants, norman foster designed concert building types, ex-flour mills full of boring norwegians (with apologies to all non-boring norwegians) and people who sleep in darkened bedrooms listening to other peoples music and commenting on what they do or don't like.
...knitting circle.



markspybey, Sunday, 14 May 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

Are you in Zoviet France?

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 15 May 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

Or I guess a better question would be, what is your band's name?

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 15 May 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago)

Tod Dockstader's Aerial #1 has lots of murkily global shortwave samples blending into one full on brain, but I wouldn't say he's 'following up' zf either

-- milton parker (milton.parke...), February 18th, 2006 6:08 PM. (Jon L)

I thought of Z-F too when I heard this

Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Monday, 15 May 2006 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

Are you in Zoviet France?

-- Rockist_Scientist (Al__suca...), May 14th, 2006 9:14 PM. (RSLaRue)

He is. or was(?)

Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Monday, 15 May 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

is it me, or does spybey's post read like marissa marchant?

cdwill (cdwill), Monday, 15 May 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

no, i thought it was funny. but then I'm always up for Wire-bashing.

Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Monday, 15 May 2006 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

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x, Monday, 15 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

I fell out of this space years ago when I found out that most if not all of the experimental records (or indeed bands) touted by the so called thinking press are only touted because they pay for advertising space. Old trick. Shite.

Duh. BUT-- you surely can't believe that all of the records or bands touted by the thinking press are crap. The Wire is quite full of shit most of the time, but what about the lesser-known press? Foxy Digitalis? Blastitude? Musicyourmindwillloveyou? All non-print, of course, but if we're talking about experimental music here, these are among the real places to go.

I just think it's sort of silly to dismiss all good press on experimental groups as resulting from adverts-- depends on the press, the group, and the amount of advertising saturation.

Finally, I miss zoviet*france, and can't think of many other groups (other'n Rapoon) that can take their place. (Though the drone of Hive Mind and Double Leopards fills my appetite for newer stuff).

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

I was in Zoviet-France am in the Reformed Faction, with Robin Storey and Andy Eardley, both ex-ZF.
I've released the odd cd, been in the odd band, collaborated with the odd musician.

There is a difference between the way musicians view the 'thinking press' and afficianados of 'interesting' music. A few years ago, a friend thought it was fun to invite me to a "Wire' bash at a swanky pub (more like a wine bar serving expensive Germanic beer) in a swanky part of London and I went. It was full of loveys and doveys and swanky ex-NME types and writers who braved the sun to leave their squalid, darkened nests. The 'flavour of the month' musicians were there in leagues, the feted, the fancied and the eminently dull. The architects, the mad inventors, the underwater violinists and the curved balls. What a miserable collection. Who is Marissa Merchant?

Frankly Mr.Shankly, it's a sickening wreck.

"I just think it's sort of silly to dismiss all good press on experimental groups as resulting from adverts-- depends on the press, the group, and the amount of advertising saturation."

If you pay good money for an advert, do you get a bad review?

mark spybey, Monday, 15 May 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

a lot of philip jeck sounds like zoviet w/o the primordial undertoning; jeck is 'cleaner'

Andrew Culler (andrewc), Monday, 15 May 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

mmm. I quite like Philip Jeck... very fuzzy midtone delay pedal action on old vinyl...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 15 May 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
A few years ago, a friend thought it was fun to invite me to a "Wire' bash at a swanky pub (more like a wine bar serving expensive Germanic beer) in a swanky part of London and I went. It was full of loveys and doveys and swanky ex-NME types and writers who braved the sun to leave their squalid, darkened nests. The 'flavour of the month' musicians were there in leagues, the feted, the fancied and the eminently dull. The architects, the mad inventors, the underwater violinists and the curved balls. What a miserable collection. Who is Marissa Merchant?

this is one of my favorite ilm posts

[URL]Internet casino gambling online[/URL] (eman), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

From what I've seen, plenty of "acts" with adverts in the magazine do, indeed, get bad reviews.

What I want to know is - how do groups like Wolf Eyes get themselves on the cross-continental art circuit that many acts in WIRE seem to be on? So many of those tiny art/noise/harsh groups travel so very much - does everyone start out rich?

Seriously, does anyone know? The cost of all that air-hopping has got to be prohibitive, where is all the money coming from?

Go ahead, funny/cruel answers welcome (and, of course, expected), but if anyone really has the truth, post that too.

matt the queeg (veal), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=HRm8rF2JXBk

Formerly known as The Reformed Faction of Soviet France, Robert Storey and Mark Spybey (as Andy Eardley is now not part of the group anymore) graced Berlin with their presence and performance.

oh ffs!!!

Python... No Bite :B (flezaffe), Saturday, 16 September 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

i didn't know he was in download
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqelKakpZSQ

am0n, Thursday, 13 March 2008 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

The dronier moments of Animal Collective come pretty close.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 13 March 2008 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

but no cigar

am0n, Thursday, 13 March 2008 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

still there, spybey?

am0n, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 20:27 (fifteen years ago)

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnDZDYT8Ouk

☝ (am0n), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:56 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX5MvbJQhEA

☝ (am0n), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:59 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

am0n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 19:08 (twelve years ago)

three years pass...

Predecessors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnRLLJgeQTM

Wes Brodicus, Saturday, 19 November 2016 00:39 (nine years ago)

hahaha I had forgotten about my exchange with Mr. Spybey here

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 05:11 (nine years ago)

There is a difference between the way musicians view the 'thinking press' and afficianados of 'interesting' music. A few years ago, a friend thought it was fun to invite me to a "Wire' bash at a swanky pub (more like a wine bar serving expensive Germanic beer) in a swanky part of London and I went. It was full of loveys and doveys and swanky ex-NME types and writers who braved the sun to leave their squalid, darkened nests. The 'flavour of the month' musicians were there in leagues, the feted, the fancied and the eminently dull. The architects, the mad inventors, the underwater violinists and the curved balls. What a miserable collection. Who is Marissa Merchant?

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 19 November 2016 11:08 (nine years ago)


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