Voice of the Beehive

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My mom just sent me a bunch of cassettes from my highschool days. "Let it Bee", in my handwriting, was the first thing to get played. Everything floods back. Goth girls, Jennifer Tyler, seeing punk at The Sicilian and China King, drunk on wine coolers, groping in the back seat. But "Let it Bee" was more about the next day, Sunday, after church and Taco Bell, parents busy with weekend projects, Tracer in room on floor, Radio Shack tape recorder, church shoes still on, thinking, wondering.

Who were they? Where have they gone?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Modern Hi-Tech Interweb is a wonderful thing:

http://www.geocities.com/vot bpage/

They did "Don't Call Me Baby," right?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But I want your answers. Were they part of a "scene"/what groops would you ally them with?

Is Dollshouse as sublime?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I linked Voice of the Beehive with All About Eve and The Primitives, but that's mainly because they all released first albums which I bought around the same time and all had female singers.

I'm drifting in the direction of thinking VOTB were actually no good.

The Dirty Vicar, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

U can prolly tell VOTB is one of those bands I have ZERO critical perspective on, entangled as it is with my inchoate dreams and boredoms.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i was hoping this was related to the cult of the new somehow.

ethan, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I thought it would be about some kind of cool new drone music I'd never heard of before. Like Autechre doing comissions for the droneon list.

Josh, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"There are monsters, there are angels ... THERE IS SUGAR! AND THERE IS SALT!" (?)

Still haunts me years after I last heard it.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

For some reason, i can still recall the lyrics to 'I say nothing' - it was one of those catchy songs they had in heavy rotation at the local college station at the time, i remember. Guess this built in my natural tolerance for 'twee.

Jason, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Lovely singers, California girls, kinda Mama Cass-ish but without the brassy, belting overtones. Sort of like Claudia Gonson. Don't remember much except the songs "I Say Nothing" and "It's Just a City," which were great. Wasn't somebody in Madness a part of the group? Whose the guy with the dorky plaits?

Arthur, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

> "There are monsters, there are angels ... THERE IS SUGAR! AND THERE IS SALT!" (?)

That song was done by VOTB? That one was on pretty heavy rotation on local alternative/college radio stations in my undergrad neck of the woods.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes, that was them! I quite like it, actually.

Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You could just about group them with Primitives / Darling Buds / T Vamp - historically, at least. I have an old MM interview in which they tour with That Petroleum Motion (...).

But what I want to know is, where did all those goth girls called things like 'Jennifer Tyler' go, why did they never come to *my* house, and for that matter, are any of them still knocking about? I think Tracer Hand is just using this board to Show Off. And should be banned, and stuff.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Whatever could have given you that idea? :)

(but: I never groped Jennifer Tyler, mainly because she was already "married" to Herbie Piercy (they each wore a beer can pop-top as rings, to prove it).)

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Presumably That Petrol Emotion, Reynard: apologies if your tongue is in your cheek.

Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

RC: yes. The two bands toured the US together in early 89 and the MM went with them. TPE were headlining, VOTB supporting. Tracey (whatever her name was) and TPE's Steve Mack were an item. There was a funny quotation in the interview where some Yank who'd misheard their introduction ("Steve's in TPE and Tracey here's in VOTB") said something like "Steve's in That Petroleum Motion and Tracey hears in voices..."

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
Revive! I just picked up Let It Bee for five bucks used at the Easy Street in lower Queen Anne and it's GRATE! Hooray pre-shoegaze/grunge-era UK guitar pop! Or at least the good stuff.

First heard 'em when Keith Harris, who posts here sometimes, put 'em on a tape we made together--"I Say Nothing" is a pretty great way to open side two. That was shortly before I moved to Seattle for the second time (my being here now is my third time); I was making tapes w/a few friends for driving-out purposes (I was the passenger while my friends Nate and Anne drove) and during the roadtrip I would pop them into the deck. When side two of Keith + me came up Anne freaked out: "I haven't heard this in years! This was my favorite tape in ninth grade!" etc. So I have pretty good memories of it, too, albeit sort of secondhand ones.

I saw from www.voiceofthebeehive.com that VOTB are reuniting for December gigs! Tracer, you must attend!

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 23 June 2003 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

nb: those gigs are in London

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 23 June 2003 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

after reading Bad Wisdom i've never seen VOTB in quite the same light again..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 23 June 2003 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

what does it say about them?

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 23 June 2003 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)

it's essentially fiction, but there's an incredibly filthy section (among all the other incredibly filthy sections) featuring Tracy Beehive and 'Gimpo'.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 23 June 2003 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

i bought 'let it bee' back when i couldn't afford more than one album every two or three weeks, and i had so much time to listen to them... i knew every word and every chord by heart, i lurrrv that album! i remember jumping up and down the room with my friends to 'there's a barbarian in the back of my car' :-)

joan vich (joan vich), Monday, 23 June 2003 08:19 (twenty-two years ago)

The single after Monsters And Angels was a cover of I Think I Love You and it was really really SO great. Don't Call Me Baby was on side 2 of cassette 1 of Now 11 which my sister had and is one of my earliest pop-memories ever.

Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

"Wasn't somebody in Madness a part of the group?"

Woody the drummer (and briefly, very early on, Mark Bedford on bass).

Actually I think that's the only thing I know about Voice Of The Beehive!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

the blonde singer, can't remember her name also was romantically linked with the singer from that petrol emotion, who's name i have forgotten. steve something or other.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

steve mack?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...
This thread didn't seem to show up on the Search.

I have never really understood the Search.

Probably I am 'misusing' it.

the beefox, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Pinefox, how salacious, to 'misuse' a search.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...
I once saw Voice of the Beehive live in concert. They weren't very good, except Woody. I also saw The Primitives. I heard The Primitives on the radio the other day, their big hit. It sounded quite good. I don't think I saw The Darling Buds, and I can't rememebr any of their songs. But I do remember the singer was called Andrea Darling Bud.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I missed the gigs :(

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Miller, I like all 3.

the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Beehive girls were what passed for quite old at the time.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

So, now they are older!

I love the Primitives. I have a soft spot - but where? - for the Darling Buds.

VotB I don't really know well, but that one song did thrill me that one time.

the bellefox, Wednesday, 11 August 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Voice of the Beehive were the first band I ever saw live, I think they were okay. Woody gurning like a bastard.

I think they were nearer to Fuzzbox than the Primitives, there was always a greasier rock element to their music. And yes, one of them was going out with Steve Mack.

I'm off to Soulseek, I never heard the album.

holojames (holojames), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

VotB will forever be linked with Mary's Danish for me. I took trip to LA with the fam in '89 and experienced KROQ for the first time. Both of these bands were all over that station at the time and this 14-year old boy found both of them to be the, ahem, "bee's knees". I never stuck with either bands past the first albums and now that I headed over to mp3.com to listen to sound clips of VotB's second album I am hearing frightening similarities to Wilson Philips(!).

ianinportland (ianinportland), Wednesday, 11 August 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...
Their '91 cover of 'I Think I love You' is so great, it has lit up the mix I am working on.

$V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

six years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdM6v_NC-iU

I heard this song today on my Transvision Vamp lastfm station, and it sounded really good. Well, pretty good. I couldn't quite figure out of they were terrible or really sweet and good.

Then I watched this video and it was even more like, is this Lilith Fair or is this the Primitives, because they are def not the same thing. Anyway, this video totally confused me about VOTB.

Like, VOTB seemed on the other side of cheesy after watching that video, but maybe I just have my sensibilities set improperly?

So then I watched "Don't Call Me Baby" and it was even more wtf.
Do these bands have a US analogue?

What is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFXjyo-E6ok

heartbreak beet (La Lechera), Sunday, 19 June 2011 05:09 (fourteen years ago)

Please note that I knew these songs as a teen, and never saw even an album cover because I taped them off the radio from the public school station. Maybe I checked out the Primitives from my local library? Can't remember. But I was a kid, and I pretty much thought Voice of the Beehive had beehives and dressed like they were going to a fake 50s thrift store prom. I haven't thought about them in like 15 years.

They're so normal, it's weird. I guess not normal-normal, but like not the anachronistic weirdos I thought they were. Huh.

heartbreak beet (La Lechera), Sunday, 19 June 2011 05:23 (fourteen years ago)

It's difficult to compare them directly to any British or American acts of the era - possibly because they were neither, wholly. A huge part of their sound was dreamy, out-of-time Californian pop transplanted onto a jangly late-eighties British indie template - somehow quite different to US bands influenced by the English or English bands trying to 'sound American'. They also had a sense of humour that set them apart from their contemporaries.

I was a bit too young to appreciate them fully at the time but i picked up Honey Lingers and Let It Bee for twenty-pence apiece at a library sale about a decade ago and had the former on repeat for the better part of a year.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Sunday, 19 June 2011 05:59 (fourteen years ago)

used to have a tape with Scritti's Provision on one side and Let It Be on the other, taped for me by my first true love, and nostalgia aside it was the greatest thing ever made by human hands and y'know sorrow floats and etc

j/k lacan (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 June 2011 10:29 (fourteen years ago)

The closest band to them that I can think of are the Adult Net, who were Brix Smith's other band, so there's exactly the same brit indie meets California thing going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jJrwftmoCA

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:01 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWC2-MFwWr8

Actually the Bangles are pretty close soundwise too.

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:04 (fourteen years ago)

Oh, I saw them live once before they had any hits, on a *very* indie bill sandwiched between Slab! (kind like a dance version of Swans) and That Petrol Emotion (their singer, Steve Mack, was the blonde VOTB girl's boyfriend at the time).

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Sunday, 19 June 2011 14:12 (fourteen years ago)

All very good. I'll have to try out that Transvision Vamp station!! Some of those "artist" stations are annoying!

Fog Fucking Hat (u s steel), Sunday, 19 June 2011 15:20 (fourteen years ago)

It was pretty good for a while, but then it started to play Tiffany, and I got even more confused. I guess Tommy James qualifies as sort of like TV but ?? it also played martika which I promptly rejected.

I was thinking this morning that the bangles were a good comparison -- glad to see I was on track. This seems like a super UK thing though right?

Oh also I had one That Petrol Emotion album (won off the radio station lol) that was similarly vexing for me. I listened to it incessantly in 9th gr and then kind of abandoned it. I think I really liked the song "sensitize"?

heartbreak beet (La Lechera), Sunday, 19 June 2011 16:04 (fourteen years ago)

Totally going to check out Slab and the other band NickB suggested tho -- thx!

heartbreak beet (La Lechera), Sunday, 19 June 2011 16:05 (fourteen years ago)

Don't Call Me Baby vs. Don't Call Me Darling

dlp9001, Sunday, 19 June 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)

La Lechera that happens to me too, but at least you get to hear what the crap sounds like in case you were wondering whether you should "go there". Some places give you a limited number of bans before you have to pay.

Fog Fucking Hat (u s steel), Sunday, 19 June 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)

Good point! My Manuel Gottsching station is like 90% what I want, so sometimes it works. Or maybe I just don't have the same deep seated bias against those artists as I do for Tiffany ;)

heartbreak beet (La Lechera), Sunday, 19 June 2011 16:53 (fourteen years ago)

Totally going to check out Slab and the other band NickB suggested tho -- thx!

― heartbreak beet (La Lechera), Sunday, June 19, 2011 4:05 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Err, I should add that none of those bands were very good! (I do have a soft spot for TPE though)

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Sunday, 19 June 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)

Oh man, I heard dancey Swans and thought OOH! Guess not :-/

heartbreak beet (La Lechera), Sunday, 19 June 2011 19:04 (fourteen years ago)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=48tBwHmSKe0

^ Well they did have their moments i guess

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Sunday, 19 June 2011 19:27 (fourteen years ago)

um...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48tBwHmSKe0

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Sunday, 19 June 2011 19:28 (fourteen years ago)

Wow
PEOPLE PIE

You're right, I can live without hearing that again.

heartbreak beet (La Lechera), Sunday, 19 June 2011 19:30 (fourteen years ago)

Haha, that was their best song too! Kind of a weird contrast to VOTB that.

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Sunday, 19 June 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

Voice of the Beehive had some indie cred despite being on a major label and being pretty mainstream in their sound. They toured with Stump, played at Reading and hung out with all the bands and were generally part of the indie scene of the time. They were an excellent band really. The Adult Net were good too but they never toured and their whole career was a bit of a mess of abandoned albums and didn't have a steady line-up so they didn't make much impact. On the other hand VOTB had proper hits.

everything, Sunday, 19 June 2011 19:34 (fourteen years ago)

they always reminded me of a much more pop throwing muses.

akm, Monday, 20 June 2011 21:47 (fourteen years ago)

also, when I was doing writing workshops at UC Berkeley (around 1993) there was a girl who wrote a short story that was about nothing but Voice of the Beehive songs (actually I'm sure it was about a relationship because that's all anyone wrote about, but it was also about Voice of the Beehive). I wish I still had that. It wasn't any good at all, but I thought it was admirable that they had a fan who liked them enough to get ridiculed in a writing workshop.

akm, Monday, 20 June 2011 21:53 (fourteen years ago)

This was the best Slab song-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6afLKPUbiZg

Total Greed-era Swans rip, but thats not a bad thing

bendy, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:57 (fourteen years ago)

four years pass...

They're so normal, it's weird. I guess not normal-normal, but like not the anachronistic weirdos I thought they were. Huh.

^ this — but I think that's true for a lot of bands from the turn of the 90s. Monsters and Angels was undoubtedly their most polished single and it didn't do much (in the US at least), but not for lack of having a good video. The Let it Bee singles, in particular, are more Bangles-y than I remembered them being.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 13 August 2015 05:50 (ten years ago)

Also, they were doing some crazy covers as b-sides. If you click around youtube, you'll see them. "Independence Day" by Comsat Angels was of particular interest to me.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 13 August 2015 05:54 (ten years ago)


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