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I have an embarassing affection for The Funboy Three to this day, and I'm curious about The Colour Field (is that right?? his post fb3 band?), though I've never heard them. and what exactly is the difference between the Specials and Special AKA? and though I once thought the 2nd specials album was a big letdown after the 1st, now I'm now more likely to put on "international jet set" than "nite klub". What's he up to now anyway? He's not part of the reunion Special Beat thing is he?

Does anyone else associate the Specials with adolesence and pining for older girls with arms of bangles and hats and fishnet stockings? *sigh*

fritz, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

For me, Terry Hall only became a familiar voice when I was in my mid- twenties thanks to the very splendid and worthwhile one-disc collection that sampled from the Specials through Terry, Blair and Anouchka, though I haven't heard anything from him since, a couple of random collaborations aside. At his best he strikes me as someone who hints at Bryan Ferry, Bowie, Leonard Cohen and Scott Walker without specifically sounding like any of them, and who Damon Albarn clearly, desperately *wants* to be but can't succeed at becoming. It's a very English voice that's open to very different musical approaches at times, a wounded and wasted elegance that's fascinating while retaining a clear sense of performance rather than quavering confession, and I love his way around remakes ("Summertime," "She," the alternate "Our Lips Are Sealed"). Definitely classic and somebody I really should investigate a bit more thoroughly than I have (and to his credit he has steered away from the Specials reunion bandwagon entirely).

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search: The Colourfield debut "Virgins and Philistines", The Lightning Seeds "Sense", Vegas eponymous album. For the less-than-completist; just get Terry Hall "Collection" (which grabs the best of the T, B&A stuff along with some other rarities and gems)

Destroy: The Colourfield "Deception"

I enjoyed FB3, especially "Waiting", which saw them stripping away some of the more self-consciously goofy stuff of the debut.

The Colourfield debut (with Bunnymen drummer Pete DeFreitas) features some of Hall's strongest Pure Pop work (Castles in the Air, Thinking about You), but also has a moodier side that adds some weight. By the time of the second one, the band split up mid-recording, and as a result, "Deception" is very clinical and over-produced, although not without its highlights for Hall fans.

I used to adore the Terry, Blair and Anouchka album "Ultra-Modern Nursery Rhymes", but it really hasn't stood the test of time, and seems kind of flat and samey - and too jaunty overall. Not sure it goes on the D-list, though.

Hall is featured as a co-writer and prominent b-vox man on The Lightning Seeds' "Sense", and some of the tracks there were later redone in inferior versions for Hall's solo album (produced by Lightning Seeds frontman Ian Broudie).

Vegas saw the unlikely coupling of Eurythmic Dave Stewart with Hall, and though it was not an immediate favorite (far from it), with its Olle Romö-programmed drum tracks and synthetic feel, I think it contains some of Hall's strongest songs.

As for The Special AKA, that was actually the original name of The Specials, and Jerry Dammers reverted to it when Hall, Golding and Staples left for FB3 and he drafted a new vocalist (name eludes me completely).

CountV/John T, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...
God, THIS one died too soon. I'm listening to "The Lunatics Have Taken Over the Asylum" thanks to that spiffing 1981 box and great freaking god please SOMEBODY tell me that intro's been sampled somewhere, because if not we are living in a world of deaf DJs

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

The Terry Hall & Mushtaq album is pretty good although oddly I can't help but feel that it's somewhat similar to the stuff Jerry Dammers was doing with the Special AKA.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)

"Hi, hello, I'm Terry, and I'm going to enjoy myself first."

blinky the doormat, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

" SOMEBODY tell me that intro's been sampled somewhere, because if not we are living in a world of deaf DJs"

Do it! Do it!

phil jones (interstar), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Search: Funboy Three - Our Lips are Sealed

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

Love the Tricky collaboration "Poems" on Nearly God.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

The 20 track album was recorded, mixed and released within record time - the final track listing was not even available to be printed on the CD sleeve. The album featured a range of artists including Oasis, Blur, Suede, the Charlatans, Sinead O'Connor and Neneh Cherry. An accompanying TV programme was also produced showing Terry and Marijine in the studio recording the song.

Just found this tidbit. Ooooh Neneh Cherry and Terry Hall together, I think I'll explode in three million orgasms or rather should track this down.

nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

The album he did with Mushtaq is amazing.

sibsi (sibsi), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

i heart terry. he's put out a lot of solo stuff that i haven't heard like Laugh and Home. i liked that vegas album. my best friend lance still buys everything that terry puts out, god bless him. i walked into art class in 1982 or 1983 and saw that someone had made a homemade FB3 t-shirt!! it was just hanging there and i couldn't believe it. we have been best friends ever since.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm listening to "The Lunatics Have Taken Over the Asylum" thanks to that spiffing 1981 box and great freaking god please SOMEBODY tell me that intro's been sampled somewhere, because if not we are living in a world of deaf DJs

the ENTIRE fb3 debut album is freaking great -- my favorite is "the telephone always rings"!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

I quite liked the Colour Field's Virgins & Philistines LP as well as the "Colour Field" 12", but they really were a different animal altogether from either Fun Boy Three or The Specials.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Pushing Up the Daisies

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

I have to tell that 'Laugh' is a surprisingly good album. The production is not that too polished like it was on 'Home', has a more organic sound, and the songs are perhaps stronger too. Surely a heartbroken album, but still sounds pleasantly, a bit like Morrissey's recent things.

zeus, Saturday, 22 September 2007 11:15 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

SEARCH:
This 10-minute-long Doors cover by Fun Boy Three featuring jazz odyssey freak-outs, real balls of fire and Terry Hall with crazy hair even for Terry Hall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIuAUJ2VyP4&feature=relate

brio, Monday, 20 June 2011 16:43 (fourteen years ago)

just wanted to echo how classic "Virgins and Philistines" is. it kind of reminds me of The Feelies "Crazy Rhythms" - not that they sound alike at all, but that album was one that was impossible to find for a long long time despite being fairly popular on the internet. I'm hoping that now that V&P did get the re-issue it'll take on the same kind of life here. I don't know about much of his work outside of that besides the Specials, though the second Colourfield album is pretty bad (and completely unreleated to the first one)

frogbs, Monday, 20 June 2011 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

aw, deception isn't so bad. or maybe i just like terry a lot. i started a thread on V&P kinda. never hard to find if you like vinyl. don't know about CDs. but yeah everyone on earth should own a copy. the american version! (see thread i started)

scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2011 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

and everyone on earth should own everything tht FB3 ever made. but that's a given.

scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2011 18:29 (fourteen years ago)

eleven years pass...

Tery Hall leaves us. Just 63! rip.

stirmonster, Monday, 19 December 2022 22:45 (three years ago)

It is with great sadness that we announce the passing, following a brief illness, of Terry, our beautiful friend, brother and one of the most brilliant singers, songwriters and lyricists this country has ever produced. (1/4) pic.twitter.com/qJHsI1oTwp

— The Specials (@thespecials) December 19, 2022

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 19 December 2022 22:50 (three years ago)

Gutted. RIP Terry.

kitchen person, Monday, 19 December 2022 22:51 (three years ago)

awful news, RIP Terry
Specials had a massive impact on me as a kid, and Our Lips Are Sealed is an all time classic

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 19 December 2022 22:53 (three years ago)

Fucking hell. Difficult to take in.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Monday, 19 December 2022 22:55 (three years ago)

Immortal for "Friday Night, Saturday Morning" and co-writing "Our Lips Are Sealed" alone.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 December 2022 22:58 (three years ago)

Fuck. More shocked by this than I would've expected. I will rep for 'Ghost Town' as one of the greatest pop singles ever. RIP.

emil.y, Monday, 19 December 2022 23:10 (three years ago)

RIP. Hard to believe this one.

Kiss Me, Dudley (Tom D.), Monday, 19 December 2022 23:16 (three years ago)

Truly a loss. Cosign on "Ghost Town."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 19 December 2022 23:17 (three years ago)

Ahhh! No way!!

frogbs, Monday, 19 December 2022 23:18 (three years ago)

wow. speechless.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 December 2022 23:23 (three years ago)

Also: his bit here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBSdwox134s

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 December 2022 23:23 (three years ago)

Jeez. Just so wrong.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 December 2022 23:36 (three years ago)

man this sucks! rip terry

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 19 December 2022 23:39 (three years ago)

fucking hell, this is awful news

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 19 December 2022 23:54 (three years ago)

Well this is fucking shitty news

Singing random songs to myself in a [Terry Hall voice] has always been one of my favourite things

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 00:02 (three years ago)

x-posts - That's the song I went to, Alfred. Horrible news.

djh, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 00:32 (three years ago)

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfSqTO5pV0o

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 00:56 (three years ago)

more recently, the album he did with Mushtaq was really good -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5du2-kR1FF0

stirmonster, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 01:08 (three years ago)

Aw man, R.I.P. What a great singer.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 04:01 (three years ago)

Gutted to hear of the passing of #terryhall. He was a lovely, sensitive, talented and unique person. Our extremely brief romance resulted in the song Our Lips Are Sealed, which will forever tie us together in music history. Terrible news to hear this. 😢 pic.twitter.com/Fxxqr0p01T

— Jane Wiedlin (@janewiedlin) December 19, 2022

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 04:02 (three years ago)

Fuck. More shocked by this than I would've expected. I will rep for 'Ghost Town' as one of the greatest pop singles ever. RIP.

Oh man - Terry Hall.

Me and some pals have an occasional covers band - weddings, parties, anything. Due to all of us having worked in 'the biz' we've brought in some powerful ringers to sing with us over the years...

— John Niven HQ (@estellecostanza) December 20, 2022

groovypanda, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 08:30 (three years ago)

Sad to hear that Terry will not be joining us for another season. Cryptic, droll, a heart of gold, and he could tackle like a donkey! Always a proper gent to The Beat, our condolences to family and friends x pic.twitter.com/ilQIt8P3dd

— dave wakeling (@dave_wakeling) December 20, 2022

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 08:42 (three years ago)

Never heard Tunnel of Love before today. What a tune.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi7BXqmYxiw

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 11:15 (three years ago)

I've loved The Specials and Fun Boy Three albums for so long, & he's always been that paradigmatic voice - many trying the same tone, no-one really touching him. What a set of songs, too.

Rather than a track, a documentary that I saw years ago at an NFT 2-tone night. I love looking at that scruffy grey midlands world - it's where my memories start. Also, that gig looks fucking great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PciCyURg6V0

RIP Terry.

woof, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 11:46 (three years ago)

Only found out recently that the Colourfield covered the wonderful 'Hammond Song' by the Roches. Its frankly a pretty terrible version tbh, but at the same time I was really impressed that Terry knew and loved that song too

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 11:57 (three years ago)

A highly local view:

This just flowed. Not remotely close to everything I have to say about this man, but all I could manage this morning x https://t.co/BBFGmOuu5n

— ⚫Neil Kulkarni (@KaptainKulk) December 20, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 13:08 (three years ago)

"Fuck Larkin, who disavowed us anyway, and whose racism showed he wasn’t fit for the city we had become. In the death of Terry Hall we have lost our greatest ever poet."

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 13:09 (three years ago)

There is a really wonderful deep divey interview with Terry by Ian Svenoneous that seems to have been scrubbed from the internet. If anyone knows where to find that hmu.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 16:41 (three years ago)

Bless whoever posted this 4 hours ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g6EERtOZC0

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 16:55 (three years ago)

🖤

meisenfek, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 19:08 (three years ago)

He somehow got more handsome as he aged.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 20 December 2022 20:13 (three years ago)

How he died

Horace Panter, bass player for the #Specials, on the shockingly brief last days of his bandmate, #TerryHall. #music https://t.co/lJTuCKU2sw pic.twitter.com/JPLKgM57Nb

— Steve Silberman (@stevesilberman) December 21, 2022

Alba, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 07:20 (three years ago)

not sure that was something i wanted to read 8(

koogs, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 10:07 (three years ago)

Jesus thats horrific, poor guy

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 10:19 (three years ago)

Sorry, should have done that as a link not an embed.

Alba, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 10:47 (three years ago)

(i saw it as a link because i have images off. it was more that it was just so sad and so sudden)

koogs, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 10:55 (three years ago)

so awful!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 11:53 (three years ago)

https://www.mixcloud.com/TimmyMallett/terry-hall-easter-special-piccadilly-radio-tx-8th-april-1985-tx-2100-2300/

"I asked 25 year old Terry Hall if he'd like to have a go at presenting his own show. There were just the two of us in studio 2 at Piccadilly Radio with a pile of records and a delightful shy and slightly nervous Terry. I played the records in real time, and encouraged him to tell his story and he gets more confident as the show progresses.

Enjoy the revelation of his inspirations and a personal insight into the processes of his recording. There are some joyous surprises coming up

The tape has been in the loft since 1985."

city worker, Thursday, 22 December 2022 14:12 (three years ago)

anyone have recommendations on where to srart with fun boy three? i was thinking of going ahead with the waiting album (because it has "our lips are sealed" on it) but would love any recs

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 22 December 2022 14:29 (three years ago)

It's only really two albums so dive in imo. They're very different - first is dark, claustrophobic, heavy percussive drive all the way through, sort of like Adam + Ants buried underground & despairing; second has a broader palette and stronger more traditional songs. Both great.

woof, Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:25 (three years ago)

yeah, dive right in. Waiting is the darker of the two imo.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:26 (three years ago)

there are a couple of singles not on the albums afaics - summertime, really saying something, both worth tracking down

koogs, Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:31 (three years ago)

There was a brief but heartfelt tribute posted by Steve Albini, as he often does when a musician of note dies, but the specific tone of the post really underscored what an impact the Specials made.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:36 (three years ago)

and some great 12" mixes too, esp. our lips are sealed.

stirmonster, Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:37 (three years ago)

great to hear, i'll prob listen to both albums today

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Thursday, 22 December 2022 15:38 (three years ago)

still very much love that first Colourfield album. I got the American copy which screws up the tracklist (no "Armchair Theater"! come on!) but still, the band is so good that everything they do kinda works for me. can't remember much about that follow-up, though lmao @ Deception's cover imitating New Order's Low Life pretty much exactly. maybe I'll give it another shot.

frogbs, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:11 (three years ago)

also was thinking about how The Specials, Fun Boy Three, and The Colourfield all had fairly successful singles with Terry Hall as frontman. I wonder if anyone else has managed 3 successful groups by their mid-20s like that. there's probably an obvious answer (Clapton?) but I can't think of it right now.

frogbs, Thursday, 22 December 2022 16:32 (three years ago)

At a stretch, there's Midge Ure (Slik, Rich Kids, Visage, Thin Lizzy, Ultravox, all before the age of 26) and Graham Nash (Hollies => Crosby, Stills and Nash => CSNY).

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Friday, 23 December 2022 17:47 (three years ago)

Steve Winwood had hits with Spencer Davis Group, Traffic and Blind Faith by the age of 22.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 23 December 2022 18:03 (three years ago)

Did Funboy 3 and Colourfield have any magnitude of success at the time beyond the sort of people who read music mags?

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 23 December 2022 19:04 (three years ago)

funboy 3 had top ten hits and TV presence, colourfield much less so

mark s, Friday, 23 December 2022 19:06 (three years ago)

FB3 were a mainstream pop act for a couple of years in the UK, regular appearances on TV shows, in Smash Hits etc

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 23 December 2022 19:07 (three years ago)

I even remember seeing "It Ain't What You Do..." on Friday Nite Videos here in the States.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 December 2022 19:10 (three years ago)

FB3: A top ten album, a top twenty album, two top 5 singles, two top ten singles, three top twenty singles, launched Bananarama. We can't definitively prove that any of those sold to people who didn't like music though.

more crankable (sic), Friday, 23 December 2022 19:10 (three years ago)

I don't remember them making any sort of impression in the U.S. beyond the video for "Our Lips are Sealed," in which Terry looks hilariously mopey.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 23 December 2022 19:11 (three years ago)

(Colourfield had a #12 album and a #12 single, and several less-successful releases. Just managing those two by 25 would feel pretty good imo tho.)

more crankable (sic), Friday, 23 December 2022 19:13 (three years ago)

FB3 do The Specials - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8MkuJKHJ7g

stirmonster, Saturday, 24 December 2022 01:48 (three years ago)

cool!

kurt schwitterz, Saturday, 24 December 2022 04:55 (three years ago)

Terry perhaps channeling a contemporaneous Robert Smith in personal style.

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 24 December 2022 08:57 (three years ago)

Yeah, I always used to think that!

Alba, Saturday, 24 December 2022 09:11 (three years ago)

Robert Smith less likely to wear moccasins though

https://cdns-images.dzcdn.net/images/artist/61da3ac01e57203ff76539851fcd6c48/500x500.jpg

soref, Saturday, 24 December 2022 09:21 (three years ago)

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/migration_catalog/95b73/25660901.ece/AUTOCROP/w620/GYI0058744302

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 14:29 (three years ago)

Amy Winehouse, Terry Hall and Lynval Golding attend the 2009 Q Awards held at the Grosvenor House Hotel on October 26, 2009 in London, England.

meisenfek, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 18:00 (three years ago)

Well done, Coventry City.
RIP Terry Hall#PUSB #thespecials pic.twitter.com/U80LBWEwF0

— SkyBlueFansTV (@SkyBlueFansTV1) December 21, 2022

meisenfek, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 18:00 (three years ago)

Nice!

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 December 2022 18:35 (three years ago)

FB3 - perfect discography btw - had one of the strangest (if slow) public exits of any band I can think of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIuAUJ2VyP4

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 21:53 (three years ago)

In 1994 I head his singles from Home on the radio a lot (Mark Radcliffe), and they seem to have been forgotten. Sense hung around the bottom of the singles chart, and made an impact because it sounds like The Lightning Seeds, cowritten with Broudie.
But for me it's Forever J which should have done better. It was around the time Urge Overkill were big and it felt like it was part of the same genre. To realise years later it was the same bloke who had sung Ghost Town and Too Much Too Young was weird!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxdQZf57k8g

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 27 December 2022 23:39 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM1sv_gQGxw

MaresNest, Friday, 30 December 2022 01:27 (three years ago)

Good night, Terry. Good night, Rhoda.

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 December 2022 01:36 (three years ago)

That sound of Coventry video has Jerry Dammers going on about the impossibility of teaching Terry to dance. Don’t know if that was fair but based on the video loop that accompanies the streaming video of “A Message to You, Rudy” I am inclined to agree.

A Kestrel for a Neve (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 December 2022 13:56 (three years ago)

the 6 minute version of Too Much Too Young just popped up on shuffle and i love the way the last half just chills out. i think the single version was live and angry and got them into a bit of trouble.

koogs, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 03:05 (three years ago)

five months pass...

https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/the-complete-fun-boy-three-deluxe-set/

MaresNest, Thursday, 15 June 2023 14:53 (two years ago)

nine months pass...

Terry Hall night on bbc4 tonight

2100 Terry hall at the bbc
2200 specials, rock goes to college
2245 arena - Two Tone doc
2320 specials 6 music sessions
2355 2-tone - the sound of Coventry
0055 later with jools, reggae and ska

koogs, Friday, 29 March 2024 09:56 (one year ago)

Les from the bunnymen on bass there for the track they just played from Home.

koogs, Friday, 29 March 2024 22:01 (one year ago)


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