Eugene Chadbourne: Classic or Dud/Search and Destroy?

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The songwriter: he is insane.
Anyone have any opinions on him and his LSDC&W?
Better than Travis Tritt but not as good as Zoogz Rift?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

(once again) ...B*n W*tson to thread!?

well i have just six or seven rekkids by him (Chadbourne, not W*tson, luckily), but none of them are from earlier than mid-80s ...and, huh, he infuriates and enthralls me in equal measure, really, depending on the rekkid

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I have one B*n W*tson rec where he's reading his poetry to derek bailey's guitar. he sounds retarded! good stuff.

I should hear more chadbourne than i have but i have listened to (not songs) is v good too.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 11:25 (twenty-two years ago)

THE MAN is ABSOLUTE CLASSIC. his records can be patchy tho' - he must record as often as merzbow. i like that he doesn't shy from politics or humour - 2 things SORELY missed by most avant garde practicioners. that can make for annoyance but i'm sure half the time that's what he is going for. i recently got his cd of solo dobro improvisations on Leo records. it is just scratching noises! even for chadula this was somewhat extreme. saw him playing banjo with Kenny process team - that was HOT.

bob snoom, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Good Lord. If you counted up all the self-released material and the stuff labels have put out . . . it boggles the mind how much stuff you'd have to sift through to do a proper overview of the man, especially since, as mentioned, it usually varies wildly in quality, even within the same release. I haven't even tried to keep up for many years. (I've thought twice about picking up some of the recent albums on Leo and other improv labels, just to see what he's up to, but I haven't been compelled yet.)

That said, if I only had to recommend a few (a few you might actually find, that is) from the period I know best, I'd say start with There'll Be No Tears Tonight, his free-improv-country-and-western opus (w/John Zorn). Probably his most consistent, consistently interesting, and "professional" recording ever. A nice window into his musical world. The President, He Is Insane is a pretty good summation of his music circa his post-Shockabilly height of solo "fame." I seem to remember liking Vermin of the Blues with Evan Johns and the H-Bombs too. A lot of people (in Chad terms) seem to like Country Protest, though I can take it or leave it. Ditto for the Camper Van Chadbourne stuff.

Then there's Shockabilly. I used to love those records, but I haven't actually listened to them in a long time, so I hesitate to pontificate. I gather that he was annoyed by a lot of the production that Kramer added after they recorded basic tracks, even though in some cases, the production makes the tunes.

Then there's live, which is a whole different ballgame. I've seem him be really good, amazing even. (I caught a show a week or two after Miles Davis died and he covered "Bitches Brew" on acoustic guitar--wow.) I've walked out on his sets too. I doubt he still does, but he used to bring his young daughter with him on road trips and she would join him onstage to "sing" and otherwise perform in an obnoxiously cutesy fashion. It was unbearable.

Classic or Dud? Who knows. He really is sort of uncategorizable, even in those reductive terms. I mean, he's just the kind of artist who's almost overripe for some sort of music-nerd "rediscovery," complete with a boxed set, a big tour, a tribute project, and major ink in minor mags. But he's so contrarian, so hard to corral. Depending on where the needle drops, he's a great unsung artist or fatally self-indulgent. I mean, if someone were to do some kind of Big Book of Underground Music, he'd have to be a whole chapter or just a passing footnote. Very little in between would do him justice.

Lee G (Lee G), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't have much of his, but I LOVE 'Bo Diddley Is A Communist'.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I have Patrizio, with Paul Lovens, which is great.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

not as good as Zoogz Rift?

WHUH!?

duane, Thursday, 5 June 2003 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

sure you have to sift through eugene's constant flow for the nuggets of pure gold, but it's more than worth it when you strike a rich vein. absolutely fucking classic.

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 5 June 2003 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)

not as good as Zoogz Rift?
WHUH!?

Don't mind that, duane. He's just the first name that popped into my head.
I didn't feel like doing a Zoogz Rift thread at the time. (If anyone want to compare/contrast Zoogz and Eugene, feel free to do so.)

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 5 June 2003 12:05 (twenty-two years ago)

he's 1 of my top favourites! eugene that is. zoogz rift tho , he made some of the worst records on SST!!!, i guess that pretty prestigious really.

duane, Thursday, 5 June 2003 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)

* that's

d, Thursday, 5 June 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...
Reviving because there were posters for his show all over Venice. If I'd known he was playing I would have changed my departure flight.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 8 February 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

I love Eugene. I've seen him a few times over the years and probably have about at least 10 albums including both the Camper Van Beethoven ones (the first one's the best). Personal favourites are "There'll Be No Tears Tonight", "I've Been Everywhere" and "Corpses of Foreign Wars". Often patchy, yes, but usually each album has 3 or 4 absolute gems.

everything (everything), Thursday, 8 February 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

His reviews of Wierd Al Jankovic albums on AMG - Classic

mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

Did a Maximumrocknroll column for a while, which was always entertaining. The Shockabilly albums weren't the kind of thing that you played a lot, but when you did drag them out - usually sometime well after midnight, with friends - they seemed absolutely classic.

Somehow managed to miss at least two local Chadbourne bar gigs over the last decade or so. Shockabilly for Instal 2007 - start the campaign now!

Soukesian (Soukesian), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and it's a damn shame he's not considered "The Most Influential and Innovative Rock Guitarist Since Hendrix", though he'd have to be in the running for 'innovative'

Soukesian (Soukesian), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:21 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

From a documentary *by* (?) Derek Bailey, who sounds strangely at home doing voiceover work. The live part from about 2:30 in is great, especially when he pulls out a sudden blast of overdrive. It's nuts, but it really is genuinely sorta countrified.

Maybe that's what made Ronald Reagan describe him as 'a direct threat to the American way of life'.

laszlo will see you now (gnarly sceptre), Monday, 9 February 2009 21:23 (sixteen years ago)

five years pass...

Eugene Chadbourne's 'Dreamory' has just been published. 'tour and dream diaries, teenage and draft dodging memoirs and much more'

At 1000+ pages, it's rather a doorstep, but I got a kick out of the childhood stories published in Forced Exposure #13. If this is anything like that, I'm sold. In fact, I have some (perhaps mistaken) memory of that article suggesting that the full memoirs would be published eventually, or at least, I had the sense that they were just an extract, cause I'm sure I tried to search for the book at one point. Perhaps this is the end result of that same process??? Just took him a while!

http://www.eugenechadbourne.com/pages/DreamoryBckCov.jpg

rad naps (+ +), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 00:00 (ten years ago)

Oh god I remember him, he was supporting Moe Tucker at the Powerhaus.

He had an electric scrapey thing that he ended his set with by dragging it along the floor and ceiling and so forth. Before that, it was very like electric bluegrass, it was amazing stuff but too much to take all in one go.

Mark G, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 00:34 (ten years ago)

Love Eugene. I'd love to read this - mostly for his early career which seems very mysterious.

everything, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 00:45 (ten years ago)

1,000 pages!

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:48 (ten years ago)

awesome

bamcquern, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:58 (ten years ago)

To Mark G: Sounds like the electric rake!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwNGxr-T4Qc

bamcquern, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 02:00 (ten years ago)

He played electric toaster the one time I saw him, in Memphis. Part of playing it involved sticking a butter knife down in the slots, which guarantees a great visceral reaction from the audience.

WmC, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 02:06 (ten years ago)

dream diaries

Don't like the sound of this.
Wonder if he's rude about Kramer* somewhere within these 1000+ pages?

*the Shimmy-Disc one, not the Seinfeld one

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 03:09 (ten years ago)

should i buy that CD of him making music with noel akchote? it's been sitting in the local record store for a few years and i eye it every so often.

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 03:51 (ten years ago)

Thanks for the electric rake, mystery ILXor who is probably well known as whoeverperson, but has changed their name so everyone knows who it is but me.

ta.

Frank Cement (Mark G), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 12:13 (ten years ago)

oh darn.

Mark G, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 12:14 (ten years ago)

two years pass...
one year passes...

Saw him last night. He was fantastic! One set with acoustic banjo, one with a dobro. A little dazzling the way he can move from playing and singing country tunes to wildly dissonant and noisy improv and back, and with nods to jazz and classical too. I picked up a new double CD-R from the many he had available: one is all prepared guitar, the other is labelled "Bach or German Country and Western". I'm listening to it now. Atm, we're in Derek Bailey-esque territory.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:19 (seven years ago)

And now we're on an 'aria'.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 6 June 2018 02:22 (seven years ago)


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