Fave new African Music of 2003

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What are some good new Afropop cds I should listen to (not reissues)? I love Malian vocalist Mamani Keita's voice on her cd with Marc Minelli called Electric Bamako (Universal/Palm) though I'm not crazy about Minelli's mostly heard-it-all-before electronica backing. I noticed at www.afropop.org the following Congolese top 15. Anybody heard any of these efforts

A Recent Kinshasa Chart 1) "A la queue leu leu" Werrason and Wenge MMM
(JPS)
2) "Yo nani?" Wazekwa and Culrur'A Pays Vie (JPS)
3) "Eureka" Nyoka Longo and Zaiko Langa Langa (JPS)
4) "Compteur à zero" La Casa de Canao (Sonodisc)
5) "Nouvel Ordre" Emeneya and Victoria DTDB (Lusafrica)
6) "Eboulement Total" Marie-Paul and Wenge El Paris (Sonica)
7) "4 Coins Kandala" Sam Tshintu and Academia (Afro Media)
8) "Oui, Ca Va" Josky and Bana OK (Clarys Music)
9) "Effrakata" Koffi Olomide and Quartier Latin (Sonodisc)
10) "Bonheur" Madilu and R. System (JPS)
11) "Dinanga" Tshala Mwana (Edicom)
12) "Welcome" Mbilia Bel (Globe Music)
13) "Nkila Magrosso" Papa Wemba and Nouvelle Ecrita (Gillette D'or)
14) "Kibwisa Mpimpa" Werrason and Wenge MMM (JPS)
15) "Internet" J.B. Mpiana Wenga BCBG (SIPE)
Contributed by: Kavlo Madikani

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Saturday, 7 June 2003 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I was not that impressed with Electro Bamako - thought the arrangements were way too busy. A more successful Malian electronica experiment would be Issa Bagayogo's Sya or Timbuktu.

Mamani Keita can be heard in much better form on Espace, second album by the group Tama.

know a few of the groups listed up there but not these particular efforts, but am a bit down on Congolese at the moment. The same formula is being repeated and its a little played out.

I haven't been as won over as others by Mouffou, Salif Keita's latest but it is a v. strong album. The comeback album by Bembeya Jazz is a god introduction to them but no substitute for seeingthem live, they're touring the US this summer so check 'em out if you get a chance.

Umm, still waking up so will try and think of more and post later

H (Heruy), Saturday, 7 June 2003 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

love the older Bembeya Jazz I've heard so no problem being sold on that. I haven't been hearing much new stuff--bought lots of reissues recently at a trip to Stern's in NYC--but that Congolese top 15 looks interesting. need to try and keep up a bit more.

M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 7 June 2003 06:43 (twenty-two years ago)

not what you're looking for, but afropop in the 'pop made in africa' sense:

h2O - "it's wonderful"
skwatta camp - "hai hai" (i think it's spelled the same as the punjabi hit squad song, which is kind of great in itself)
godessa - "social ills (much better live than on record)
nas "feat." ramesh - "this is a letter"
dj mabuso - "soulcandi session 1"

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 7 June 2003 08:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Also check out Soul Marrabenta by Mabulu, multi-generational Mozambican group with vocalists ranging in age from early 20s to mid 70s, that switches from MCs to crooners. . The solo album by Dilon Djindi, the grandfatherly singer of the group, showcases his lovely vocals.

Most modern Congolese music feels so formulaic and cynical that I tend to zone it out. Recently I’ve been listening to Kekele, a group made up of a lot of the oldtime rumba guys, its pretty good. (Also a demo by Maryse Ngalulu a young singer in Kinshasa with a fantastic voice. She’s working with a full band and an updated version of the old rumba bands. Someone needs to sign her.)

RS has been talking positively on other threads about the new album by Algerian singer Abdelli. Deb, the new album by Souad Massi, also from Algeria, is supposed to be v. good. I’m familiar with her older stuff which was pretty straightforward singer-songwriter stuff, Tracy Chapman/Joan Baez type but the new album is supposed to be much more adventurous and fun. She has a gorgeous voice so might be worth your checking it out.

Matos - you must go see Bembeya when they hit Summerstage, they are wonderful live. When i had them play here a cpl months back they played for four hours and after the concert someone told me they felt 'spiritually cleansed'

Mitch - plz post more recomendations

H (Heruy), Saturday, 7 June 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

back in the day mbilia bel cd do no wrong: i wd recommend you check out her, tshala muana, papa wemba maybe (sometimes he wz a jazzfunky for me, arragements-wise) and josky

zaiko langa langa i always found boring, but maybe i heard the wrong stuff

( i haven't heard any new congolese pop for an age, so everyone may have gone all like electroclash-triphop and wrecked a top thing)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 7 June 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, and whatever happened to my two years in the making recommendations, birthday boy

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 7 June 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

read post above yrs jessalump

real answer: it retains its place in the things i promised i'd do on ilm queue (= currently at #1390467890987)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 7 June 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Dilon Djindi, and Bembeya, and Orchestra Baobob(who are also coming to the US this summer)and last year's Salif Keita and old Tshala Mwana and old Zaiko Langa Langa but I have this nagging voice in my ear(Simon Reynolds' maybe!) saying those folks are old, what are the kids on the streets listening to???? I love the classic sounding stuff but I am curious as well about the newer sounds...

Do any of you have access to Senegalese rap, South African kwaito(danceclub music I think), Ghanian whatever...
I saw mbalax singer Thione Seck from Senegal in DC a short while back and the virtually all Senegalese crowd(some in their teens and 20s but most 30s and up)seemed to love him, but I wasn't wowed(I think Xgau liked him in the Voice)--decent enough voice but he doesn't have the songwriting or musical highs (or lows--his failed crossover attempts) of Youssou N'Dour(who is going to be back in DC in September). The Congolese stuff is formulaic but I see that Brit writer Martin Sinnock who contributes to California magazine the Beat and to a website that I can't remember right now says some of the Congolese performers offer more than formula. He loves King Kester Emeneya and his group Victoria who I have yet to hear, and Koffi Olamide(who's touring the US now) whose voice didn't wow me when I saw him a few years back but whose big big band with lots of male and female dancers, plenty of keyboards, guitars, bass, and drums, and several vocalists were kind of impressive.

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Saturday, 7 June 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

at the moment kwaito is undergoing a bit of a transitional phase: the pressure to be south africa's 'voice of the youth' has pretty much been transferred onto the burgeoning local hiphop scene. so there's a bit of kwaito-hop fusion stuff going around, but the hiphop contingent seems to want to distinguish between the musics - "kwaito? yeah i tried it/didn't like it". insofar as i can worry about where big clumps of culture are headed, i'm concerned that the burden of consciousness is turning local hiphop away from the physicality of MONSTER BASS and SLAMMIN BEATS etc. skwatta camp (or is it kamp?) are the closest thing we've got to a roll deep crew and even they sound somewhat neutered on that comp i bought (while we're on the topic i should note that the skwatta line "i pick my nose in public" is the best/worst hiphop boast i've ever heard).

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 7 June 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

It's interesting to me how hiphop is now being filtered into and adopted by people in African countries--even when it musically or aesthetically transforms (based upon in part what elements are being marketed from abroad) in a way one finds unsatisfactory. Maybe an ethnomusicologist somewhere could explain how this current musical exchange is different or similar then when Latin rumba or jazz swing came to Africa and interacted with the locally based and created African sounds. Politics, Aids, cable tv and the economy must be factored in to that equation. As an aside, when I saw old South Africans the Mahotello Queens at Zanzibar in DC(a upscale international club)a year or so ago(the small crowd consisted mainly of Black South African emigrees), in betweens sets there was a tape playing of what I thought was kwaito (with just a bit of rap) and to one song DC area South Africans(my guess on the background) were doing some kind of line dance that was different then the line dancing I've seen done in Chitlin Circuit r'n'b clubs, or white middle class weddings....

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Saturday, 7 June 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.africasounds.com/paris_africa.htm

www.getthebeat.com/about.html

two sources on West African music....

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Saturday, 7 June 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess there are more IlX folks into microhouse, rap, and rock then African music...I'll have to just head out past Washington DC to my local Maryland African Cd and video store as well as online and see what's interesting...

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Sunday, 8 June 2003 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

For those in the LA area, Bembeya Jazz will be at the free, outdoor Grand Performances stage on Aug 1 (noon and 8 pm). Lots of world music is presented there, starting July 5th this year. Check out their site Grand Performances.

nickn (nickn), Monday, 9 June 2003 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm, not sure what ‘the kids’ are listening to outside of the usual pop/hip hop/r&b as elsewhere. some possibilities below

Senegal’s Positive Black Soul fusion of hiphop & local music is popular. Works well live as well with a DJ providing the bulk of the music while someone else switches between guitar, kora and djembe to alternatively provide ornamentation or take the lead.

Bisso Na Bisso, Congolese hiphop based out of Paris were good but haven’t heard anything new by them in a couple of years and have no idea if they’re still together.

In Cote D’Ivoire you’ve got Tiken Jah Fakoly which is pretty straightahead reggae. Same goes for Ghana’s Rocky Dawuni.

re S. Africa outside of the big kwaito names like Bongo Maffin or TKZee i'm not gonna be that much help.

Check these sites for some more info

www.rage.co.za
www.afribeat.com
www.africanhiphop.com

H (Heruy), Monday, 9 June 2003 09:23 (twenty-two years ago)

H, so with the right publicity can any of those artists get the attention that UK garridge rapper Dizzee Rascal has gotten? Or are their efforts more derivative and facing other obstacles in reaching the Ilx world, the hipsters and the masses.

Steve Kiviat (Steve K), Monday, 9 June 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

have yet to hear Dizzee Rascal so no way to judge how accesible he is or what obstacles may have had to overcome and outside of ILx haven't seen much on him so can't really answer tat.

I don't know if the problem is being derivative per se. One huge obstacle most of these ppl face is the difficulty n having a hit if you don't sing in English. bad management and lack of infrastructure to support artist development is a problem facing most everyone, and that does not help matters.

There are some who are better poised than others to branch out e.g, Ptho BS albums have yet to win me over their live shows are great, ultra-tight, moves smoothly between rapping and harmonizing, roots and electronics. they've collaborated with enough ppl and have the history that they could do something.

Bisso na Bisso had some incredible songs and could easiliy see them having a hit but, as i said, they seem to have vanished.

however, a lot of these ppl have demonstrated that they can gain continent-wide popularity, crossing language barriers here and stylistic differences. (you esp. see this now with s. african stuff, with artists ranging from Brenda Fassie to Bongo Maffin, getting played everywhere)

have to run, will post a bit more later

H (Heruy), Monday, 9 June 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

related to my point on language, you do have the Francophone artists doing very well in France, selling huge amounts of records, sellout concerts, multiple festivals etc. and to a degreee this is open to artists from outside the French-speaking world. Germany is another huge market for some of these artists and also te Netherlands. The level of support you see there for Afropop or other world musics is on a whole other scale than you find in the US or UK.

H (Heruy), Monday, 9 June 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)


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