cage - ballad of worms

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ok you know those weird underground mcs who cant rap and their songs are about depression and have slow female indie choruses and like violins and acoustic guitars and shit but no bass!!! i dont think id actually heard any of it before but like i always think of what ive read about atomosphere and aesop rock so for sure itd be the worst thing ever right, well its really embarrassing but i like this song and i think its a part of that scene or whatever :`(``

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 8 June 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe its because its on the first underground hiphop lp ive bought in like two years!! this stuff actually sounds kinda good if youve just been listening to pop radio, like its a real alternative or something, it has to be the raw stuff though not that 'we make party jams but with no hooks' blackalicious crap, its weird how close eminem came to being one of those white emo-rap mcs, thank god hes actually funny and hates people besides himself!! this song is about cage being in love with a dead girl and she lives in his room, his flow is shit but the rhymes are good, 'cold as a corpse and still holdin the source / like one day this cover is yours'

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

It has to be better than Bright Eyes singing about the same kind of thing. They sing about that kind of thing, don't they?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

well bright eyes arent goths!! i think youd like this song ned, you should download it!!

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

"i dont think id actually heard any of it before"
"its on the first underground hiphop lp ive bought in like two years!!"

Oh man this explains everything
(note: substitute "mainstream" for "underground" and this is me in early '02)

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

its got that divine styler 'not really rap' ned thing goin on

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

haha yes patrin youve 'opened my eyes' to joyless dirge rap, ill never listen to nelly again

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

although ok i admit it im sorta intrigued, if anybody wants to make me a mix of this stuff id listen to it

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

anyway patrin how do you 'not hear' the mainstream???

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

well bright eyes arent goths!!

They're emo kids who can't bring it upon themselves to dress as goths, see. ;-)

its got that divine styler 'not really rap' ned thing goin on

Ha! Well, that could work, yes. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

1) Turn on Top 40 radio station
2) Listen to a dozen songs which are pretty fucking great
3) Sit through twenty fucking minutes of obnoxious commercials
4) Give up, turn off radio
5) Come back to radio later; hear exact same dozen songs
6) Get bored
7) Give up
8) Retreat into '70s funk mix CD

(DISCLAIMER: I live in fuckin' fly-over land where our newspapers have to mention in every hip-hop-related article that "rap is a style of music involving spoken-word rhymes delivered over beats")

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

no no i mean your 'early 02' conversion or whatever!! how had you 'not heard' the mainstream in the way that i havent heard any indie rap (because see ITS NOT POPULAR)

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Probably the whole stupid "you like indie OR you like mainstream, you cannot like BOTH because that would be WEIRD" thing. I eventually figured I have to be on top of everything if I want to be a writer or whatever. Surprise surprise, I wound up liking a lot of stuff I didn't think I would. Now I'm more pissed at the critical/fan us-them divisions than anything the actual music does.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

thats cool nate!! maybe i should give this underground stuff a break sometimes, i do like some of the weird beats but the mcs are SO BAD

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 8 June 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't think MC's are much better or worse on either side of the trough. probably 90% of mainstream and underground MC's have no skills, but at least in the case of the former, it's usually guys like Cam'ron who at least aren't completely charmless. so for underground dudes I usually gravitate to the ones that are a little goofy but still can fucking rhyme, like say Grand Buffet.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 8 June 2003 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

cam has skills!!

trife (simon_tr), Monday, 9 June 2003 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

trife are you familiar with Planet Asia?

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 9 June 2003 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
this is built of built to spill samples! i haven't listened to 'perfect from now on' for what must be a couple years now. downloading this after a trife recommendation is like my indie guilt coming full circle or something! pity i don't think it's very good at all.

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 26 July 2003 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
www.myspace.com/newmellohradio


too bad there is so much crap out there that kids think underground MCs can't ryhme

Man, Monday, 17 April 2006 19:02 (twenty years ago)

wackest rapper alive now but his old shit is still genius lyrical

+--++-++, Monday, 17 April 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

"this song is about cage being in love with a dead girl and she lives in his room,"

A little late to correct, but she's not dead, she's dying. Can't think of many other songs about hospice.

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 26 June 2009 14:07 (sixteen years ago)


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