This Mortal Coil

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I hav a chance to use computer. I would like to ask a question if you don't think i'm not modest.I saw the 4AD discussion but no one mentioned Thhis Mortal Coil. I like this group immensely. It sounds like girls of the sea singing lullaby for sailors to fall on rocks. I would ask-what is the best CD to get. And also-this mortal coil is a religious term-Many other groups have religious names too-The Saints, the Fall(angels falling from heaven) Jesus and Mary-so I ask, are these groups being sacriligious, or is western culture stil dominated by religious background(education etc)In Ukraine the Pope visited an was met by hysteria-I hope this is not religious revival, but i think maybe its just to annoy orthodox Russians who dominate Governmentin Kyiv.

liliya, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This Mortal Coil is a Shakespearian allusion (from "Hamlet," I believe) to life, not a Religious term. Ivo Watts-Russell (the man behind 4AD and This Mortal Coil) is not smitten by any religious blindess for where I can see.

IT'LL END IN TEARS is without question one of my favorite albums of all time, not least for Liz Fraser's cover of Tim Buckley's "Song to the Siren."

alex in nyc, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Alex is right about the Shakespeare reference.

The first two are very good, I never got the third, which leads me to ask: does anyone know if the CDs are the same editions as when they first came out, or have they been remastered? I prefer to play vinyl LPs, but these came out when I first had a CD player and didn't know any better. Their mid-80's digital mastering is like nails on a blackboard, and wonder if they sound any better now. I'd actually consider buying "It'll End in Tears" again; I'm not a big fan of the "4AD sound", but it's a fine album.

Sean, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes, Shakespeare / Hamlet. The full phrase was "when we have shuffled off this mortal coil," which is a lot more evocative than "when we're dead." Thus is "This Mortal Coil" the most all- encompassing band name ever, as it refers to life and existence as we know it. Beat that, Asia, with your "biggest continent and home to nearly half of the world's population" stuff.

Blood was quite good as well, and -- while I'm not sure I'd agree -- gets the AMG's pick as their most notable record. Caroline Crawley was particularly good on that one, and, Deal / Donnelly drop in to represent 4AD's American rock contingent.

Speaking of This Mortal Coil, anyone have thoughts on the Hope Blister, Ivo's new This Mortal Coil-type project? Or -- since I always associate the two -- Violet Indiana, Robin Guthrie's new Cocteau Twins-type project? The men of 4AD soldier on despite growing indifference . . . good or bad?

Nitsuh, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm a twins fan but I never heard this group although I know people used to confuse them with CTX and IVO dodn't do a good job of letting people knwo they weren't

Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i just thought it sounded like devotional music- a real sense of foreboding but calm too.

liliya, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Best TMC CD: the disc of originals (Roy Harper, Tim Buckley, Pearls Before Swine, etc) that comes with the 83-91 box-set. Sad, but true.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Look again liliya, I mentioned Song to the siren on that 4AD thread which battles it out with the Detroit Emeralds feel the need in me as my #1 record. It'll end in tears is definitely worth searching out,. The version of Big Star's Kangaroo is even bleaker and desolate than the original which takes some going.

Billy Dods, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...
How may I ask do you guys get past the lisp?

Clarke B., Monday, 7 April 2003 23:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it like a Django Reinhart "Listen how crazy he can play and can you believe he only has three fingers" thing?

Clarke B., Monday, 7 April 2003 23:50 (twenty-three years ago)

True, the disc of originals is wonderful, but the whole (1983-1991) Box is worthy (and beautiful). If i had to pick one, though, it'd be Filgree & Shadow.

christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah Filigree & Shadow is the shit. It's got my fave TMC moment, with the cover of 'Come Here my Love', which is also probably the spookiest music I've ever heard
For some reason I've often heard 'I want to live' (can't remember if that's the title) in restaurants, bars, etc. Pretty incongruous..

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 13:21 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't do anything but giggle at the Engrish in the original post.

David Allen, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Jonesy was very right way upthread there.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 19:11 (twenty-three years ago)

four years pass...

The This Mortal Coil's interpretation of Pieter Nooten & Michael Brooks' "Several Times" has a place in my top 10 favorite songs ever. So fucking gorgeous. The part where, whichever Rutkowski sister it is, has her voice fall and break, and then the overdub comes in. . . Jesus. Jesus.

andi, Sunday, 16 September 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, I'd forgotten about that one. Good call.

Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 05:18 (eighteen years ago)

Whereas TMC's cover of "Drugs" is utter, utter shit.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 17 September 2007 09:01 (eighteen years ago)

So bad in fact that it put me off listening to them for 10 years.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 17 September 2007 09:01 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

That original versions compilation is simply amazing.

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

and it makes you realise how lame TMC usually were (with only a couple of exceptions)

electricsound, Thursday, 11 October 2007 05:23 (eighteen years ago)

Ahem.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 October 2007 05:23 (eighteen years ago)

Ahem indeed! Their version of "Come here my love" is awesome for starters.

Trayce, Thursday, 11 October 2007 05:30 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah that cover is probably my favorite. ANyway, I wasn't comparing the originals with the covers, just thrilled at how well that compilation plays out.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 11 October 2007 06:45 (eighteen years ago)

with only a couple of exceptions

yeah, like the whole first album!

sleeve, Thursday, 11 October 2007 06:49 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

I've been listening to Laura Nyro's "New York Tendaberry" lately and something about the piano in that reminded me of a track off This Mortal Coil's "Filigree & Shadow" - specifically "Ivy & Neet". Filigree & Shadow is like the younger brother/sister though to "It'll End In Tears" and I admit I don't pull it out very often. Now that I have, though, it's hard to find a whole lot of fault with it. I pull out "Blood" even less frequently i.e. never.

Anyway I could have sworn I tried to download that original versions comp some years back but I don't know what happened.

Bimble, Saturday, 19 April 2008 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

If and when I ever revisit This Mortal Coil, "Filigree and Shadow" is inevitably my first choice. Great record to put on when everyone's smashed and you want them to stfu and crash out.

onimo, Saturday, 19 April 2008 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

hahahah!

This is weird cause this CD seems like it's been on forever and yet I know every song in and out and can't seem to turn it off. It's too long though isn't it? That was the one thing I was going to say and didn't.

Bimble, Saturday, 19 April 2008 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

There's a fair bit of padding in there but the high points (such as "I want to live") are stunning.

onimo, Sunday, 20 April 2008 00:00 (eighteen years ago)

yes they bloody well are

Bimble, Sunday, 20 April 2008 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

Unfolding the CD sleeve for the first time in eons! Good old fashioned 4AD design baby!

Bimble, Sunday, 20 April 2008 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

You don't get that shit with mp3's, people. We've lost something here.

Bimble, Sunday, 20 April 2008 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

According to http://loki23.blogspot.com/2010/05/this-mortal-coil-dreampop-supergroup-4.html :

New This Mortal Coil album on the way from 4AD, tracklist and artists as follows:

1) See Emily Play (Pink Floyd) Vocals by Scott Walker and Matt Berninger, music by Serena-Maneesh featuring Efterklang
2) The Dreamer Is Still Asleep - accappella mix (Coil) Vocals by Justin Vernon and Ariel Pink
3) Tattoo (Siouxsie and The Banshees) - Vocals by Bradford Cox, music by Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffitti featuring Noah Lennox
4) L'hôtel particulier (Serge Gainsbourg) - Vocals by Annie Clark, music by Gang Gang Dance and Efterklang
5) Kansas (Wolfgang Press) - Vocals by Ariel Pink, music by Haunted Graffitti featuring TV On The Radio
6) I Feel Love (Donna Summer) - Vocals by Anni Rossi and Annie Clark, music by Serena-Maneesh featuring Efterklang
7) Thief (Can) - Vocals by Elvira Nikolaisen, music by The Big Pink featuring Gang Gang Dance
8) God Only Knows (The Beach Boys) - Vocals by Matt Berninger, Annie Clark, Anni Rossi, Ariel Pink, Scott Walker and Elvira Nikolaisen, music by This Mortal Coil.

StanM, Saturday, 15 May 2010 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

Hmm, not sure about this. Always loved the haunting vocals on the TMC albums and without Dominic Appleton, Louise & Deirdre Rutowski and Caroline Crawley this might fall flat. Scott Walker or no.

anagram, Saturday, 15 May 2010 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

Does it share any artists at all with the original TMC albums?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 15 May 2010 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

None of the names above are on them AFAIK.

anagram, Saturday, 15 May 2010 21:24 (sixteen years ago)

I was mainly thinking of Ivo Watts-Russell and John Fryer, without whom it seems somewhat silly to even call it This Mortal Coil.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 15 May 2010 21:57 (sixteen years ago)

This is very confusing. So, basically, we get one track from This Mortal Coil and seven other tracks with...other people. I guess there's the vague connective tissue that all of these artists are on 4AD, but mid-80s/early-90s 4AD and current 4AD are completely different beasts. Not that I'm not intrigued at the Berninger/Walker track.

Simon H., Saturday, 15 May 2010 22:29 (sixteen years ago)

I'm not really sure I believe this.

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 15 May 2010 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

A friend of mine knows Ivo.

Ivo says it's a spoof, though he did ask Scott Walker to sing on a track back in the day.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 16 May 2010 01:49 (sixteen years ago)

You know Bono and he knows Eno and he knows Ivo's phone goes thus?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 16 May 2010 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

More or less. Actually quite less, but for arguments sake we'll say more.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 16 May 2010 02:15 (sixteen years ago)

Note to self: stop believing everything.

Simon H., Sunday, 16 May 2010 03:07 (sixteen years ago)

I hope this doesn't mean the Disco Inferno 5 EPs release is a hoax too.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 16 May 2010 03:55 (sixteen years ago)

would love to see this happening

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 16 May 2010 20:46 (sixteen years ago)

In theory, this could be a really neat collaborative project... just doesn't make sense under the TMC name.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 16 May 2010 22:24 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

...really sorry... the post was supposed to be a kind of thought experiment.... This Mortal Coil could exist like this though couldn't it? I don't see why a new TMC couldn't emerge... even one with no members of the original... if Ivo was putting it together, orchestrating it...

loki23, Thursday, 10 June 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)

I dunno, I think the time has passed. A covers album by 4AD artists might be good, but it wouldn't be This Mortal Coil.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 10 June 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

Only is they got the Stars of the Lid people to provide interstitial material a la Blood.

Simon H., Thursday, 10 June 2010 18:34 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

New, very tempting box set out now with remastered versions of all three albums and adds a bonus disc with the tracks off of the singles and, er, one new song.

http://www.4ad.com/releases/20970

Blood is still my favourite of the three.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:02 (fourteen years ago)

four years pass...

Posting here to say that Caroline Crawley of Shelleyan Orphan, who guested on later TMC tracks (and often very powerfully) has sadly passed on.

https://youtu.be/AwCp6RuQsZc

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 20:13 (nine years ago)

Aw, man. Her vocal on "Mr. Somewhere" helped to make that one of my first favorite songs.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 October 2016 21:42 (nine years ago)

What happened to her?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 21:54 (nine years ago)

one year passes...

The albums seem to have been re-pressed on CD & vinyl.

djh, Monday, 3 September 2018 20:57 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2012/07/05/this-mortal-coil-blu-ray-tears-dropbox/

Bluray of all the albums out in, er, 2010.

did Dust & Guitars, the compilation (and meant to be included above), ever surface? it has a discogs entry with lots of artwork, but it only mentions 'files' and not any physical formats.

https://www.discogs.com/This-Mortal-Coil-Dust-Guitars/release/3734328

koogs, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:39 (five years ago)

oh, found a copy of dust and guitars for sale on a little, obscure place called Amazon.

koogs, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:41 (five years ago)

that's curious. did i blank this from my mind because i had a lot of it anyway? anyway, available lossless from boomkat so...

(also just found out that google have stopped selling digital music file and google play music is now youtube music streaming. which is a pity because they had a knack for mispricing things.)

koogs, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:52 (five years ago)

Yeah, it was part of the box but never meant to be a stand alone, I think.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:52 (five years ago)

4AD sold a few copies of Dust and Guitars by itself around the time the box set was released, I think only directly from 4AD.com

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 17:59 (five years ago)

THIS MORTAL COIL
Dust & Guitars
Cat No: EAD3X23A
Release date: 11 August 2020

ok, so not going completely mad then - it's only been avilable digitally 3 months.

koogs, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 18:12 (five years ago)


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