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metal bands?
industrial shit?

mayhem?
metallica?
slayer?

fat kids in sweatpants with acne?

― sarah, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, back in the days I was playin' AD&D (that's ADVANCED Dungeons & Dragons to you, Sarah!), it was pretty much a steady diet of Dynasty by Kiss.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Rush!

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, Rush.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

All the D&Dplaying friends I had were into synthpop. S.P.O.C.K. and stuff like that.

i always thought D&D fans would be into rubbish like Pendragon though!

― Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Definitely Rush.

― Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Rush?
atrocious.

Atleast it's not Yanni.

― __sarah, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Placebo

― dave q, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Styx, "Lord of the Rings"!

― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

floyd maybe?

― christina, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Led Zepplin too, how could we have missed that?

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

HI SARAH

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Led Zepplin was the coke usage got out of hand, you need something with more power once you finished the 2L bottle off (or 735ml as the case may be).

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Amon Duul(vers 1 or 2)?

heh.

i dunno--how many other bands make direct Tolkien refs?

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

In high school, I'd sort of hoped that the RPG kids (which I never was) would be into prog and metal so a) they'd fulfil a hilarious stereotype and b) I'd have someone to talk about some of that stuff with and trade tapes with (not that I knew a lot about it or anything) but they never were. If they were into music, they sang along to the Spin Doctors and Moxy Fruvous and the Barenaked Ladies. Then they met girls, started wearing black and playing Masquerade, and listened to the Cure and Nine Inch Nails.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Jon! xo

I really thought it was a totally METALHEAD-like hobby.

― __sarah, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Sundar sadly OTM

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

NIN/The cure?

sounds like art fags/teen goths.

― unsarah, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

The only serious metalhead at my high school (he was in writer's club with me) was too freaky to have enough friends to play D&D with.

Say what you will about them D&D nerds, they do have friends, they do participate in somewhat social activities, which is more than I can say for myself.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i dunno--how many other bands make direct Tolkien refs?
-- Kingfish (jdsalmo...) (webmail), June 10th, 2003 4:51 PM. (
Kingfish) (later) (link)

FORCEFIELD, MINDFLAYER, LIGHTNING BOLT

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

all the D&D'rs I knew hit up punk rock and hardcore early on. We were full of anger. When we graduated to Battletech and Cyperbunk 2020 and such I started making everybody listen to The Orb and FSOL and Aphex Twin and random German compilations.

― Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

hey! i'm not saying that! i date an ex d&d kid, i know.
however, the metalheads when i was in school were sort of quiet, kept to themselves.. liked black jeans and said very little.

― sarah mccormick (unsarah), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i want to write a song called 'Slain By An Elf'

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Millar = OTM (well the first two sentences anyway... although being quite a bit older than he i may have a different idea of punk rock and hardcore).

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 20:21 (twenty-two years ago)

it was all about NIN and TMBGs for me. thank the lord for 2 johns and twenty sided dice.

― Brock K. (Brock K.), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

All the D&D'ers that I knew were total metalheads. Iced Earth, Maiden, Meshuggah, etc. etc.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Can I just say how glad I am that this thread is not, as I originally misread, "Dungeons and Dragons: THE MUSICAL"?

(Though I do think Styx was warming up for it -- hell, maybe they are still.)

― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Shatner's The Ballad Of Bilbo Baggins.

Most of the D&D (and RPGs in general) heads I know are either into: a) synthpop / goth dance / post-industrial, a la Sisters Of Mercy, Love & Rockets, Skinny Puppy. b) metal, punk, and hardcore, a la In Flames, NOFX, occasionally Helloween. c) Warp and ambient house, a la FSOL, The Orb, Aphex Twin, Reload. d) popo music of various and assorted types, a la Tortoise, Black Dice, and the occasional dash of prog.

This classifies every person I've ever known who was into RPGs and music. I've been a gamer way too long.

― Xii (Xii), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

HELOOOOOO!??!?! Bolthrower? Manowar? anyone?

Also we listened to the Conan the Barbarian score while playing; it was great battle music.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

when i was in high school, D&D was almost exclusively the domain of we metalheads. only one of them was a rush fan (and he's the only one who, cough cough, still plays), the rest were into iron maiden and thrash metal.

if i were to play D&D today the soundtrack would be bo hansson, ash ra tempel, the nazgul, mindflayer, comus, diabolus - nerdy d&d themed music and english folk/prog. maybe throw some enslaved in there.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Urusei Yatsura had a shit song called 'Slain By Elf' didn't they?

― Ferg (Ferg), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

The correct answer is of course, Summoning.
http://www.napalmrecords.com/graphix/feature/summoning/cov.jpg http://breversa.free.fr/img/minasmorgul.jpg

― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

some of the melodies on "minas morgul" seem like they're lifted from showtunes, i swear. still a great album.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 07:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Although this isn't from a D&D book, I'll show anyways as a public service announcement:
Cyberpunk Soundtracks The underlying principle of cyberpunk fiction — struggle — is also the theme of many different forms of music. The GM who wishes to set the mood (whether to run a game or work up the next week's play session) can turn to any of a number of styles, depending on the effect sought. Heavy Metal — the prototypical cyberpunk music, in great part because the musicians take great pains to appear as if they've crawled out of an urban jungle. Appropriate groups include Metallica, Motorhead, Guns n' Roses, Judas Priest, AC/DC, Skrewdriver or Venom. Punk — the original off-the-wall, rene- gade sound. If the room is large enough, encourage the players to slam-dance a bit. Try the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, Skinny Puppy, Tuff Darts, the Big Boys, the Cir- cle Jerks or Black Flag, Rap — the music of the urban resis- tance. Some groups concentrate on rebel- lious antiauthoritarian lyrics, while others espouse the violent overthrow of the U.S. government. Groups to grab include Pub- lic Enemy, NWA, anyone with Boogie Down Productions and 2 Live Crew. Reggae — the sound of the Rastafarian struggle. Bob Marley is a must; others in- clude Peter Tosh, Ziggy Marley, King Yellowman, Jimmy Cliff and Aswad. Technorock — this is a very high-tech, synthesized sound that fits in well with working on the Net. Good examples are Devo, the An of Noise, Rick Wakeman, INXS, Thomas Dolby and Kraftwerk. New Age — No struggle here, but many New Age composers use complex themes and electronic instruments, evoking a bod- iless drift through cyberspace. Try Kitaro, Andreas Vollenweider, Phillip Glass and Tomita. Electronic renditions of Bach also fill the bill. Angst Rock — Artsy music for those who wear black. This is music to be alien- ated by — dress up, get depressed, take drugs and die! Appropriate examples in- clude X, Velvet Underground, Sonic Youth, New Order, Brian Eno, Siouxie and the Banshees and Lou Reed.

- from GURPS Cyberpunk

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

heh. GURPS.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah. Great system...cheesy name.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)

GURPS was fucking great.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

CAN I PLEASE ASK WHAT "GOTH DANCE" MUSIC IS?

― sarah mccormick (unsarah), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)

DARKWAVE DUDE

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Jon: GURPS was fucking great.
ain't no "was" about it. They're still goin' strong.

sarah: CAN I PLEASE ASK WHAT "GOTH DANCE" MUSIC IS?
music for chicks dressed like Siouxsie to do the slow-motion my-arms-are-snake neo-egyptian wiggle dance to.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

The thing with GURPS is... I don't have the time/motivation to being a GM. And frankly, I'm not nerdy enough. If I could find a tolerable GM, I'd love to play some.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

My problem was people kept asking ME to be GM. It got tiresome.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, one wishes D&Ders would be into prog, but it never works out
that way. The ones I know (they're still everywhere, y'know)
are into charting metal and rock.

― masta ace, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

GURPS was a great idea, i just could never get into it. for me it was straight advanced D&D (1st ed), gamma world (1st ed), and a little bit of top secret (1st ed) and marvel super heroes early on. really, actually, i never played anything much, i was more into the idea of the whole nerdy thing.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm. This thread has gone waaaaay off. Maybe we should start a new thread in ILE and work on this.
(sorry about the thread hijack, sarah...we now return you to your music thread, already in progress.)

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

NOW YOU KILLED IT.

THANKS A LOT!

― sarah mccormick (unsarah), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

man all the gamestore kids nowadays listen to J-pop and anime soundtracks while they shuffle. Ain't no dice to it, man. Fuckin' otaku-ass bitches.

― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

NOW YOU KILLED IT.
THANKS A LOT!
Well, it's all part of my occult studies. I've been trying for months the master the "Slay Thread" spell.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

yea fuck those Magic the Gathering card playing, Dance Dance Revolution, Playstation 2 weenies

20 sided dice and atari 4 life bitches

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard the D&D inventor is an inetresting guy atleast..

"INTERESTING"

― sarah mccormick (unsarah), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

GYGAX TO THREAD!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I met'im. Back in, like, 1980, my father was a writer/reporter for FORBES magazine, and he did a little write-up on Gary Gygax's TSR empire, and I got to tag along like an irritating fanboy (which, of course, i was). Gygax and company were every bit the geeky goonsquad you'd expect them to be (tho' they were quite nice to me).

If I'm not mistaken, Gygax later sold all his holdings in TSR and somehow went utterly pennyless due to some bad business decisions. Pretty sad, actually. Wonder what happened to cats like Erol Otus and Jeff Dee (fellow recovering gamers may recognize those names).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

AND POSTS ON ILX ALL DAY

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

You are kidding!

― sarah mccormick (unsarah), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Me? What end would it serve?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

no, he means gygax! dude

― Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

The roleplayers I knew were into industrial and metal.

I grew up playing wargames with my dad and his friends - Napoleonics, American Civil War and some ancients, mostly. And Battletech - I liked Battletech mostly because the minis were large enough for me to paint. D&Ders were mostly looked down upon, though nowadays I wouldn't even try to claim that redoing Shiloh with every unit that was there on terrain that matched the battle perfect is any less nerdy than being a 10th level halfling elf.

I sold off two comic boxes worth of Battletech sourcebooks earlier this year on Ebay. People will pay crazy prices for 3025-era books.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd play "Divine Right" again in a heartbeat....although the only friend of mine who would be interested just moved to Tokyo, alas.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

No, the jk was to Gygax posting on here, that amuses me.

― sarah mccormick (unsarah), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

goddamn LARP

― sarah mccormick (unsarah), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, is "gygax!" really Gygax or not? (I mean, jeez, how many people in the world are named Gygax?)

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I kinda doubt it....the actual Gary Gygax was pretty well into his mid-to-late 40's (at least) when I met him at the dawn of the 80's, so I can't imagine he'd spend his time posting here.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I grew up playing wargames with my dad and his friends - Napoleonics, American Civil War [...] D&Ders were mostly looked down upon [...]

oh, come on - the wargamers were the biggest scary losers around, the only people D&Ders would mock. scary, scary guys who LIVED at the game store and were always building fuckin' sand tables to move their little tanks around on.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 23:09 (twenty-two years ago)

"I mean, jeez, how many people in the world are named Gygax?"

Probably the same number of people in the world who are named Lord Custos Epsilon...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone call for a stereotype?

Lots and lots of Rush (the Official Band Of D&D Nerds everwhere, apparently), lots of Yes, and more or less: King Crimson, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Jethro Tull (Songs from the Wood, especially), the Conan the Barbarian Soundtrack, the Blade Runner Soundtrack, and Dark Side of the Moon. Our DM also had a thing for Tangerine Dream and one of our half-elven fighter magic-users was a Lynyrd Skynyrd freak.

― Paul Ess, Thursday, 12 June 2003 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, come on - the wargamers were the biggest scary losers around, the only people D&Ders would mock. scary, scary guys who LIVED at the game store and were always building fuckin' sand tables to move their little tanks around on.
Eh, these were a different type - just as geeky, not so much scary. Mostly middle-aged, with kids my age (now college or thereabouts, pre-teen then), professors/teachers/writers. Not the game-store types.

The Battletech crowd fit your description, though. All the worst elements of miniature fetishism with the hygiene of a roleplayer stereotype.

The only group I ever had a problem with was live-action roleplayers. I worked merchandise tables at some gaming conventions, and invariably Vampire roleplayers would pull a fire alarm at three in the morning.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 12 June 2003 04:44 (twenty-two years ago)

A friend and I worked out the whole gamergeek hierachy one night. Historical minature wargamers were at the top. LARPer's were at the bottom. Even the "Yu-gi-Oh!" kids beat them.

As far as music goes, Iron Maiden still makes me want to go crawl in a dungeon.

― Scott Stanley, Thursday, 12 June 2003 05:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Very soon, June 14th, the Blood Brothers will be headling a DUNGEONS & DRAGONS PROM at Graceland, Seattle... yes a D&D themed prom.. with all the fixings, like king and queen, best photo contest, etc.

No date required, but for all you wizards and warriors.. ROCK and HUZZAH!

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 12 June 2003 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott's heirarchy is totally OTM. But how does Car Wars fit in?

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 12 June 2003 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Probably the same number of people in the world who are named Lord Custos Epsilon...
There was exactly 23 of us. We had a war. I'm the only survivor.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 12 June 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott's heirarchy is totally OTM. But how does Car Wars fit in?

i like to think we they would be near the top. to think of the dozens of hours i spent playing autoduel on my apple ][ clone, storming through exotic cities like trenton, providence and philadelphia.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 12 June 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah GURPS players over AD&D

Warhammer is on par with GURPS and that stuff I assume.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 12 June 2003 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Are White Wolf "story telling" games one step above LARPing?

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 12 June 2003 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Half a step.

― adam (adam), Thursday, 12 June 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I figured thee answer to this would be sword & sorcery metal like dio & rainbow, obv I am wrong.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 12 June 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre400/e454/e45440qwjlu.jpg
A Possible Answer.
[Note: Not recommended if the soundtrack is as notoriously bad as the notoriously wretched movie.]

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

though "Entering Profions Dungeon" just screams "RICK...WAKEMAN!"

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

warhammer people are the most frightening I've ever met of the whole bunch. I mean that kind of disposable income, devoted to that kind of hobby- it frightens me.

Currently I think the HeroClix guys must be around the very bottom, perhaps just above Yu-Gi-Oh. Magic The Gathering and such have moved up from the bottom to somewhere near the middle, but they still spend way too much money and non-playing time on it. With pencil & paper RPG gamers and the old-school Battletech people I think there's at least a better tradeoff - you buy a few books and visit Kinko's a couple of times and there you go, that's all you need really. Serious miniatures gamers, like the ones who would go out and buy appropriately-scaled model railroad forestry and buildings, always struck me as insane.

Then again, I have a 1200-CD barrister that is filled to bursting with dub techno shite and etcetera.

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Serious miniatures gamers, like the ones who would go out and buy appropriately-scaled model railroad forestry and buildings, always struck me as insane.

Or insanely rich.

One of the guys I played with was an art restorer, and had a 1,000+ square-foot space attached to his office building that was terrain storage and playing area. The terrain tables were built in 5x5 sections so you could get make battlefields as large as you wanted, and still get to the middle. There were months-long games that just stayed setup.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 12 June 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I think we all learned a little something with this thread.

― sarah mccormick (unsarah), Friday, 13 June 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Filk Fun Time!
Sing this to the tune of "Jingle Bells"

"Ring Their Bells, or, The Munchkin's Carol" by the Sea Wasp

"Slashing through the Orcs/ With a good two-handed blade Over corpses we go/ And through the gore we wade Mace on helmet rings/ Making bodies fly What fun to sing our SLAYING song/ And watch these suckers die!

Chorus: Oh, ring their bells with swords and spells/ Don't let 'em get away! We're brave and bold for fame and gold/ We'll make a lot today! Oh, ring their bells with swords and spells/ Don't let 'em get away! We'll hack and slash and blast and trash/ And blow these dudes away!

Crashing through the door/ Into the dragon's nose Our mage whips out a Cone of Cold/ And out its fire goes! Elven bowstrings sing/ Making balrogs fall And our thief finds a secret door/ Into the treasure hall!

(Chorus)

Then appears the Lich/ With his demon guard Our wizard yawns and wishes/ We'd run into something HARD... He begins to cast/ His 19th level spell That damn Lich throws a Gate at us/ And drops us all in Hell!

(Chorus)

We appear in Hell/ In front of Satan's Throne Our cleric waves us out the door/ And takes him on alone! Satan's legions don't/ Want to let us go Our Techno pulls a bazooka out/ And NUKES 'em 'til they GLOW!

Oh, ring their bells with prayers and spells/ Don't let 'em get away! We're brave and bold and CRAZED, we're told/ To think we'll live the day! Oh, ring their bells with swords and shells/ Don't let 'em get away! We'll hack and slash and blast and trash/ And blow these dudes away! Yes, we'll hack and slash and blast and trash And drag our loot away!!

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 13 June 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

sarah: wanna larp on saturday?

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)

jon, hahah.
there is a PRIME spot in RI i hear..
however, i'm going to see Brian Wilson for free in boston saturday.
HE WILL PLAY PET SOUNDS.

― sarah mccormick (unsarah), Friday, 13 June 2003 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

U FAG SARAH QUINN IS COMING

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 13 June 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

fifteen years pass...

https://fief.bandcamp.com/album/ii

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:49 (seven years ago)

the sdtk to my group's recent sessions has been either horror/western soundtracks (Morricone, Goblin, etc.) or 70s metal

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 22:59 (seven years ago)

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