electic dj skillz: classic or dud

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i dunno - what do you think of:

dj's who drop in mad stuff - like psychedelic, francoise hardy, northern soul, film soundtracks.

what are thoughts of film dialgue dropped - a dj cheat to make the audience think along certain lines, or classic?

personally, i prefer djs not to play the same thud thud thud electronica but show a knowledge of musical skillz. what say you god people?

― doom-e, Thursday, 12 June 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw dj disk (one of the original 5 skratch pikklz) 5-6 years ago and he mixed in bits of gregg turkington's great phone calls (i remember distinctly "pickle potato"). it was relatively obscure at the time (to be fair, this was in SF) but those who caught the ref had big smiles.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 12 June 2003 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: dj's who drop in mad stuff

e.g Jon Brooks from King of Woolworths !

Other great eclectic DJs, Andrew Weatherall, Trevor Jackson.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 12 June 2003 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

yair it's fucking classic mate. I've been doing some mixes in ACID Pro. My best one so far had everything from Faith No More to the Flamigos to SL2 and they all blended together quite nicely. I hate this attitude of "I listen to Deep Hard Trance but I've been digging Deep Melodic Trance recently too". I mean, who wants to go to a club and listen to the same fucking tune all night?

― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 12 June 2003 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

look out for Brave Captain who seem to like to cram as many references and tunes across the board into their mixes, obv. a lot of the Ninja stable have been big into it for years (Coldcut, Strictly Kev, DJ Food). i do generally like to hear a fairly broad mix of stuff/genres...which DJs play psychedelic, francoise hardy, northern soul, film soundtracks all in the same set tho???

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 12 June 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

what about dancers: what do you think of this technique? I know people who hate eclectic. they just wanna dance.

― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 12 June 2003 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

in general,people playing a specific form of dance music should stick to it,i think
techno in particular should sound like infinite loops patterns of sound with no beginning,middle or end
people like dj rupture are great as well though,but i'd consider it a different style of music

― robin (robin), Thursday, 12 June 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I want only one thing at a time, but I want that only one thing to change every 30 minutes or so.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Friday, 13 June 2003 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

As for the question: which DJs play psychedelic, francoise hardy, northern soul, film soundtracks all in the same set?

1 answer: David Holmes!

― derekb, Friday, 13 June 2003 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)

classic. I'm bored after 10 minutes of one sound

― phil jones (interstar), Friday, 13 June 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

It all depends on your audience: if it has a short attention span, you NEED to play an eclectic set. But it also needs to have a broad taste - it isn't that hard to think of a cool mix with, say, hiphop, funk, rock and all sorts of dance music. But you're asking a lot of your audience...not everybody present will be an eclectic über-hipster who will enjoy everything. Eclectic DJing will always exist but will also always remain a niche - the audience for it is very limited.

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 13 June 2003 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

mainly dud. *ooh look at my vast knowledge* meanwhile everyone thinks your a tit. its a good idea in theory but after years yearning for this and doing this sort of stuff i have come to the conclusion that it is dodgy ground indeed. too much of an ego boost for the dj to show off just how wacky and off the wall he is, whilst for the punters it just becomes a game of spot the crazy reference. not saying it cant be done well, but i'm down with mike taylor on this. i want 30 mins garage, 30 street rap, 30 of gabba, 30 of dub, 30 of (microhouse etc etc. the chances of ever going to night like this seem slim. the nearest was the lemon jelly night at the 333, the impotenet fury one, where they span a wheel marked with different genres and tgen HAd to play for 30 mins whatever the genre was. the best one was dodgy house covers, which included 'smells like teen spirit' and 'walking in the air' with a ropey 4/4 behind it and some trancey synths.

― ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 13 June 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the 30m for each style approach too, but the obvious way to achieve that is to go to any big festival and casually hop from the techno tent to the hardstyle room to the chillout area to the drum 'n bass basement. I do that all the time...

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 13 June 2003 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

30 minutes of gabba? sweet lord!

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 13 June 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

ah now you need a good few hours of gabber for it to be worth it in fairness

― robin (robin), Friday, 13 June 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)

when did djing become less about dancing and having a good time and more about thud-thud-thud of elecronica? david holmes is an ace dj 'cause i have attention deficient disorder and i get bloody bored of teh same type of music, over and over again..

― doom-e, Friday, 13 June 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Because surprisingly, millions of people are having a great time dancing to thud-thud-thud electronic music.

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 13 June 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't mind some thud thud thud music. I have some thud-thud-thud music. But variance beyond fashion will always interest me more.

― doom-e, Friday, 13 June 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

YOU WILL ALL BOW TO THE IMPERIAL PULSE OF THE THROBBING 909 KICK, FUCKERS!

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Friday, 13 June 2003 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

YOUR MISSION RENEGADE TECHNO AGENT 186: UPHOLD THE BASS, REPORT TO THE DANCEFLOOR

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 13 June 2003 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

They're only good if they play all this stuff AT THE SAME TIME

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 14 June 2003 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Obviously both eclectic and purist can be great or awful depending on the DJ. The only thing that's dud beyond all duds is when DJs trumpet how versatile/eclectic/broad-minded they are and then play sets that are in fact stylistically/ideologically quite narrow (the ideology "shakeyerbootyism" is an exception of course) - eg. "oh yeah I play a bit of prog, a bit of techno, a bit of trance, a bit of breaks, all types of music really" --> "I put on Sasha's album and just let it run."

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 14 June 2003 05:00 (twenty-two years ago)

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