Mano Negra, "Mala Vida"

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(this could possibly the first of various, ranty, kinda drunk "i love this song" threads i will start; bear with me... these things are in fashoin anyway)

I've been posting to ILM for years now. At 15 years of age in late 2000, I was once the youngest poster on ILM, but lack of online self-confidence prevented me from ever becoming one of the "regulars". I've gone on a few vacations since then, but I've always assumed no one missed me, so please prove me wrong here.
I just got back from 10 days in Sunny Costa Rica -- god it's great not being in America. I know, there's so much liberal/pseudo-liberal garbage attached to being the "I'm so sick of this country" guy, but it's true. There's nothing I could've enjoyed more than spending a week around people who are not from Indiana (where I've lived all my 18 years) -- but there's just too much truth attached to seeing how people live in other parts of the world these days. Every where you go, there are signs saying "paz" & "bush es murderoso" (i forget the actual adjective right now for 'murderous', SUE ME!), and you see so many things you just don't see in America. I mean, poverty is a problem here -- there are homeless, people are starved -- but we're all just, I don't know, fat in comparison. So I have this sense that nationalism is disgusting and BOOO!! GET THE FUCK OUT REPUBLICAN TAKE ALL MY TAXES IF YOU WAN'EM, but when the average Latino critiques liberal politics and and waves a flag in my face, I can't complain, because... it just seems like.. they're the people in this world who really matter. So much realer.... My brother spent a night drinking with some local guy he met at a bar, shooting the shit about music (they were both students of the double-bass in university) and the night ends with this guy buying him a round of shots. "What is this?" my brother asks. "Guara! (sp?)" "How is it?" "It tastes like SHEEEET, man!", the Costa Rican punk rocker tells him, so, of course, he asks "Why the hell are we drinking it?" BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING COSTA RICAN, MAN! ::Bottoms Up::

I just have to question everything I know when I experience things like this. So, Mano Negra is a Spanish act, but AMG and any mag you will read labels it "Rock en Espanol", like all the Latin American guitar music (MTV Latin America, by the way, is ALL ABOUT THE ROCK, and it's really fun and entertaining), despite its coming from across the globe. And this is my tendency as a white American - to lump this in with everyone from Los Aterciopelados to fucking Mana - but I know it's not right. So I sit in a bar in downtown San Jose, or a train stop in Chicago, or a bar-b-q in Lebanon, Indiana and I wonder just who-the-fuck I'm question with these liberal politics, and I feel this song, which feels somehow very important - as I know it was to a lot of people, though It's just a relationship song from what I understand about a shitty girlfriend. It rocks me in every way, basically. I think about the way my whitebread ass just listens to this crazy moonspeak indiscriminately - it's all latin rock man - and I then, surely, I'm putting too much thought into it --- IT'S FUCKING LATIN ROCK, MAN! I hear my new Costa Rican friend say.... oh fuck it what's the difference between any of us. Why do I worry about whether I'm doing shots with a Costa Rican or an straight-up Red Neck, and why do I worry about whether ILM missed me while I was gone??


Also: the horns are perfect.

Adam A. (Keiko), Sunday, 15 June 2003 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

"Dime tu porque te trato yo tan bien
Cuando tu me hablas como a un cabrón"


This song is punk as fuck. If I were more than four years old when it first came out I'd be wearing a shirt that says "mano negra theonly band that matters."

Adam A. (Keiko), Sunday, 15 June 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

What I want from this thread is for someone to tell me that this song changed there life.

Adam A. (Keiko), Sunday, 15 June 2003 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)

1...2...MIC CHECK...

Francis Watlington, Sunday, 15 June 2003 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahahhahha...K...
*ahem*

I didn't want to go through the trouble of registering right about now (I'm feeling a very nice shade of lazy, brudda man). As for who am I (Petey Pab, muthafug!), I'm a lurker who discovered ILM by chance a couple of months ago. And I must say that within, I've found all that makes me joyously excited about music, and adversely, everything I hate about it. Thus, I love ILM/ilxor. And I can't help it. So yes, this is the first time I've posted on here. Let it be my love letter to youse, child of the Intraweb. No butterflies here as I already feel part of the family (if I may be so daring). So yes, please be gentle, I'm ranting like a muthafug. I've been stoned since yesterday and I just want to let Adam know he is not alone, goddammit! I love "Mala Vida"! Thank you and to all a good night!

Francis Watlington, Sunday, 15 June 2003 02:54 (twenty-two years ago)

So does that make me the token stoner or wha?! 'Cuz I KNOW I missed a couple of letters here and there!

Francis Watlington, Sunday, 15 June 2003 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)

If memory serves me well...this one's from the heart...

Tú me estás dando mala vida
Yo pronto me voy a escapar
Gitana mía por lo menos date cuenta
Gitana mía, por favor
Tú no me dejas ni respira'
Tú me estás dando
MALA VIDA

¡Cada día se la traga mi corazón!
Etc...

Francis Watlington, Sunday, 15 June 2003 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

MTV Latin America is all about chart-pop by the way, thats why i watch it so much

Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Sunday, 15 June 2003 05:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Aren't they all!

Francis Watlington, Sunday, 15 June 2003 05:12 (twenty-two years ago)

no all other mtvs are about rubbish actual shows where MTVLA basically only shows videos all the time

Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Sunday, 15 June 2003 05:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Welcome token stoner!!

Chupa, I only saw a, like, two hour show of rock videos and their TRLesque show, which featured, approximately, 5 latin rock videos and 5 videos you would see on MTV America. The other 21 hours = chart pop?

Adam A. (Keiko), Sunday, 15 June 2003 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)

The horns are perfect. That whole album is really a major high point. Someday it'll get its due.

But it seems like you're posting about more than Mala Vida. There's this whole American guilt trip there. That's cool, I'm sympathetic, but I don't really think guilt trips are gonna get us anywhere. Learning to speak Spanish would be a better move all the way around. (no, I don't speak it, I'm just saying...)

JesseFox (JesseFox), Sunday, 15 June 2003 05:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, thanks for picking up on that, haha. The plan was to post about what brought me to the song, then come back to it with how I've been enjoying it. Got distracted, though.

I've been learning Spanish, actually, for a few years. I was a pretty confident scholar, but this trip really put it in perspective for me. Sure, I can communicate with my teacher or watch a movie with Spanish subtitles, but I know fuck all about conversational Spanish.

The song is so intense. Passionate rock songs aren't the type of thing I'd usually listen to on repeat, but obviously I've been feeling a bit differently lately. And anyway, it's got a bounce and rhythm that you're not going to find in Audioslave or some shit. I just wanted to know that this song was to someone else what, say, Nirvana was to me and lordknowshowmanyotherpeople.

Adam A. (Keiko), Sunday, 15 June 2003 06:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I KNOW Spanish. Does that make me cool or wha? J/K. I happen to be a native speaker. Yes, he of the name Watlington.

BTW, have any of y'all seen the Manu Chao DVD that came out everywhere but in the US? I ordered it on EBay like a month ago. It is, simply put, THE shizznit.

Francis Watlington, Sunday, 15 June 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I learned all the Spanish I know on Sesame Street. Makes me feel illiterate in New York; I know so many people who speak two or three languages. (I do speak some French, but not often.) I don't understand why all American children (at least, the ones who don't already know Spanish) aren't taught Spanish from kindergarten on. Somehow our nation has made monolingualism a point of pride.

Manu Chao's great. Sergeant Garcia is worth checking out too.

JesseFox (JesseFox), Sunday, 15 June 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

You're a good man, Jesse. :D

Francis Watlington, Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

"Well listen to the beat beat beat of the song song
It's banging in my head head head like a bongo...."

Great, GREAT stuff; the first thing that really turned me onto "Rock en Espanol" / Latin Rock; and of course you're right Adam, there isn't anyone else (at least, not that I've encountered) who sounds quite like them (and spot on with the Clash reference too I reckon - assuming it was intentional).

The nearest thing I *have* found 'though is a band from Mexico called Maldita Vecindad (.... Y Los Hijos Del Quinto Patio to give them their full name). You might want to check them out starting with their first / self-titled album and the second "El Circo" (or I believe there's also a good 2CD best of available).

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 16 June 2003 08:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but I like this song as much as I like anything by the Clash. Calling on the Clash as a personal reference point.

I'm downloading a Maldita Vecinidad song now. Thanks a lot!

Adam A. (Keiko), Monday, 16 June 2003 08:18 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're downloading one song to try 'em, go for "Pachuco" (see? even the song titles sound like Mano Negra!)

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 16 June 2003 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)

mano negra was great, and live their were like a fucking storm.
'mala vida' meant a lot to many young people over here (i'm in spain), as did 'king kong five' and many other songs. manu chao is still a demi-god over here, and his solo albums are even more popular than mano negra ever were.
by the way, although manu has spanish origins, mano negra was a french band.

joan vich (joan vich), Monday, 16 June 2003 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

This is true.

Francis Watlington, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

on the manu chao live album "radio bemba sound system" about half the album is mano negra songs and the energy level is def. 'mano negra play the music of manu chao'

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I own all 3 Manu albums and the DVD. You should really check out the DVD, though. It features that performance almost in its entirety. It's even more complete than the album. It's not available in the US, though. I got it from Canada through EBay.

Francis Watlington, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Manu Chao's 'Clandestino' probably changed my life in a similar way. It was the perfect album for a time and place for me, a time when I absolutely needed it, to reaffirm a certain idealistic worldview I had. It bounced me *like that* out of a cynicism that I had developed after returning several years earlier from a semester in Belize that was rooted and coated in a similar white liberal guilt (I guess it's what it is -- I was embarrassed and confused at being back at an expensive college with too much stuff!). In retrospect, Manu Chao sounded global at a time when I needed global, the end of a century, the shrinking by way of technology and, adversely, a choking off of communication, it seemed to me, by the powers that be. It just fit. Manu Chao represented what I thought music should sound like and be: DIY, from the ground up, effortless and full of simple truths. I have a similar (very personal) response to the Clash and a lot of early punk rock, and this kind of feeling is I think in some way why I'm obsessed about listening to records -- to locate that feeling.

I went and bought 'Puta's Fever' and it didn't do anything for me, which was a colossal disappointment at the time. I'll have to try again.

scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

We were separated at birth! ;D
Same here with "Clandestino", although my situation is quite different. But I can mos def relate. And Teh Clash are my favorite band evah. I get really defensive when people badmouth them for reasons very personal to my ideology/life philosophy. As for Mano Negra, the only records by them I have brought myself to love are the Best Of, and Casa Babylon. I'm kinda lukewarm about the rest, because in all fairness, their albums were spotty and weak compared to their live shows. They were far better as a singles band, which is why their anthology is probably their strongest set.

Francis Watlington, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd that the mano negra best of is the way to go

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, but puta's fever shouldn't be taken out of context. it might sound a bit dated now, but when it came out it was the best party album you could imagine. or so it was for me, so DON'T dis this album!!!

joan vich (joan vich), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

ay, we not hatin'! ;)

Francis Watlington, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)


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