What is/was hip-house?

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Tracer Hand, Thursday, 26 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The funny thing about hip-house is that it was actually the un-hippest house and un-hippest-hip-hop of all. Hip-hop with house beats, playful, catchy, silly choruses, nothing to say, and saying it pretty damn loud. I always think of it as the mini-pops version of rap. Think Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock (especially "Joy and Pain" and "Get on the Floor" -- the latter a great Jacksons rip), Kid 'n' Play (most hip-house haircuts), a few of the early Jungle Brothers disco-fied tracks, Marky Mark & the Funky Bunch (who blew the genre to pieces), and...I think Milli Vanilli qualify as well (at least when "they" rapped).

I definitely loved the stuff back then ('88-'91, I'd say), but I had no choice, as I was a club DJ at the time and I would get asked to play "Joy and Pain," like, *three* times some nights. Mind you, I could only ever find gigs in the un-hippest of night clubs: one was a semi-dive drinking joint in a low-rent housing area in Toronto, the other was a really lame, after-work pickup spot in the Toronto business district. So really, I'm about as hip-house as you can get. I even own a hip-house compilation album (which I just pulled out and is only about half-hip-house, or semi-hip-house).

s woods, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i don't get all the hate for epmd's too-dope 'it's time 2 party', that shit is how hip- house should sound. de la's 'kicked out the house' and the hip-house part of redman's 'i'm a bad' are fly too.

ethan, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ethan is auf das geld mit 'It's time 2 party'. Nothing wrong with that. Now Armand van Helden: the Last of the Hip-Housers?

Omar, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Kind of makes you wonder if there's ever going to be a proper epic made for those of us tragic enough to suffer from Kid 'N Play nostalgia.

Joseph, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Interesting point (er, question?) about Armand Van Helden. Even moreso, I'd say 2-step has definitely kept some of the hip-house spirit in circulation. "Re-rewind" totally fits, no?

s woods, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, point/question/fact :) Although I think I ripped it off from S.Reynolds (who else?). 2-Step I agree, esp. in its Stanton Warriors incarnation.

Omar, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The closest 2-step has come to hip-house was last year's "Boom Selection" by Genius Cru. Most of the time though the MC'ing on 2-step is too different from the narrative rapping in hip-hop and, back in the day, hip-house. It lasted for not much more than a year at the end of the eighties. It was funny in that both the hip-hop people were in on it (Jungle Brothers being the pioneers with "I'll House You") as well as Chicago housers from the DJ International label, like Fast Eddie.

JoB, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Didn't Big Daddy Kane do a house track before Jungle Brothers?

dave q, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Or Grandmaster Flash, see "Scorpio" from what 1983? That's basically acid hip=house.

Omar, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What about The Streets' "Has It Come To This" as an example of 2-step with hip hop vocals?

Also: although tracks like Ja Rule's "Extasy", Lil' Kim's "How Many Licks" and Missy's "4 My People" move totally into hip-house territory, there still seems to be some sort of divide (ideological more than musical?) between them and, say, Armand Van Helden's "Full Moon" - which is strange since "Full Moon" and "Extasy" in particular are terribly similar. Any predictions as to whether the former sub-genre (call it house-hop?) and classic hip-house will collide in the near future?

Tim, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but wouldn't you call "Scorpio" straight electro? I know very little about house but I don't hear it there. I *love* that song, btw. That's an early vocoder classic, no doubt.

Mark, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tim - that's my feeling, too. What's been cited as "classic" hip- house just seems like hip hop to me. I'm more interested in what has come up and grown out from within house (i.e. JoB's too- fleeting reference to Chicago housers who, what? Added raps over the top?). This thread is maybe confirming what I've only intuited: that "hip-house" never really existed, or did only as a promise, or lab experiment. "Re-wind" hints in this direction but it's really R&B, and the closest thing to rapping on most 2-step tracks is the VERY different tradition of jungle-style MCing.

With the number of house DJs out there I figured that at least ONE would bring along an MC, put together a pounding 4/4 house-tempo set, and cut it up more to make room for the HEAD-EXPLODING WICKED HOUSE RAPPING. I want tech-house MCs!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"I'm more interested in what has come up and grown out from within house."

Jungle Brothers "I'll House You" definitely comes from house--specifically from Royal Party's "Can You Party" (unless it's the other way around, which I doubt). There was also stuff like Deskee's "Let There Be House" and Mr. Lee's "Get Busy"--actually, I think those are closer to 'hip-house' (if it ever did indeed exist) than the stuff I cited at the top. Certainly it starts from house and incorporates hip-hop, though why the *order* is important, I don't get.

scott, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think of EPMD, Kid n Play, Rob Base, as hip hop artists. They may have made house moves, changed the tempo, etc. but the whole feel is a hip hop feel. What if Erick Morillo got Method Man to do a rap remix of Pete Heller's "Big Love"?

I heard some guy named DJ Bone or something recently, playing Detroit techno in a hip hop stylee - cutting, scratching. Why no tech-hop? HIP-NO?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think it's best when you're trying to pinpoint or define genres to look at songs rather than artists. I mean, I think of the Stones as a rock and roll band; that doesn't mean "Miss You" isn't a disco record (yet I don't think of them as a disco band, except, perhaps, momentarily). I'd say the same for Rob Base: hip-hop yes. But he made (at least what I think are) some hip-house recordings. (Not "It Takes Two," though, which just doesn't have that light touch... that's really vague, isn't it?)

scott, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mark re: Scorpio, technically you're right of course, but i like to stretch things a bit, it's fun. And let's face it, you could call Scorpio something like proto-hiphouse (yeah), every time I hear that track I go "hot damn, that Grandmaster Flash invented acid house".

Didn't Master at Works do some hiphouse things (i'll have to listen to that boxset again for some specific examples, maybe Chris Cuevas 'Hip Hop'?)

Tracer, that hiphop style of mixing techno is very Detroit, I think Mills started it back in the 80s when he still was known as The Wizard. I love that style, Stacey Pullen, Claude Young and DJ Assault also do a lot of scratching, it just has that jumpy feel that I like better than those seamless mixes.

Omar, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is clearly an American discussion because it ignores the stacks of records that came out in the UK in '87 and '88 which actually used to say 'hip house' on them, like the Beatmasters featuring Cookie Crew and MC Merlin and all that stuff. The Chicago guy doing the same thing was Tyree Cooper ("Tyree Cooper/Super Duper") - all a lot more explicitly house than Rob Base. The Jungle Brothers 'I'll House You' is a great record, while we're on the subject

Mark Morris, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's also a very tasteful thread - I was waiting to see if anyone was gonna mention Jason Nevins vs Run DMC and Cypress Hill, but I guess those were hits with the wrong audiences.

There's quite a number of really early Chicago house tracks with quasi-raps on them, but they sounded more like dance instructors than raps. More importantly, they don't feel like hip hop, and I think it's the feel more than the strict sound that seems to make a difference.

Tim, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah right: "This is the Kool Rock Steady and I'm here to do the do, with Maurice, Lydell and Hula Too".

But that's the problem with rapping over house, and the reason why house djs don't bring mcs. The four four beat just doesn't lend itself to the kind of fluidity you need to make mcing sound good. Invariably these records either sound like dance instructors, or, worse, like Yah Kid K...

At the moment there are lots of house mixes of hiphop tunes which are actually okay. Anyone hear that disco bootleg of "I know you got soul" or the "Bonita Applebaum" remixes? The latter is really good hip-house in my opinion, handled subtly, still funky and adding something new to the original rather than just ripping it off...

jacob, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Strictly an 88/89 thing in my book.

Coldcut feat. Queen Latifah - 'Find A Way'

DJ Fast Eddie - 'Hip House'

Beatmasters feat. Cookie Crew - 'Rok da house'

Wee Papa Girl Rappers feat. 2 Men and a Drum Machine - 'Heat It Up'

Nick, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But it's definitely something that could be coming back : the Miss E stuff, all the hip-hop that gets me excited these days is using drum-machines, going at 120+ bpm, using techo / acid sounds.

It's true someone needs to invent a style of rapping that works. But the MCing on UK Garage / 2 Step sounds great and can work on a 4 / 4 beat. IF they could only say something interesting ...

Don't forget also there was a lot of ragga vocals on house around the late 08s / early 90s - EZ Possee, Rebel MC etc.

Someone should start DJing this stuff. My fantasy mix : St. Germain / Faze Action / Pierre's Fantasy Club / Tyree / MC Creed / Jungle Brothers ...

phil, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can't believe you're dissing Yah Kid K. She was a genius.

Tim, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Get Up (Before The Night Is Over)" = v. good pop.

Mostly unrelated to this thread (can't find the UK hip-hop one ATM), but I've been struck by how good the 1990 London Posse LP "Gangster Chronicle" still sounds. I'd suggest that it's had a hugely positive influence most of which *has not dissipated to hip-hop itself*, hence why you hear UK hip-hop records from at least 5 years later, maybe even 10, that still sound like lame imitations of US rap. I think a lot of the vocal styles and ragga and funk influences went through to hardcore, jungle, d&b etc. and hip-hop itself in the UK went through a lean period (no surprise considering that it came out before the "great exodus" from the hip-hop scene in the UK which I'm led to believe occured around 91/92).

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three weeks pass...
hey to that guy who was talking about DJ BONE, and saying where's the techno-hop, check out direct beat records

tim checkley, Wednesday, 22 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ten months pass...
Don't forget monie love - down to earth and q-tip rapping on deee-lite's groove is in your heart, jungle brothers - tribe vibes (which isnt really a hip-house track, but has the tempo)

ive been wondering about when theres gonna be a hip-house revival. as a european turned on to electronica at a very young age, 14-15 never cared much about hip hop in general. but hip-house has something both house and hip-hop nowadays is missing, and it is/was a great formula.

i totally agree, if theres gonna be a hip-house revival it has to have the "hip hop" feeling to it. armand van helden as mentioned earlier, and also if you listen to playgroup (on source records, u.k) you have a bit of the old hip house flavour, yet in a new wrapping. i think the key to make it work is to have softer house tracks more in the disco direction with a good dose of funk, and most importantly with a good rapper (not the hard beats as on jason neville vs run dmc chart hitter). i dont care if its dance instructions, or a deeper meaning just as loong as the "feeling" is there. hip-house the way i liked it, was all about fun and party, and both electronic and hip hop music at the time (im not saying everything is, but most) is far to serious. I liked hip hop in the early stages of de la soul and the jungle brothers, monie love, and all the artist mentioned in previous posts were doing their thing.

but my main purpose in this post if to ask the question ive been wondering most about lately regarding the topic, and to change the direction of this discussion slightly.... what does it take to bring it back? a dj with an mc? a dj playing all the oldies? more house remixes of r&b/hip-hop tracks? or more missy elliots and tweets who dare to take a step into that direction?

svendelux, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Also, sorta, "Lick It" by Gillette which is one of the GRATE oral sex songs ever.

Sterling Clover, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is "Lick It" as good as "Short Dick Man" or "On the Attack" (metal/hip-house!!)

Tracer Hand, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Do any house producers have metal hips?

Favorite hip-house track of all-time = Isis' "House of Isis"

Twin Hype's "Do It to the Crowd" is way up there as well. Mills/The Wizard used to play that quite a lot.

Andy K, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What makes it work is its utter seriousness and seductiveness -- there's no awkward "oh my god we're talking about going down (teehee)" feel to it which tends to come with explicit tracks. And not to mention the envelope on the synths and the fab bridge. "boom. badadadada. boom. badadadada."

Sterling Clover, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't believe you're dissing Yah Kid K. She was a genius.
A genius making a few STUPID choices tho. She lives in NYC now.

Some tracks on the Playgroup are a bit Hip Housy, if I remember well.

nathalie, Friday, 28 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...
i still absolutely love the hip house sound and still play it at parties around london.

here is my top ten ever. what's yours???

1. Jungle Brothers 'i'll house you'
2. Rob Base & DJ E-Z Rock 'It takes two'
3. The Beatmasters With Merlin ‘ Who’s In The House – The Hip House Anthem Mix’
4. Doug Lazy ‘Let It Roll’
5. Young MC ‘Bust A Move’
6. The Beatmasters & Betty Boo ‘Hey DJ/I Can’t Dance’
7. Bomb The Bass ‘Megablast’
8. NWA ‘Express Yourself’
9. M/A/R/R/S ‘Pump Up The Volume 7” mix’
10. Eric B & Rakim ‘I Know You Got Soul – The Double Trouble remix’
(Universal/Island)

julian rolfe, Monday, 7 October 2002 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

ya'll are missing the best hip-house track evah....

Queen Latifah "Come Into My House"

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 7 October 2002 22:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Is anybody gonna mention Public Domain?

Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 7 October 2002 23:09 (twenty-three years ago)

What about "Without Me"? Eminem disses techno over the tightest little disco jog, then causes an all-ages queer dance night in my Minneapolis neighborhood to nearly cave the floor in!

Heavy D's "We Got Our Own Thang" is a brilliant hip-house single, too. Wee Papa Girl Rappers had great clothes--and London accents. Cool.

If you're getting fussy over genre labels, consider this. Rob Base was called hip-house by both ex-NYC hip-hop people and those fabulous tastemakers at 12-inch Dance Records in Dupont Circle when I lived in D.C. in '88-90. I also remember gay friends LOVING the Jungle Brothers, and playing me an X-rated house version of "I'll House You" called "I'll Fuck You," that might well have been the precursor to booty and ghetto house.

Young MC and NWA I'm more dubious about, label-wise, but Base and the other hip hop mentioned above has the beat, and the beat don't lie.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 04:20 (twenty-three years ago)

there's this thing with ilm where if you don't get your answer in within the first, say, 20 posts, then you're guaranteed to have your choices mentioned by someone else at least once. consistently amazes and infuriates me! was going to mention "turn up the bass" and "let it roll". er, how about "fire island" by fire island? anti-drug anthem "the enemy within" by (?)? "wiggle it" 2 in a room?

michael wells (michael w.), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 08:06 (twenty-three years ago)


Doug Lazy - Let it Roll - yes!!!!

Dj Fast Eddie - yes!

A couple of years ago I went to an Exodus party where the Dj went from early 90's fast hip hop stuff like Silver Bullet and King Bee to what we used to call hardcore (i.e. early 90s rave. IMO the evolution of rave owes loads to UK hip hop which tended to be faster than Us Hip hop (Hijack, Gunshot etc)

spreadlove, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 21:04 (twenty-three years ago)


Just listen to Mantronix - King of the Beats- if you don't believe me!

Also check out this Spiral Tribe mix on allbacktomine.com - pure hardcore jungle bad boy bizniss!

Just 4 u London (sorry getting carried away here!)

spreadlove, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 21:29 (twenty-three years ago)

This thread is making me salivate. Any good compilations anywhere?

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 21:48 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
I have to agree with Eminiem - Without you. Thats definately a house tempo. I still play hip house - Beatmasters and Wee Pappa girl rappers, it's all dope. Well, some of its dope. Deskee is a load of wanerk. Pump up the Jam - Techonotronic is dope though. People have just forgot. You can get 'Hip House' records, you just gotta look. LL Cool J - Mamma's gonna knock you out, there is a hip house version of that on the flip. Roxanne Shante did a tune with Mekon very recently, on Wall of Sound. Check it out.

alan jones, Monday, 6 January 2003 23:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I have to agree with Eminiem - Without you. Thats definately a house tempo. I still play hip house - Beatmasters and Wee Pappa girl rappers, it's all dope. Well, some of its dope. Deskee is a load of wanerk. Pump up the Jam - Techonotronic is dope though. People have just forgot. You can get 'Hip House' records, you just gotta look. LL Cool J - Mamma's gonna knock you out, there is a hip house version of that on the flip.

alan jones, Monday, 6 January 2003 23:19 (twenty-three years ago)

six months pass...
I am suprised that Heavy D has yet to be mentioned on this thread. Rapping over shuffled 909 snares = ermmm...

Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 13 July 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.dirty.org/~minna/images/raphouse.JPG

minna (minna), Sunday, 13 July 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

According to this cover, people who make hip-house really know how to have a good time.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 13 July 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

The photo of the plane is fucking creepy.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 14 July 2003 05:16 (twenty-two years ago)

"Planes" in general are fucking creepy now. Thanks, Shrub.

Anyway, Fast Eddie and "It Takes Two" own.

The rest of it was unadulterated shit.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 14 July 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

* shudders, imagining shit-adulteration *

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 14 July 2003 05:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer, you didn't lamely imitate Sinker enough in that post!!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 14 July 2003 05:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought I was imitating Dan! Curse this hive-mind! Heavens! ;)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 14 July 2003 05:47 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...
I was toying around mixing house over bg daddy kane today, and I realised I need a hip house fix really bad.

has there ever been any notable hip-house revivalists in the last like 5 ears or so, if there are any big ones I might have forgotten.

Thomas Mehlt (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Thursday, 5 October 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure Thomas but I have a feeling others might.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Professor Funk and the House Brothers - "Work the Beat"

http://www.sendspace.com/file/levgrv

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

Professor Funk and the House Brothers - "Work the Beat - Instrumental Remix"

http://www.sendspace.com/file/zupvtx

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

there's always Cassius ft. Ghostface's 'Thrilla' from their second album.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

Professor Funk and the House Brothers - "Rap Your Body"

http://www.sendspace.com/file/xe6w9t

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

Who, if anyone, is producing good hip-house or hip-house influenced music these days?

moley, Friday, 9 April 2010 06:43 (sixteen years ago)

I also remember gay friends LOVING the Jungle Brothers, and playing me an X-rated house version of "I'll House You" called "I'll Fuck You," that might well have been the precursor to booty and ghetto house.

having no luck finding any mention of this online, does anyone know of it? also the hip-house version of 'mama said knock you out'

NI, Friday, 9 April 2010 13:17 (sixteen years ago)

xp: have you turned on a radio in the past 3 years?

goon vibrations (The Reverend), Friday, 9 April 2010 18:42 (sixteen years ago)

In the last few months I've been considering making my own classic hip house tracks. I'd just need a proper microphone, and I'd have to bury my vocals under enough effects to make it sound not entirely awful. All else you need really, are 909 and james brown samples.

Also, i don't think i ever mentioned it on ILM, but The Joe Smooth remix of Tyree Cooper - "hip house is the style" may just be my favourite hip-house track ever.

●●●●●●●● (EDB), Friday, 9 April 2010 21:15 (sixteen years ago)

did really no one mention KC Flightt?

henry s, Friday, 9 April 2010 21:48 (sixteen years ago)

There's a bunch of other hip-house threads where I think he's probably been discussed.

●●●●●●●● (EDB), Saturday, 10 April 2010 00:01 (sixteen years ago)

xp: have you turned on a radio in the past 3 years?

which stations in Sydney do you think are rinsing a nu-hip-hop sound?

one of the jones boys (sic), Saturday, 10 April 2010 00:32 (sixteen years ago)

nu-hip-house

one of the jones boys (sic), Saturday, 10 April 2010 00:33 (sixteen years ago)

an X-rated house version of "I'll House You"

could it be No Face - "Hump Music"?

one time gaffled 'em up (one time), Saturday, 10 April 2010 04:52 (sixteen years ago)

could it be No Face - "Hump Music"?

yeah that must be it, thanks! it's pretty rotten though: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=18289372

NI, Saturday, 10 April 2010 14:30 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iaVmN45Jh4

dan selzer, Saturday, 10 April 2010 20:28 (sixteen years ago)

sort of. Call it what you like, it's awesome.

dan selzer, Saturday, 10 April 2010 20:29 (sixteen years ago)

and in case this wasn't posted....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2zNvBNTnHg

dan selzer, Saturday, 10 April 2010 20:29 (sixteen years ago)

I quite like that James Curd track, although I personally classified it as Blondie-esque disco rap, myself.

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Saturday, 10 April 2010 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

i always think of capitol a when i think hip-house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Hb1hGD1qE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBBN7Xc2_S8

fauxmarc, Saturday, 10 April 2010 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

yeah, calling the Curd track "hip-house" is a bit of a stretch, but whatever! The music is basically an old italo song, Pop Pop Shoo Wah by the Erotic Drum band, and the rap certainly sounds more like old-school disco rap.

dan selzer, Saturday, 10 April 2010 21:27 (sixteen years ago)

well, I was just responding to the "call it what you like" part of your post. I must say, it really brings me back to last August when I was struggling to fit that into a mix I was making at the time and listened to it enough to have verses memorized.

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Saturday, 10 April 2010 21:29 (sixteen years ago)

That Capitol A stuff is great fauxmarc, cheers.

moley, Saturday, 10 April 2010 22:23 (sixteen years ago)

Via that fauxmarc's recommendation, I found this collab b/w Capitol A and Ben Mono. Off topic as it's not hip house, but too snakey not to share.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PuNiZUkmfg&feature=related

moley, Saturday, 10 April 2010 22:30 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

Let's all fill this thread with proto-hip-house (well, I wouldn't go that far - ultimately I was looking for an excuse to post this youtube somewhere) disco-rap a la:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVotaQzjnuc

Where Time Becomes A Loop, Where Time Becomes Aloof (EDB), Saturday, 17 July 2010 04:49 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

I don't know why I thought that was proto Hip-House, but whatever...

Either way, look at this amazing piece of utter amazing I found:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpkqAdBkHOs&feature=related

Amazing.

I'm banishing you to a time warp from which you will never return (EDB), Monday, 23 August 2010 03:07 (fifteen years ago)

*utter amazingness

Also if I'm not mistaken wasn't yo yo get funky made after "Hip-House" and Turn up the Bass, which are generally considered the first hip-house singles?

I'm banishing you to a time warp from which you will never return (EDB), Monday, 23 August 2010 03:09 (fifteen years ago)

I definitely loved the stuff back then ('88-'91, I'd say), but I had no choice, as I was a club DJ at the time and I would get asked to play "Joy and Pain," like, *three* times some nights. Mind you, I could only ever find gigs in the un-hippest of night clubs: one was a semi-dive drinking joint in a low-rent housing area in Toronto, the other was a really lame, after-work pickup spot in the Toronto business district. So really, I'm about as hip-house as you can get. I even own a hip-house compilation album (which I just pulled out and is only about half-hip-house, or semi-hip-house).

― s woods, Thursday, July 26, 2001 7:00 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Also, if you are still around, I would love to hear more about Toronto's late 80's house (and hip-house) scene.

I'm banishing you to a time warp from which you will never return (EDB), Monday, 23 August 2010 03:16 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7154/6748525605_d95f792a93_z.jpg

all tracks from 1988! £1!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:31 (fourteen years ago)

I think I had that, if it's called Rappin' Up The House, which it might be.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:34 (fourteen years ago)

OK it isn't that. What is it? Track listing definitely looks familiar.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:35 (fourteen years ago)

Ahah it's House Hits 88! I had that back then too. Found it in a charity shop a couple of years ago. Think I paid £2 for it though.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:37 (fourteen years ago)

House Hits 88 indeed

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:42 (fourteen years ago)

on today's evidence it's a very good way to start the morning (NB: i think this advice is non-operative if hung over)

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 January 2012 12:43 (fourteen years ago)


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