Plus, I once saw a cheapo behind-the-scenes show on local cable, and was fascinated by the frontman's creepy, chutzpah-laden smarm. (Which I think comes through nicely in their music.)
All aboard!
― Sam J. (samjeff), Thursday, 19 June 2003 14:45 (twenty-two years ago)
The GGD have an amazing string of great radio songs, while Train have the awful "Meet Virginia" and a Black Crowes cover, er, *homage*, shall we say...
― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 19 June 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)
The Goo Goo Dolls are better without question.
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 19 June 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 19 June 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sam J. (samjeff), Thursday, 19 June 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 June 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)
Train, on the other hand, are pleasantly, grotesquely over the top with their yuppie anthems. "Drops of Jupiter"!
― Sam J. (samjeff), Thursday, 19 June 2003 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sam J. (samjeff), Thursday, 19 June 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 19 June 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sam J. (samjeff), Thursday, 19 June 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 19 June 2003 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 20 June 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 June 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Evan (Evan), Friday, 20 June 2003 06:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 June 2003 06:05 (twenty-two years ago)
Personally I prefer the term 'improvements'...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)
Tom Erlewine gave the last Train thingamabob a glowing review on AMG. (I think it was him.) What the hell was he thinking?! :D
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)
Goddamn the Puerto Rican rough boys are after my ass! I'll never be able to visit San Juan now and talk about T. Rex. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean M (Sean M), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)
Wow. That's, uh... quite a review. (By Thom Jurek, actually.)
Let it be known, I don't like 'em THAT much!
"My Private Nation is not an album about angst, but about transcending it and the paralyzing cynicism that goes with it. The question is, when was the last time listeners got a rock & roll album that could do that without cowering in fear of having its optimism shattered? Not in a long time. But that's because My Private Nation isn't about optimism; it's about the flickering glimmer in the darkness, in the heart, in the culture, in the world, and how it should — and can — be seized, right now."
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)
Haha! Very nahz...;D
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)
DUD
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)
"My heart is bound to beat right out my untrimmed chest"
Wha???
― Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:04 (fifteen years ago)
gross
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:34 (fifteen years ago)
the new single is one of the worst things i've ever heard
― ksh, Saturday, 27 March 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8U1cX75vUc
what
― markers, Friday, 30 July 2010 06:36 (fifteen years ago)
"Hey Soul Sister" is the worst single of the decade.
― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 July 2010 11:34 (fifteen years ago)
otm
― ballerrr (The Reverend), Friday, 30 July 2010 11:42 (fifteen years ago)
i always knew ilx was a bit out of touch but after that "i gotta feelin" thread and now this. you guys gotta carve out fifteen minutes of assigned forkcast listening turn on radio or something because this song has been inescapable for months
or maybe i'm the only one here who hears 8 hours of the local soft-rock radio station at work like every day of my life
― gold bullion logic (samosa gibreel), Friday, 30 July 2010 11:47 (fifteen years ago)
this is my ~6 month old baby cousin's favourite song, she sways & claps every time it comes on in the car. it's super adorable obv and is kind of an otm metaphor for the song's appeal
― gold bullion logic (samosa gibreel), Friday, 30 July 2010 11:49 (fifteen years ago)
the thread was revived by "markers," who is the same person as "ksh," who posted about disliking the song in March. i don't know why he revived the thread with that particular vid of the song, but i'm just saying.
― The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Friday, 30 July 2010 11:49 (fifteen years ago)
ah
― gold bullion logic (samosa gibreel), Friday, 30 July 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)
You're not going to find many people on ILM who listen to the radio as much as the people who've posted since the thread revival.
― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 July 2010 11:56 (fifteen years ago)
Also...
― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 July 2010 11:57 (fifteen years ago)
igi, i was being a crank. i usually don't like it when people yack about who lives under a rock, just kind of funny that two enormous ubiquitous singles got revives/threads in the past day
― gold bullion logic (samosa gibreel), Friday, 30 July 2010 11:59 (fifteen years ago)
ok listening to this song...it's pretty bad, but not any worse than "If It's Love" tbh
Butch Walker's last couple solo albums are great and he was all over the last Fall Out Boy and Pink albums i loved, did prob the best later Weezer single, etc. so that stuff outshines whatever crap he's been involved with.
― some dude, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:23 (thirteen years ago)
i liked "if it's love" too \o/
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:25 (thirteen years ago)
the whole wordy staccato verses/big melodic chorus thing is really grating to me as a pop/rock formula
oh my god i just looked up Train on Spotify and the deluxe edition of their last album has a cover of "Umbrella"
― some dude, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:33 (thirteen years ago)
nb: also love third eye blind
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:36 (thirteen years ago)
threeeb is better than train, though, obv
― some dude, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:37 (thirteen years ago)
yeah agreed - i was just saying why the whole wordy staccato verses/big melodic chorus thing might not bother me
― recent thug (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:41 (thirteen years ago)
yeah i guess that's where you were coming from with that -- "semi charmed life" still has fairly melodic verses, though -- "if it's love" is like a bad standup act where the closest thing to a punchine is "remember winger?"
― some dude, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:43 (thirteen years ago)
Now that this song is here, I know exactly when to set the time machine for so that I can get to their van before they do, slash the tires, and keep them from reaching their major label showcase and getting signed to Aware records or whatever.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 12:06 (thirteen years ago)
how can a band so terrible be simultaneously so entertaining
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:50 (thirteen years ago)
happens all the time, doesn't it?
― some dude, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:55 (thirteen years ago)
I don't know about "all the time"; for me anyway, terrible bands/artists rarely give me any enjoyment (although when they do, it's a fuckton of enjoyment; see: ICP, Spice Girls).
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:59 (thirteen years ago)
http://open.spotify.com/track/5GCgC77m6EaAqu7ZlukMu2
okay everyone has to listen this now btw
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:01 (thirteen years ago)
I REFUSE
― crüt, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:02 (thirteen years ago)
6 people like this. Be the first of your friends.
― some dude, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)
this band has two songs in the UK top 40!! wth
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)
They know talent when they hear it over there.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 May 2012 12:32 (thirteen years ago)
Train Won't Play At Boy Scouts Jamboree Unless BSA Lifts Ban On Gay Scouts, Band Says
Train has taken a very public stand against the Boy Scouts of America's longstanding ban on the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community by boycotting an upcoming performance.
In November, Scouting Magazine announced that the Grammy-winning band would be headlining the closing stadium show at the 2013 National Scout Jamboree in July along with "Call Me Maybe" sensation Carly Rae Jepsen.
But a campaign to get both performers to denounce the Boy Scouts' anti-gay policies picked up steam on March 1, when GLAAD announced it had signed on to support gay Eagle Scout Derek Nance's Change.org petition.
A few hours after GLAAD signed the petition, Train posted a statement on their website saying the band will not perform at the Jamboree if the Boy Scouts do not change its policies before the summer.
When we booked this show for the Boy Scouts of America we were not aware of any policy barring openly gay people from participation within the organization. Train strongly opposes any kind of policy that questions the equality of any American citizen. We have always seen the BSA as a great and noble organization. We look forward to participating in the Jamboree this summer, as long as they make the right decision before then.
Huffington Post
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 08:37 (twelve years ago)
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/2014/04/train_priced_out_of_san_franci.php
Exciting news for us Oaklanders!
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 18:55 (eleven years ago)
every once in a blue moon, I remember the existence of their minor radio hit "Meet Virginia", featuring the imperishable quatrain Well she wants to live her life / And she thinks about her life / Pulls her hair back as she screams: / "I don't really wanna live this life"
I'll be an old, old man before I can forgive that one
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 8 June 2014 11:54 (eleven years ago)
said song also features an egregious & unnecessary rhyme of 'president' with 'president', which is enough to make their more recent clunkers like 'tenderloin'/'tender coin' seem positively Keatsian
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 8 June 2014 12:01 (eleven years ago)
My sister and brother-in-law think Train are great. I am not convinced
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 8 June 2014 13:22 (eleven years ago)
lol i like "Meet Virginia"
― some dude, Sunday, 8 June 2014 16:36 (eleven years ago)
Train encompass a genre I like to call "Piano Bar rock"
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 8 June 2014 17:49 (eleven years ago)
http://thenearsightedmonkey.tumblr.com/post/133929057114/dear-students-from-the-collected-works-of-making
― Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 November 2015 04:58 (nine years ago)
Just heard what I assume is their new single (the one that bites "Heart and Soul" or something). Satan's taking too long to collect on the "Hey Soul Sister" comeback.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 28 May 2017 01:59 (eight years ago)
...I missed mentioning, I heard it TWICE in two different businesses in the space of 30 minutes.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 28 May 2017 02:05 (eight years ago)
its like why saddam and not pat monahan?
― sexualing healing (crüt), Sunday, 28 May 2017 02:22 (eight years ago)
Watching you’s the only drug I need. :-)
― the ghost of markers, Sunday, 28 May 2017 02:49 (eight years ago)
Worst ever.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 November 2017 02:22 (seven years ago)
I was in a car listening to the radio last night and had the misfortune of hearing Train's 'Play that song'. Never has a song made me want to claw may ears of more. It reminded me of that 30 Rock doing 'America's Kids Got Singing' but it wasn't a joke. How the hell do they have 11 Albums, or a career for that matter.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 9 September 2019 09:07 (six years ago)
Partway through Alfred's piece, realised I hadn't heard Meet Virginia before. It's clearly awful and sounds to me an older cousin of One Direction's equally dreadful "what makes you beautiful". However not all is lost as I misheard one of the lines as "we sit at home and live on President" - we have no money for real food or heating but we do have some Brie and a blanket. perfect and sadly relatable romantic image.
― thomasintrouble, Monday, 9 September 2019 11:08 (six years ago)
Their new single is called "Mai Tais".
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 17 November 2019 18:02 (five years ago)
I believe that is Tagalog for "My Humps."
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 November 2019 18:08 (five years ago)
kill this band
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 03:53 (five years ago)
Just heard what I assume is their new single (the one that bites "Heart and Soul" or something). Satan's taking too long to collect on the "Hey Soul Sister" comeback.― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:59 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink...I missed mentioning, I heard it TWICE in two different businesses in the space of 30 minutes.― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:05 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:59 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, May 27, 2017 9:05 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Also missed that the song had already been out for awhile--it underperformed upon initial release, and then was re-serviced to radio & muzak in hopes becoming a Summer Hit tying into their tour.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 04:46 (five years ago)
Drummer Drew Shoals left the band in January 2019 to return to practicing law
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 04:51 (five years ago)
"drops of jupiter" is a classic! haven't heard any other good songs by them tho and some are truly heinous
― dyl, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 05:27 (five years ago)
^ note my enjoyment of "jupiter" probably depended in part on the fact that i was unable to understand some of its worst lyrics (soy latte etc)
― dyl, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 05:28 (five years ago)
She checks out Mozart while she does tae-boReminds me that there's room to grow
makes you think
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 05:49 (five years ago)
Gawd i can't stand them. About five awful songs that are on the radio all the time i'd find out, one every few years or so, are by this band
― Lee626, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 05:50 (five years ago)
These guys are the only thing that makes me second guess if Led Zeppelin was good.
― Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 12:30 (five years ago)
She checks out Mozart while she does tae-bo
lmao i've definitely looked up the lyrics to this song before but i didn't realize this was the lyric. yikes!
― dyl, Thursday, 26 March 2020 07:22 (five years ago)
D
― 26. imaginary bodyguard (Pillbox), Thursday, 26 March 2020 07:28 (five years ago)
― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 July 2010 12:34 (eleven years ago)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JeAfVoA_iE
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 14 August 2021 11:07 (four years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi67yCACrmI
― Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 20 October 2024 19:49 (one year ago)
The way you move ain't fair you know
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 22:44 (five months ago)
"meet virginia" is maybe the worst song i've ever heard, really makes me doubt the whole idea of people singing words.
― brimstead, Thursday, 8 May 2025 00:34 (five months ago)
She checks out Mozart while she does tae-bolmao i've definitely looked up the lyrics to this song before but i didn't realize this was the lyric. yikes!
How could anyone not parse the greatest lyric of the 21st century(?)
― A Single Block of Aluminum (morrisp), Thursday, 8 May 2025 00:37 (five months ago)
brimstead otm
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 8 May 2025 01:31 (five months ago)
In that very funny Pat Finnerty video I love how he says he made a bracket for worst song and they all somehow won.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 May 2025 02:45 (five months ago)