Rock And Rap: Overexposed or Diggin' It?

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I know someone has asked this question earlier somewhere, but I didn't see it. So, tis my turn: with bands like No Doubt and Linkin Park bringing rap-rock to the masses, have we diluted the concept? Is there any room for it to grow?

Fire and brimstone answers welcome in the forum.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

No Doubt?

― James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)

...with bands like No Doubt and Linkin Park bringing rap-rock to the masses

No Doubt???? HUH?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

'King Of Rock' and 'Licensed To Ill' are as rap-rock as you can get

has it grown since then? kind of but not really...but you could widen the scope of it to include things like DJ Shadow sampling 'When The Levee Breaks', DJ Swamp's 'Smoke On The Water' scratchalude, that Mos Def punk track, Ice T & Bodycount...with so many examples the idea of fusing rap lyrics with rock dynamics has been long-established and explored in perhaps as many ways as is possible. so not sure about room to grow, its already grown as much as it could perhaps.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

in a perverse way, i respect homeboys like LP who have the balls to shell out their own lame-ass rhymes than pop stars who cut a check to Redman or whoever to kick a verse and lend their track some 'urban' cred. go white boy go white boy go!

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

where was this genre supposed to go? The whole "genre" was a fairly one-note joke to begin with (that joke being "Licensed to Ill"'s 3ATM3), it just took a while to permanently plant itself down in the bedrock of its indended demographic audience (drunk white kids).

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: Urban Dance Squad, Beasties, Run DMC, nothing new except the equipment, folks -

what about Cake? Do they count?

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Shakey you seem to be implying that there is something less than awesome abt drunk white kids

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

where do the bloodhound gang fit in here?

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean, i've got family in king of prussia, pa; but b/c the bloodhound gang are from there i'm ashamed to admit to it!

― Tad (llamasfur), Thursday, 19 June 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

the crazy thing is how when Smashmouth dilutes rap-rock they end up sounding like XTC!

Diggin' it, obviously.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

My rap-rock band broke up this week. :(

No Doubt? Smash Mouth? Shouldn't bands have vocalists rap every once in awhile before they're called rap-rock? WTF?

My biggest issue with most of the rap-rock "movement" was that it all seemed so forced; it just comes off more as "rock-singers-who-started-rapping-when-their-A&R-guy-told-them-it-would-help-them-milk-the-current-trend" than a "people-who-honestly-listen-to-and-digest-hip-hop-and-bring-that-into-a-rock-group-for-musical-purposes" kinda thing.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 20 June 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

It's so funny how just as rockers always key in to the lamest aspects of rap, so do rappers key in to the lamest aspects of rock.

Witness N*E*R*D*

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 20 June 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Didn't this all start with the Judgment Night soundtrack in like 1992?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 20 June 2003 14:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Aerosmith/Run DMC and Anthrax/Public Enemy were quite a lot earlier.

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't forget Kurtis Blow/Yes

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Aerosmith/Run DMC and Anthrax/Public Enemy were quite a lot earlier.

...and Afrika Bambatta/John Lydon (ala "World Destruction" by Time Zone) PRE-DATED them!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

We have Bill Laswell to thank/blame for that particular colaboration.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

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