Walter Carlos 'Sonic Seasonings' - Classic or Dud?

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On Saturday, intrigued by my friend's obsessive descriptions of Walter/Wendy Carlos - I had purchased Sonic Seasonings (with three Bill Haley original singles inside?) at a charity shop. Initial reaction? Proto-ambient music. What do the folks at ILM think of Walter/Wendy? And where should I start my purchasing? General impressions are appreciated.

p f. sloane, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I lvoe wendy but I'm not keen on SS becasue the freakin nature sounds drown out the music!

Mike Hanle y, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wasn't impressed initially with 'Switched on Bach', but I found 'The Well-tempered Synthesizer' the other day, and that is great from start to finish. Am still looking for Sonic Seasonings... you don't want to sell it, do you? ;)

Other good synthesizer charity shop/cheap boxes at record fair purchases:
Tomita - The Snowflakes are Dancing - synth versions of Debussy - beautiful
Vangelis - L'apocolypse des animaux OST - mellow, late night stuff (better than a lot of his 70s LPs)

m jemmeson, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

One of the key albums of my life, although I always fall asleep during the "Summer" section--proto-ambient drone. The CD release adds some nice bonuses. After absorbing this, go on to "Beauty In The Beast."

X. Y. Zedd, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's OK.

duane, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As a person she is a princess hidden in a tower of self importance. Her bizzarre double standard of publicty/ not publicty. Her tendecy to be law suit happy and her self worship

As a musican , Switched on Bach was a cute trick, Clockwork was intruging and Sonic Sesoaning was a bit twee.

anthony, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll say no more than that I agree with the post above, otherwise she'll sue me for another $X,000,000.

I paid about 40 UK pounds for 'Sonic Seasonings' on vinyl secondhand, and found it somewhat pretentious, although it did beat Eno to the Electronic Ambient genre. However, 'Well-Tempered Synthesiser' is one of the best records of its type (and there were many clunkers in the rush to emulate 'Switched On') and Wendy's 1986 experiment with pseudo- ethnic music and weird scales, Beauty In The Beast, is rather splendid.

Momus, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Isao Tomita? Bloody hell, I've haven't thought about that record in a long time. My brother had a 7" single, with two selections from "Snowflakes"... I'm not sure if it grazed the UK charts as a novelty thing ('74-'75?). The synths that sounded like human voices - way ahead of its time. 'Real' Debussy was a bit of a let down after that.

I always associate that record with the 7" of "Autobahn" - though they may've been years apart, for all I can remember. I don't know the Kraftwerk album of that name terribly well, but the single (wasn't it described on the label as 'Highlights from...'?) is one of the most perfect bits of pop music ever.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Last night, late night record shopping I found 'Switched on Bach' and 'Clockwork Orange Soundtrack'. I put on the Clockwork Orange soundtrack and was duly impressed by the freaky thamesmead seventies futuristic sound.

You were sued by Wendy? What for? Sampling?

The general impression of Clockwork Orange soundtrack is hard to make since it is very linked with the movie with me.

I will listen to all three records in tandem. It's hardly easy listening, is it?

p f. sloane, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He got sued for the song Wendy Carlos. She considered it libel. He lost and raised legal fees by putting out the Stars Forever Double Album. People paid $ 1000 to have a song written about them. It is a good album .

Want to add anything Momus ?

anthony, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've heard of that album: interesting questions of art v. commerce.

Where could I get the lyrics to Wendy Carlos?

p f. sloane, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have an MP3 of it. Do you have ICQ ?

anthony, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

or any other way i can send it to you , it is too big for email,

anthony, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thanks for the offer, Anthony. My computer has crashed and burned and left in a steaming pile of rubbish in my living room. It is more like a feature of the room, rather than having a functional purpose.

I'll track down the lyrics on the internet. Interesting question though, if it was someone other than Momus, would that arse saving legal fees album be looked upon with such grace? Concepts of mainstream v. cult singer songerwriters and what they can and cannot do. If TLC released an album similar after their bankruptcy, how would that be looked upon?

Anyways, sounds like a lovely story of Wendy and Walter meeting up.

p f. sloane, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

40 uk pounds! Jesusu Christ I should sell mine. I got it for 10$. I am in a Wendy Phase right now so I am listening to all these above mentioned things all the time. SEEK "By Request". Rare and out of print I think but it was "Geodesic DAnce" which is great and a great version of what's new pussycat. Also, I found wendy carlos and weird al doign peter and the wolf. Weird al is annoying but the synth prokiev is neato although I dont think sh e used moogs. Also seek The Shining, scary as hell!

Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mike, is that the version with "Pompous Circumstances" on it? I've been waiting so long for a re-release. Somehow it got dropped from some previous releases--perhaps because the parody came too close to plagiarism. Anway, that composition proves she had a sense of humor once upon a time, though I suppose her self-serving pretentiousness is partly what I admire about her. I mean, "Sonic Seasonings" is a comedy album, isn't it?

X. Y. Zedd, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes! Its a great variation on pom and circomsntances! It has Moussorsky and Bolero ! It s pleasing. And Elaneaor Rigby too

Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd just like to add that I did not 'lose' the case of Momus v. Carlos, it never went to court. I would have won, the case was ludicrous. But it would have cost plenty.

Because three parties (two labels and me) were cited, the decision to settle out of court was taken by BMG lawyers. I was then left with the legal bill to pay in full, because everybody except me had a contract exonerating them from responsibility in such circumstances. I was where the buck stopped. As the poorest person with the fewest lawyers, I had to foot the biggest bill. That was my 'welcome to America' experience.

Hence the 'Stars Forever' album. Which, actually, was both humbling (a year of toil down the mines of Tin Pan Alley) and liberating (hey, you mean I can write about somebody else now?). Maybe it was easier to shake the money tree back in pre-recessionary 1999, but if I'd continued writing two songs a day for a thousand dollars apiece (the rate at which commissions were coming in during February '99) I could have earned almost a million dollars a year.

Momus, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Momus, was not saying that the concept was 'wrong' just interesting. Lots of questions come out of what you had experience regarding the artistic experience. Mind you, what you had did was very warholian and could be seen as art in itself.

Is the North American legal system not refreshing, the land of the free, etc...etc...

For two years, two very shameful years, I worked in a 'high power/we are god' law office and am still having karmic repercussions from. However, I was able to photocopy and sell the Backstreet Boys contract to loads of girlies at 50 a go. As a aside: just wanted to say, kudos to you, Momus. You were able to turn your legal 'failure' into art.

Personal question, though, were you able to listen to Wendy/Walter Carlos albums in the aftermath?

p f. sloane, Wednesday, 1 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I thought I still listened to W. Carlos, but on reflection I seem to have switched my allegiance to Raymond Scott. So yes, it probably does still hurt a bit, even although W. and I e mailed in a friendly way after all the clamour subsided.

Momus, Wednesday, 1 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

seven years pass...

Fascinating stuff re. Momus v. Walter/Wendy here...

Just pulled this record down a few days ago -- interesting, tho I agree w/ above poster that the environmental fx often drown out the music.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 03:10 (seventeen years ago)

that's what I love most about this album, you're just going to have to listen to it another few dozen times until you can hear how beautifully the electronic and natural sounds are balanced. The effects are the music, half the time the electronics are only in a support role to draw you deeper into the unperformed sounds, and much of the rest of the time they've merged so completely you can't easily tell them apart -- the locust drone on 'Summer', the way the field recordings of birds are slowly mixed in with twittering electronic loops, the moment when Rachel starts singing along with the wolves and the chimes.

the liner notes also make it clear that many of the most convincing moments aren't field recordings, they had to design them in the studio. the whole thing is a construction. that rainstorm is not a rainstorm.

I used a cassette of this for a study / sleep tape in high school so I honestly have no idea how many times I've listened to this album. And I hope she puts out the quadraphonic version sooner rather than later.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 04:51 (seventeen years ago)


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