Can we reassess Shriekback?

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...and even the work of Shriekback alumni?

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

let's not and say we did

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought they were amazing in 1983. Nowadays, I think they might have been really shit. My God, what happened?

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

You're smarter now. The absolute worst of the worst. "My Spine is the Bassline" is an okay song title, I suppose.

scott woods (s woods), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Why are they so bad? I need to put my finger on it. And how could I have been fooled?

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of their Y stuff roxx UR all breeders

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i feel cheated having bought that two disc best of

which one of you fuckers tricked me into THAT

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

All I remember is: "NO GUTS! NO BLOOD! NO [something or other-other]"

scott woods (s woods), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, i feel vindicated. i always thought they were sht too. that said i quite like barry wotsits xtc songs, and his rossmore road single...

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha I was just reminded of them this morning and decided to reassess them back into being good. You have been warned!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Accretions sounds particularly great when it follows Alan Vega's Saturn Drive.

I liked Oil and Gold more after I saw Manhunter.

Jam Science = worst album title since Ass.

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess, I think I'm the one to blame for that. I liked that 2 CD thing last time I listened to it (except for "All Lined Up", which I can't stand).

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a real thing about 'Care' in 1983. Haven't heard it lately.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)

i never assessed them in the first place, and am inclined to leave well enough alone

ron (ron), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

You know there's a whole buncha bands everyone pretends they never liked... Pop Will Eat Itself springs to mind...

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i never liked the poppies...but i do now!

gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, that's perverse. I bet you can't come at Jesus Jones though.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

are they similar?

gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"My Spine is the Bassline" really worked on that Weatherall comp. Also, I really liked "Nemesis" as a kid, downloaded it recently and still enjoy it.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 06:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I liked the Poppies at the time. I liked Jesus Jones' first single at the time too. "Def Con One" is still great (tho the isolationist US rejected it boo hiss ahem)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 07:20 (twenty-two years ago)

if we keep on going we can corral them all on this thread then lock the door and THROW AWAY THE KEY

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)

they are from the early eh? it must be good then ;-)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 09:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with Andy K.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I ever heard Shriekback but one of their number was a tutor of mine at recording college last year - he walked from Greenwich every day after taking his kids to school - and seemed so thoroughly decent that they're now my Favourite 80s Group, just ahead of Fiction Factory.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Why all this vitriol for Shriekback? If you can't appreciate the majesty of Oil & Gold than you've got ear-fulls of sickly, brown dung and I spit with abject derision on the ground you walk upon. Sure, it all went south after Big Night Music (though that had the odd track to recommend it)....but doesn't it always?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

"abject" derision?

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Most of the critics in the 80s were impressed how they fit the word "Parthenogensis" into a pop 'choon. I'm only 1/10th as impressed...
That said, "Nemesis" *is* an awesome song.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Lord C has hit upon the WORST EVER CRITICAL TROPE there, "When was the last time you heard a pop song which used the word ___________?"

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

That said, "Nemesis" *is* an awesome song.


...as is "Malaria", "This Big Hush," "Fish Below the Ice", "Faded Flowers" and "Everything that Rises Must Converge."

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Quick...someone compose a song that uses the words "Uniformitarianism" and "Sesquipediliate" in it! Win over the hardened hearts of those fatasses at Rolling Stone Magazine!

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

(xpost)

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

...as is "Malaria", "This Big Hush," "Fish Below the Ice", "Faded Flowers" and "Everything that Rises Must Converge."
I guess this means the next time we do an mp3 CDR swap, you'll have to throw those into the mix, yes?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

can the former champion take back his one-time ilm crown??

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it me, or is Mark S. simply a raging, pulsing sphincter?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't know. Never met him personally.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm worse in person

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Ohhhh GAWD!

;)

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Shriekback rules (except for that embarassing _Go Bang!_ album, who told them that releasing "Shark Walk" would be a credible thing to do?). Both _Oil and Gold_ and _Big Night Music_ are fantastic through and through (when the worst song you can pull out of the mix is "Hammerheads", you know you're onto something great) and hating "My Spine Is The Bassline" or "All Lined Up" is like hating orgasms.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

"care" has a few amazingly weird moments. i used to hate them when they were "my girlfriend's favorite band"... but years later i picked up "care" at a garage sale and am very glad for it.

favorite: "lines from a library"

(probably the anti-shriekback shriekback song.)
m.

msp, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, msp, thanks for reminding me. Care has two of the most frightening songs ever released on a record: 'Lines from the Library' and 'Hapax Legomena'. Another fine piece of lexicography from Funk and Wagner's favourite band.

When I was a kid two things impressed me about Shriekback: their bass player (eg Gang of Four) and his simple, super funky basslines; and their tribal drum programming, which was much more energised and kicking than was the norm back then.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

do you secretly still like them colin?

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 26 June 2003 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure, Gaz. My past is doing battle with my present on that one. I sort of lost touch with them after Care. I do know from listening to the radio that they lost two members, sold out and became a completely different band along the way. By the way, expect something in the mail late next week (it won't be a bomb or a steaming turd).

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 26 June 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

has it got slap bass on it? ;-) (do you want me to send you some dizzee and bling in return?)

thnx, looking forward.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 26 June 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, Gaz, I'm afraid it does. But, hang on, so does Sly and the Family Stone and Prince. *Pathetic voice* Is slap bass so bad??

Gaz, I would love some Dizzee in return. Thanks mate! Or are you pulling my leg?

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 26 June 2003 01:18 (twenty-two years ago)

just noticed it on PD and remembered it from WKOSA & no, i really liked it at the time.

sure, i'll send some dizzee. addy off line pls.

gaz (gaz), Thursday, 26 June 2003 01:35 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

That said, "Nemesis" *is* an awesome song.
...as is "Malaria", "This Big Hush," "Fish Below the Ice", "Faded Flowers" and "Everything that Rises Must Converge."

I really like all the weird anthropological imagery on Oil and Gold. Very much the same thing Peter Gabriel was doing on "Rhythm of the Heat" -- "primitive"/ritualistic imagery, the guy in darkest Africa on a grant who takes some peyote and goes native.

Eazy, Friday, 31 August 2007 04:52 (eighteen years ago)

I have been rocking all of my old Shriekback records lately. The first three albums and all attendant singles and EPs still sound classic to me. Somehow they manage to transcend their extremely shortsighted 80's style production choices. Having a bunch of great songs really helps.

sleeve, Friday, 31 August 2007 05:27 (eighteen years ago)

"Care" is good. C'mon.

Davey D, Friday, 31 August 2007 07:01 (eighteen years ago)

It is. And so is Tench, the ep which preceded it. And the single 'Working on the Ground'. After that - not so good.

moley, Friday, 31 August 2007 08:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm thinking that most people who say Shriekback are cheesy haven't heard Care, Tench or Accretions. After that it was all a bit more conventional, though it still had its moments. Then they lost Carl Marsh, and the magic triangle of Allen-Andrews_Marsh was broken.

moley, Friday, 31 August 2007 08:53 (eighteen years ago)

The Y Records Years comp is ace.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 31 August 2007 08:58 (eighteen years ago)

cant believe the lack of love for Jam Science on this thread!
i think its their most cohesive album with a fantastic combination of weird songs and interesting production.
still the shriekback album i visit the most.

mark e, Friday, 31 August 2007 09:15 (eighteen years ago)

Everything through _Oil & Gold_ is genius, production and all. There was definitely a drop in quality after Carl Marsh left (anyone heard his solo album? Talk about bad production!). Of these albums:

Big Night Music - very solid but exchanges some of the strangeness for more production tricks.

Go Bang - dire. Completely worthless, the record company must've threatened them or something.

Sacred City - I dismissed this at the time but it's aged well. The dance rhythms that I initially disliked add a nice change.

Naked Apes And Pond Life - Return to form with huge tribal rhythms and bizarre lyrics.

Cormorant and Glory Bumps came out in the past few years and are kind of a delayed double album. Both build on Barry's body of work as he continues to create great grooves with intruiging lyrical images.

Mr. Odd, Friday, 31 August 2007 11:48 (eighteen years ago)

fifteen years pass...

The other Shriekback thread is better but I'm waking this one up instead in light of their December 2022 album Bowlahoola, which I hadn't heard of until today but am listening to right now. Generally speaking I think Care & Oil + Gold are great records, esp. Oil, and that returns diminished after that. This new one opens on a pretty unpromising note -- Shriekback is best when they're not mugging quite so hard -- but the second song, "Baby Floods the Zone," goes motorik and is better. Thereafter that's things you'll like if you liked Shriekback and probably not much if you didn't. The album, anyway, is all Barry Andrews. Andrews is best when he has foils to temper his style a little imo. The more exciting news from team Shriekback is that there's an album by Andrews's pre-Shriekback band Restaurant for Dogs -- avail through the Shriekback site in ltd quantities they say. No clips anywhere, curious how it might be.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 14 January 2023 19:26 (two years ago)

(If you're a subscriber to Shriekback's mailing list it turns out there's a track from the RfD album for free download -- I assume my dl code is generated specifically for me but if you're a UK post-punk fan in any way I'd get on the mailing list just to grab this track, it will knock you flat for real.)

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 14 January 2023 19:29 (two years ago)

Intrigued! I haven't kept up at all with Andrews but I'm glad he's still doing his thing.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 January 2023 22:39 (two years ago)

I haven’t checked in since Without Real Strings or Fish, I’ll listen to the new one sometime soon though. I like what reunion shriekback are doing musically/lyrically but the synths have a tendency to sound vaporous and thinly workstationy.

I’ll always have a lot of time for care, jam science, oil and gold, most of bnm, and almost all of sacred city

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 15 January 2023 17:07 (two years ago)


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