META: Announcing ILM Search!

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So, as per somebody's suggestion, I went to Atomz.com and setup an ILM search. You can visit it at http://empty.org/ilm_search.html. Unfortunately, Atomz only indexes 500 pages for free, out of this board's total of approx 1800 threads. I could fuXoR with it so it indexes solely the threads current under "newly updated". Alternately, we could pay huge(!) [~600$ per year] fees to index the whole thing. Alternately somebody handy with perl can work up their own search engine. Alternately, who cares anyway, really? Alternately, we could set the Atomz search simply to index the thread categories pages, which would be mildly helpful.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 30 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You can search old stuff via google:

(hopefully this will work)

Search:

m jemmeson, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Seems to do ILE also (which is kewl). Thank you foax.

mark s, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hee hee. look up "tart"

Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 31 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
Right, I've set up a full search engine at freefind.com which indexes the entire of ILM (and only ILM):

Graham, Monday, 3 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Graham could you e-mail me the code for this and ILE search, if possible - I can't put them on the front of the forums as greenspun won't allow it but I can put them on NYLPM or something.

Tom, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If you want to do the Google search for ILM but not ILE, just put what you want to search for with a plus sign in front of it, and "I Love Everything" (including the quotation marks) with a minus sign in front of it. E.g., +"mark s" -"I Love Everything" will get you all mark s for ILM. And conversely, +"mark s" -"I Love Music" will get you all mark s for ILE.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 14 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(for goodness sake Frank ppl will TALK)

mark s, Friday, 14 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
Try dragging these links to the browser toolbar for easy new answer-ing and seaching:

IL* Search

ILM new answers

ILE new answers

m jemmeson, Tuesday, 16 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have installed Graham's freefind search on my blogsite. Does anyone know how I can make the search open a new window instead of displaying the results in the same window?

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yes - hold on a second, will work out the code for you

in JavaScript (ugh!) i'm afraid

m jemmeson, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

m jemmeson, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

shit, the wrapping thing got me - how about this:

m jemmeson, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ok the code works anyway, even if not from here.

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript"> <!-- // function ILMsearch_new_window() { var search_terms = document.forms.ILMsearch.query.value; if (search_terms != "") { var search_URL = "http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=4431395&pageid=r&mod e=all&n=0&query=" + search_terms; var search_window_options = "status,resizable,scrollbars,width=670,height=600,screenX=10,screenY= 10,left=10,top=10"; var search_results_window = window.open(search_URL,'searchResultsWindow',search_window_options); search_results_windows.focus(); } } // --> </SCRIPT> <FORM NAME="ILMsearch" METHOD="get" ONSUBMIT="javascript:ILMsearch_new_window()"> <INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="query" SIZE="12"> <INPUT TYPE="submit" VALUE="Search ILM"> </FORM>

m jemmeson, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
<!-- //
function ILMsearch_new_window()
{
var search_terms = document.forms.ILMsearch.query.value;
if (search_terms != "")
{
var search_URL = "http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=4431395&pageid=r&mod e=all&n=0&query=" + search_terms;
var search_window_options = "status,resizable,scrollbars,width=670,height=600,screenX=10,screenY= 10,left=10,top=10";
var search_results_window = window.open(search_URL,'searchResultsWindow',search_window_options);< BR> search_results_windows.focus();
}
}
// -->
</SCRIPT>

<FORM NAME="ILMsearch" METHOD="get" ONSUBMIT="javascript:ILMsearch_new_window()">
<INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="query" SIZE="12">
<INPUT TYPE="submit" VALUE="Search ILM">
</FORM>

m jemmeson, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

finally! - you need to make the JavaScript lines are continuous though - no line breaks halfway along, unlike above

m jemmeson, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

blimey! much simpler than scrolling down!!

mark s, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four weeks pass...
I just post to this so that the thread is handy on top of the new messages. The second search box by Graham is the one to use to look for anything on ILM. Just found an interesting thread on New Zealandish (indie) music: Flying Nun, The Clean, The Chills, JPS etc.

alex in mainhattan, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Freefind ILM Search

the above link brings up a search box for the freefind ILM-only search. and you can drag it to your toolbar too, hopefully, so you don't have to keep loading this page.

michael, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The following Javascript search bookmarklet should work for Internet Explorer 4+. I did not get the link in the last post to work on my computer.
IE ILM Freefind search

alex in mainhattan, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three months pass...
The Freefind search does not work anymore, or is it just me? I searched for Beatles and did not get any results. Could it be that the ILM forum has become too big for freefind in terms of answers?

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Or have Freefind just BANNED the Beatles??

Actually, graham says we reached our limit on pages indexed for free. But I thought this just meant it wasn't adding new threads. But now it seems to have abandoned us all together. How much did it cost to have the premium service, anyway?

N., Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's down at the moment because it last tried to to index ILM when greenspun was down at the weekend. It's reindexing now and should be working again soon. The freefind limit is 32MB, and it reindexes based on the first things it gets to: New questions page, Categorised threads, then the top part of the Uncategorised page.

ILM doesn't seem to fit any of the options on price list - ie massive number of options but no need for v.regular indexing.

Graham, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

options = pages

Graham, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...
As the freefind search does not seem to index up to the uncategorized category anymore where all new threads arrive first maybe there is another way to do a search. Nick gave me the idea in the "AMG C or D thread". Why not use Google with a site search including the words "I Love Music" which are on top of any ILM thread page plus the real search words? The basic example which would find all ILM threads is here. Only 1,830 threads. That seems not enough. Nevertheless is someone clever able to make a search box or bookmarklet using these parameters where the user only inputs the extra words he is looking for?

alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i just ran out the uncat section, in order to pursue my evil purposes — abolition of walls between dimensions, in-bleed of chaos from demonic regions yada yada — and it came out (at 60% size) to 29 pages = c.3000 threads... and there are about 1300 archived?

mark s, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

no, actually 2300+ archived already — nearly half hurrah! *sigh*

mark s, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

blimey. do you think you can do ILE when you've finished? cheers
(runs away)

michael, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Freefind ILM search does 2450 pages. I'll play with the settings to make sure it chooses which ones intelligently.

Graham, Wednesday, 27 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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