Recommend me some good PUNK music

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I'm more of a Metal fan than a punk fan but I really want to hear something good and shouty. I'd like names of songs to download from Punk bands new and old (but pref new cos I know ILx loves da old punk and it would be interesting to see who shines in this day and age).

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Punk - do people really still call this indie/metal fusion 'punk'?

Good punk?

The Clash, The Pistols, New York Dolls, Ramones....err... that's it, really.

russ t, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

???

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Lately when I listen to punk, it's Fear, Angry Samoans, Fang, Screeching Weasel, The Queers or Groovie Ghoulies. Not saying it's the best punk, but I'm not a big fan anymore, either. I like 60s psyche-punk.

Scaredy cat (Natola), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Really great stufr also off the top of my head: Spaceshits, The Reds, The Problematics, Catholic Boys, Little Killers, Zodiac Killers, Black Halos, Supersuckers, Mystery Girls.

Scaredy cat (Natola), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Buzzcocks - 'Singles going Steady' Probably the best place to start

Robin Goad (rgoad), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 10:54 (twenty-two years ago)

New stuff:

Zeke (very fast),
NO/FX, something off Punk in Drublic or Heavy Petting Zoo.
Bleach (Japanese all girl band FANTASTIC!)
Bikini Kill

Old:

Dead Kennedies - something off Fressh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables (hilarious)

Bad Brains - something off Rock for Light

Minor Threat - sober, v. influential

Slits - Peel Sessions

mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Buzzcocks - 'Singles going Steady' Probably the best place to start

He said, "shouty". And he's a metalhead. That's probably a terrible place for him to start.

Scaredy cat (Natola), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, please download multiple tracks by:

GG Allin
Mentors

Scaredy cat (Natola), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

VERY shouty, complex, remarkable:

The Blood Brothers.

Simon H., Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)

If you ask me, the US version of The Clash is pretty much untouchable as far as punk records go.

Evan (Evan), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)

you need some racebannon lovin'..

doom-e, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Ex Models!

mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

And Erase Errata!

mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Black Flag-- "Depression II", "Police Story", "Nervous Breakdown"

Jesus Lizard-- "Blockbuster", "Killer McHann" (live), "Mouthbreather"

The Germs-- "Lexicon Devil", "Richie Dagger's Crime"

Big Black-- "Kerosene", "Bad Penny"

Husker Du-- "Beyond the Threshold", "Something I Learned Today", "The Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill"

Minor Threat-- "Screaming at a Wall", "I Don't Want to Hear It"

Bad Brains-- "Rock for Light", "Pay to Cum"

earlnash, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

misfits

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 12:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Would anyonw like to hear my first bootleg?

Big Black Flag "Cable TV Party"

mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Teenage Head!

BTW, Erase Errata and Big Black are pretty damn cool, but I'm getting confused here. Is that punk? Erase Errata is, like, experimentally to me and Big Black is, like, post-punk industrial psyche noise. Are we using the same criteria Sonic Youth did when they named their video "The Year Punk Broke"?

Scaredy cat (Natola), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't think Big Black were punk either, so I thought I could get away with Erase Errata.

Depends on whether you'er judging by the strictly defined music style 'punk' Sex Pistols and all that, or the attitude/ethics espoused by Punk Planet. If it's the latter then both BB and EE are PUNK.

mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeh, for a long time I called everything punk. I basically thought of myself more as a "punk" than anything else as I was growing up. Then, I realized that's retarded. I'm not punk. I hate punk. More than hippies.

Scaredy cat (Natola), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

The Descendents first album.
the Dropkick Murphys
The Hudson Falcons
Generation X (first album)
The Dead Boys

Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

... But, hell, if BB and EE are punk, you can't forget HELIOS CREED and CHROME!

Scaredy cat (Natola), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

"(I'm) Stranded" by the Saints.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're more of a metal fan, I'd suggest hardcore bands as opposed to punk. Discharge, Warzone, Agnostic Front, Madball -- good stuff.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

s trife to thread!!

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Naked Raygun!

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Leatherface!

esp: _Horsebox_ and the split disc they did with Hot Water Music.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Pleage ignore that dull thudding sound in the distance - it's only me banging my head against a wall in despair.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

esp: _Horsebox_ and the split disc they did with Hot Water Music.

I thought everyone agreed Mush was never bettered, one of a kind masterpiece. I loooove that album.

Scaredy Cat, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Big Black was punk rock when it was new, whatever you want to call it now, I don't care.

earlnash, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Big Black was punk rock when it was new

Hahahahahahaha....no they weren't. By the time Big Black gurgled out of the slime, Punk Rock was already in its bilious decline

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The hell with all other recommendations; this is what you need:
X - Wild Gift/LA.

Richard Hell and the Voidoids

Bad Brains

Wire - Pink Flag

Ramones (first two)

No New York (shut up, I know this is No Wave. I'd still recommend it if you would ask for good pop records.)

Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady

The Saints - (I'm) Stranded

Velvet Underground and Nico

Stooges (first two records)

Pere Ubu -the boxset

Slits - Cut

The Jam - boxset

The Modern Lovers' first records

Jim Carroll - Catholic Boy

The Germs - GI

nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Man, some of you people need to drop some of the walls in your head.

Everything doesn't have to be hyper-indexed into extinction.

earlnash, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)


Man, some of you people need to drop some of the walls in your head.

Well, those walls keep the voices from escaping.

nathalie (nathalie), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I suppose that is true.

earlnash, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Leatherface!

I will still always love these guys. "I Want the Moon," goddamn.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

crime

the urinals

x-ray spex

cameron, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Stormtroopers of Death

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

jawbox, braid, avail, hot water music, quicksand, civ

dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

if yr a metal fan i highly recommend "the shape of punk to come" by the refused.

thee t

steve duda, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"jawbox, braid, avail, hot water music, quicksand, civ"

Err, emo-punk maybe?

I second Blood Brothers - they have metal crossover appeal!

Philippe, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Hot Snakes - "Automatic Midnight"

Crashingly loud and catchy and pure rawk n roll

ham on rye (ham on rye), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought everyone agreed Mush was never bettered,

enh, i contest that -- while it was perhaps the best full album, i think that some of the songs off the split and offa Horsebox were their best. When I first heard the opening to "Sour Grapes", i knew I was listening to something special.


i'd wish they fuckin' record or tour or do SOMETHING again. Nary a peep for two years now..

Kingfish (Kingfish), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

refused - the shape of punk to come!
amazing drumming and samples! loud, cool tunes. not yer normal boring fast punk. amazing

mad capsule markets - 010 and OSC-DIS
techno punk with lots of electronics. from japan. very cool. amazing live.

Mr Monket (apn99), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

refused would be a good start.

dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

try the explosion. those guys are alright!!

jconley, Wednesday, 25 June 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"Sing Sing Death House" The Distillers
"Live in West Hollywood" The Queers (This CD makes me smile)
"The Decline" NOFX (This song is just plain cool)

Scott Stanley (Scott Stanley), Thursday, 26 June 2003 05:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Good + Shouty + PUNK (as opposed to Anarcho-Punk, Grunge, Hardcore, Oi!, Post-Punk, Punk Revival, Skate-Punk, Thrash or anything else for that matter and despite the fact that I think it's probably Hardcore, Oi! and Thrash that you're actually looking for rather than punk) since so few of the suggestions so far have actually been all three:

999 - Nasty Nasty;
Angelic Upstarts - Police Opression / I'm An Upstart / Leave Me Alone / Teenage Warning;
Chelsea - Right To Work;
Crass - Banned From The Roxy;
Discharge - Why / Realities Of War / Fight Back / Does This System Work? / Decontrol;
Drones - Bone Idol;
Jerks - Get Your Woofin' Dog Off Me;
Lockjaw - Radio Call Sign;
Lurkers - Ain't Got A Clue;
Menace - Last Year's Youth / Carry No Banners / GLC;
Nosebleeds - I Ain' Bin To No Music School;
Pseudo Existors - Pseudo Existence / Coming Up For Air;
Pure Hell - These Boots Are Made For Walking;
Ruts - In A Rut / Babylon's Burning / Out Of Order;
Saints - Stranded / This Perfect Day / Demolition Girl;
Sham 69 - Ulster / I Don't Wanna / Borstal Breakout / Angels With Dirty Faces;
Stiff Little Fingers - Suspect Device / Wasted Life / Inflammable Material;
UK Subs - C.I.D. / Live In A Car / Tomorrow's Girl / Stranglehold / Rockers / Warhead.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 June 2003 07:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and I almost forgot:

Slaughter & The Dogs - Cranked Up Really High / Where Have All The Boot Boys Gone?.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 June 2003 08:10 (twenty-two years ago)

and lo the Moses of punk bearing the tablets of clarification came down
and it was Stewart
and it was good
and extinction through hyper-indexation did not befall the land

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 26 June 2003 13:07 (twenty-two years ago)

get the Punk comps that Rhino put out. LA/NY/UK1&2 are good places to start.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Thursday, 26 June 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's funny that somebody recommended that a metal fan who is casually interested in punk start by buying the Pere Ubu BOX SET!!!! I'm sure he'll dig that.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 26 June 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Snowy, you're very kind but if you watch the amount of influence that I'm managing to exercise over those waves just a little more closely, I think you'll discover that I'm not Moses at all - I'm King Canute.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 June 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Bad Religion! Not only is it on the "rock" spectrum of punk, it's also very intelligent and incredibly good. Plus Greg Graffin does do a shouty/singy type thing so your "shouty" requirement will be fulfilled.

I also say this because they're one of the few punk groups I can honestly say I'm a fan of. :)

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 26 June 2003 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

You see what I mean Snowy? Me fuckin' sandals are soakin' bloody wet again!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 June 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

hey dog latin. listen to a few of the recommendations and then throw them away. I am right abt this.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 26 June 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

does anybody know if Dag Nasty ever did anything worth hearing?

Kingfish (Kingfish), Friday, 27 June 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"BACK, I TELL YOU !
BACK!
BA-krrrblblegggr"
glug grgle

and thus the Sea of Attitude did drown him, and Punk was cast adrift upon it, divorced from any particular sound-form or point in time

which didn't improve matters

Stewart - you have my condolences

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Friday, 27 June 2003 12:57 (twenty-two years ago)

The Oblivians, The Gories, pre-Warner Bros. Husker Du, "damaged" and Everything Went Black", and "Live '84" by Black Flag, The Germs, "The Record" by Fear(Restless/Enigma Records released a live recording made for Pacifica Radio, Called 'Live...For The Record'--good mix of new and old Fear, but, sadly, out of print), "throb Throb" and "All Rise" by Naked Raygun, etc...

Look for the books,"From The Velvets To The Voidoids" by Colin(lastname?), and "We've Got The Neutron Bomb", by Brendan Mullin, which cover both coasts, East and west, respectively. I am not aware of any texts covering punk musics form the midwest, pacific nw, New England, etc...

Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Friday, 27 June 2003 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"Velvets-Voidoids" is by Clinton Heylin, yes? Julio may be overstating things a LLLIITTTTLE

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 June 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't believe no ones mentioned "Entertainment" - Gang of Four yet.

Has anyone heard of Zounds? Am thinking of going to see them in a couple of weeks at a gig in Leicester...

flowersdie (flowersdie), Friday, 27 June 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

wow! loads of recommendations here! It would take me all year to check all these out but I've started downloading some of them.

Can anyone tell me about a band called the Monks? I understand they were around in the sixties?

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 27 June 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

The Monks

mark s (mark s), Friday, 27 June 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I want to set this thread on fire and spread its ashes on unhallowed ground.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 June 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought you honored the fire?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 27 June 2003 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Not this particular fire, Julio.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 June 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Dropdead's first album
Palatka "The End of Irony"
Black Flag "Damaged"
Fugazi "Repeater"
Minor Threat "Discography"
Bad Religion "Suffer"
True North "We Speak In Code"
Reversal of Man "This Is Medicine"
Drive Like Jehu "Drive Like Jehu"
Against Me "Reinventing Axl Rose"

Man Afraid "Uphill Struggle" 7"
Swing Kids self-titled 7"
Asshole Parade split 7" with Ansojuan

Orchid "Dance Tonight, Revolution Tomorrow" 10"

Ian Johnson, Saturday, 28 June 2003 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)

"Has anyone heard of Zounds? Am thinking of going to see them in a couple of weeks at a gig in Leicester..."

Zounds! Yes, excellent hippy-punk / anarcho-punk / peace-punk / post-punk band from Reading / Oxford.

They did a free tour with Here & Now (I believe there were links with Mark Perry / Alternative TV) and gigged / toured with The Mob quite a lot and even shared their drummer with them for a while.

They released one amazing single on the Crass label (War / Subvert / Can't Cheat Karma) and then a great album (The Curse Of Zounds) and several singles (Demystification, True Love, More Trouble and the La Vache Qui Rit EP) for Rough Trade.

Vocalist Steve Lake went on to have a solo career and drummer Joseph Porter (aka Josef Portar) went on to form the folk-punk band Blyth Power.

Haven't seen them since they reformed so can't tell you what they're like now but in the early '80's they were great and the album (which is available on CD with all the singles added) is highly recommended.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 30 June 2003 09:04 (twenty-two years ago)


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