missy - miss e...soooooooo addictive

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so i am listening to this record for the first time in a year and it's nearly perfect. why did it get hated on so much?

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 June 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

fremme neppa vennette

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 June 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

jess' minimum def'n of what constitutes a "nearly perfect" album: only one or two songs have the urge to skip, good to flawless pacing/structure, few to NO SKITS

as i age i am finding there are fewer and fewer full albums i want to sit through...this seems a bit backwards to me

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 June 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i understand that feeling. i still listen to classical and jazz discs all the way through. i sorta miss albums that are pleasantly suprising as alums, ie not ones that proclaim "this is an album, take it seriously" but more like... this is a good collection of songs that flows well. i miss shorter albums.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 27 June 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, in listening to pre-1995 hip-hop for the last few weeks it's been determined now by science that 45 minutes is the prime length for a pop album

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 June 2003 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i think you may be right.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 27 June 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always thought this was her best album.

Ben Williams, Friday, 27 June 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

people hated on this record? Why? I think all her albums are a little uneven - there's always tunes to skip right over - I buy them and enjoy them anyway, for the singles and the odd hidden gem ("Back in the Day" off the new one rocks the hizouse fo shizzle).

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 June 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't hate it. But I did sell it once I ended up with a Totally Hits compilation that had "Get Ur Freak On". Maybe I didn't listen to it enough, I dunno. The first five or six times through, it just seemed to drag on and on. My general opinion is that SupaDupaFly-plus-singles is enough Missy for all but the most devoted.

JesseFox (JesseFox), Friday, 27 June 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Miss E a lot more than Supa Dupa Fly.

Sean (Sean), Friday, 27 June 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd much rather listen to this than, say, the blueprint now (which i think is good but has a lot of filler) (hardly his worst either)

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 June 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

who hated on this? where? when? cite examples, please

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 27 June 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yes it's a very great record, heightened by her 'let's do one of everything' gambit, multiplied by an immense horniness/god complex/dance fixation. hell, this is the hip-hop "Sign 'O' the Times".

I realize that's a stupid statement but I stand behind it.

Neudonym, Saturday, 28 June 2003 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a lot of drugs on that album as I recall. The beats are really great. I'll have to pull this out and listen again.

scott m (mcd), Saturday, 28 June 2003 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

it is better than supa dupa fly but not as good as da real world. but it does have lick shots (the best missy song)

minna (minna), Saturday, 28 June 2003 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think it's a stupid statement--I really like the ballsiness of it actually--but Stankonia seems much more SOTT-like to me.

M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 28 June 2003 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with Minna.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 28 June 2003 06:53 (twenty-two years ago)

My favorite bit in "Freak" is when it momentarily derails with "spit in your face" which sounds really clumsy but then rhymes with "give you a taste" which not only saves it but makes it even cooler. But nobody listens to whole tracks anymore do they? A shame for them, tension & release is what it's about for me

dave q, Saturday, 28 June 2003 08:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Matos, I would agree with you except that I don't. Stankonia might have higher highs than Miss E...So Addictive, but it also has lower lows, and the split/duality on that record seems more forced than they'd ever done before; Dre having to out-hippie Boi, Boi kicking his misogynistic shit up a notch, a race for manicheistic 'complexity' that is really no race at all. There's no sense there that OutKast is struggling with their own souls, or with anything. I'm as terrified of the upcoming double solo as I am excited.

Missy, on the other hand, is a thoroughly conflicted soul. When she introduces that gospel track at the end, you can hear it in her voice: she's scared, she's defiant, she's hopeful all at the same time. I keep expecting her to break into "Adore"...but she's too smart for that. Instead, she just busts it out on that Small Southern Church Soul tip--and it's lovely.

Neudonym, Saturday, 28 June 2003 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
finally got this a few weeks ago... it seems to be taking a while to absorb, but after listening to the first half quite a bit, i am surprised to find that i really prefer "one minute man" to "get ur freak on". the latter sounds more gimmicky each time, even if the original guitar/sitar ish loop still impresses.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 23 December 2003 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)


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