POX - Third albums

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London Calling, Born to Run, OK Computer and Parallel Lines immediately come to mind, but there are more...many more. There seems to be something special about that third release that lets us know the artist has come to terms with being in the public eye and under critical scrutiny. They're freer to experiment musically, and often do. But it's also a time of relaxation. The pressure doesn't bear down as hard as it did for that sophomore album, and the artists/bands can really write for themselves. Which ones rock and which ones rot?

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Friday, 4 July 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

ritual de lo Habitual - Janes' Addiction.

which contains the greatest song of all time....'Three Days'

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Friday, 4 July 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

kitchens of distinction 'death of cool'
divine comedy 'casanova'
slowdive 'pygmalion'
lilys 'better can't make your life better'
four tet 'rounds'
super furry animals 'geurilla'
gorky's 'barafundle'(if you don't count patio)
boo radleys 'giant steps'

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 4 July 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Tago Mago
Soft Machine - Third
Neu '75
Velvet Underground
Raw Power

T. Weiss (Timmy), Friday, 4 July 2003 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Eels - Daisies of the Galaxy
Replacements - Let it be
Clash - London Calling
Pixies - Doolittle

I can't think of any other right now... i'll work on this list some more....

Adam Flybot, Friday, 4 July 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i guess casanova is fourth, i forgot the mini-lp.

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 4 July 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Minutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
Love - Forever Changes
Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast
Fishbone - Truth and soul
Autechre - Tri Repetae
Bungle - California
De La - Buhloone Mindstate
Prince - Dirty Mind
Boredoms - Pop Tatari

chaki (chaki), Friday, 4 July 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

prince - dirty mind
husker du - zen arcade
elvis costello - armed forces
neil young - after the gold rush
the jam - all mod cons
steely dan - pretzel logic
big star - third
nirvana - in utero
ween - pure guava

but i'm not sure i agree with andrew's basic premise here. i think the pressure often bears down harder for album #3 than for any other album an artist makes. album #1 is often no-pressure, cause the canvas is blank. for album #2 everyone's expecting more of the same, so the only pressure is to come up with another 12 decent songs (which i know is easier said than done, but the point is that no one's expecting an artist to reach out and surprise them with the sophomore album). album #3 is where you either establish that you have legs and ambition and reach, or you don't. i also think this is more true now than it used to be. way back when they were releasing albums every 8 or 10 months, there was room to fail. when you're releasing albums every two or three or four years, there's a lot more at stake

fact checking cuz, Friday, 4 July 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Talk Talk - The Colour Of Spring
Orbital - Snivilisation
Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
Primal Scream - Screamadelica
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
Gillian Welch - Time (The Revelator)
Blur - Parklife
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head
Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I
Boo Radleys - Giant Steps

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 4 July 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Def Leppard - Pyromania.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 4 July 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

wilco's third would actually be "summerteeth," which itself would be a damn fine choice.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 4 July 2003 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah shit yeah, good point fact checking cuz.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 4 July 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Question is what Pavement song are you from?

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 4 July 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

oops you said ten.

um....

Beatles - A Hard Days Night obviously (first album on which they wrote everything)
Big Star - Third/Sister Lovers
Aerosmith - Toys in the Attic
Wire - 154
Scott Walker - 3
Van Halen - Women and Children First

and I'll 2nd Velvets, Love, Prince...

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 4 July 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

"stereo"

fact checking cuz, Friday, 4 July 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

yankee hotel foxtrot's their fourth album

(no particular order)
big star - 3rd/sister lovers
the velvet underground - the velvet underground
prince - dirty mind
the who - sell out
funkadelic - maggot brain
public enemy - fear of a black planet
nirvana - in utero
husker du - new day rising
pavement - wowee zowee
cheap trick - heaven tonight

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 4 July 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

eek - replace, um, maggot brain with the faust tapes

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 4 July 2003 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Led Zepp III
Velvet Underground-S/T
Bob Dylan-The Times They Are-A-Changin'
Love-Forever Changes
Big Star-3rd/Sister Lovers
Pixies-Doolittle
Wilco-Summerteeth
Nirvana-In Utero
John Prine-Sweet Revenge
ZZ Top-Tres Hombres

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Friday, 4 July 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Plaid - Rest Proof Clockwork
Sleater Kinney - Dig Me Out
Labradford - Labradford
Plastikman - Consumed
Mogwai - Rock Action
The Black Dog - Spanners
Sarah McLachlan - Fumbling Towards Ecstasy
Spiritualized - Ladies and Gents
Pentangle - Basket of Light

and omigod omigod
COCTEAU TWINS - TREASURE

Leee (Leee), Friday, 4 July 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Interesting how all these lists are essentially made up of rock's most canonical albums. Three really is a magic number.

To address fact checking cuz's concerns above: I think that nowadays, a third album is actually a rarity. If the second one tanks, there's no chance of getting to put out a third anymore. That's why any band who gets the opportunity to release a third album (on a major, especially) probably feels a little more at ease about how it sells and how it's critically perceived.

Since my list would resemble almost any of those above, here's just a few that haven't yet been mentioned:

U2-War
Belle & Sebastian-The Boy With the Arab Strap
The Doors-Waiting For the Sun
The Posies-Frosting on the Beater
X-Under the Big Black Sun
Talking Heads-Fear of Music

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Friday, 4 July 2003 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

EVERYBODY POKE YOURSELF IN THE EYES

Lynskey (Lynskey), Saturday, 5 July 2003 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

on the other hand, Ride's _Carnival of Light_ ate no end of dicks...

still, the Stone Roses' third album was killer!


AND NEVER PUT SALT IN EYES!!!11

Kingfish (Kingfish), Saturday, 5 July 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Saint Etienne - Tiger Bay
Grapes of Wrath - Now and Again
Lush - Split
Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic

oh, Joni Mitchell - Blue

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 5 July 2003 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Metallica - Master of Puppets
Slayer - Reign in Blood
The Wildhearts - Endless, Nameless (unfairly maligned)
Danzig - III
Lisa Germano - Geek The Girl
Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So What? (better than Rust In Peace or Peace Sells)
Dirty Three - Horse Stories
Mazzy Star - Among My Swan
Faith No More - The Real Thing
Mark Lanegan - Scraps at Midnight

Wyndham Earl, Saturday, 5 July 2003 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)

xtc - drums & wires
prince - dirty mind
public enemy - fear of a black planet
husker du - zen arcade
missy elliot - miss e
talk talk - colour of spring

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 5 July 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Jesus Christ, Metallica and Slayer are so OTM.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 6 July 2003 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

what was jesus christ's third album?

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 6 July 2003 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)

The Freewheelin' Latter Day Saint

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 6 July 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

isn't land speed record an ep?

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 6 July 2003 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Burning Spear--'Marcus Garvey'
ATCQ--'Midnight Marauders'
Johnny Clarke--'Rockers Time Now'
Public Enemy--'Fear of a Black Planet'
Wailing Souls--'Firehouse Rock'
Curtis Mayfield-'Roots'
Irresistible Force--'It's Tomorrow Already'
A Guy Called Gerald--'Black Secret Technology'
Prince--'Dirty Mind'


oops (Oops), Sunday, 6 July 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Fitting the critera "amazing" and "the band's best":

Burzum "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss"
Anathema "The Silent Enigma"
Biosphere "Substrata"
Elend "The Umbersun"
The Gathering "Mandylion"
Gorgoroth "Under The Sign Of Hell"
Gorguts "Obscura"
Graveland "Following The Voice Of Blood"
Immortal "Battles In The North"
Ministry "The Land of Rape and Honey"
Samael "Ceremony Of Opposites"
Sepultura "Beneath The Remains"

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 6 July 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Galaxie 500 - This Is Our Music
Bestie Boys - Check Your Head (if i'm considering lti their first)

Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Sunday, 6 July 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Revelations by KILLING JOKE
Dressed to Kill by KISS
Raw Power by Iggy & the Stooges
Rocket To Russia by the Ramones
Psychopharmacology by Firewater
Number of the Beast by IRON MAIDEN

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 7 July 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)

More that rock:

My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Erasure - The Innocents
Bjork - Homogenic
New Order - Low Life
Luna - Penthouse
The The - Mind Bomb (debatable, but my personal favorite)
Grandaddy - The Sophtware Slump
Massive Attack - Mezzanine
Peter Gabriel - Self-titled (Melt cover with Games Without Frontiers)
Spoon - Girls Can Tell
Meat Beat Manifesto - Satyricon
Magnetic Fields - The Charm Of The Highway Strip
The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
Spacemen 3 -Playing With Fire
Amon Tobin - Supermodified
Aimee Mann - Bachelor #2
Peter Murphy - Deep
The Replacements - Let It Be

Rot:

Oasis - Be Here Now
Weezer - green album
Pavement - Wowee Zowee (not horrible, but their worst)
Soul Coughing - El Oso

turkey (turkey), Monday, 7 July 2003 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

On second thought:

The The - Infected

turkey (turkey), Monday, 7 July 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

yes!

chaki (chaki), Monday, 7 July 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

P. O. X.

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 7 July 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Metallica- Master of Puppets, which I happen to be listening to right now

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Monday, 7 July 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

POX people! POX!

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 7 July 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Alright, James, Alright!!!!

1. Revelations by KILLING JOKE
2. Dressed to Kill by KISS
3. Raw Power by Iggy & the Stooges
4. Rocket To Russia by the Ramones
5. Psychopharmacology by Firewater
6. Number of the Beast by IRON MAIDEN
7. Black'n'White by the Stranglers
8. Bomber by Motorhead
9. Saint Julian by Julian Cope
10. Electric by the Cult

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 7 July 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

fifteen years pass...

My list

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 July 2018 13:35 (seven years ago)

And it is another good one, thanks

Isora Clubland (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 July 2018 13:47 (seven years ago)

Wowee Zowee
Sebadoh III
Kustom Karnal Blackxploitation
My Everything
Dirty Mind
Blacklisted
Neil Michael Hagerty & The Howling Hex
Aoxomoxoa
In My Tribe
Känguru

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Sunday, 22 July 2018 14:41 (seven years ago)

(Just realized the Wowee Zowee / Känguru cover art tribute was probably motivated, in part, by the “3rd album” parallel — LOL)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Sunday, 22 July 2018 14:42 (seven years ago)

(Whoops — “My Everything” is a 2nd album. Sub in “Raw Power,” I guess... feels unimaginative, but whatevs)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Sunday, 22 July 2018 14:50 (seven years ago)

Dirty Computer

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 22 July 2018 15:16 (seven years ago)

Never realized before that the third album is usually the magnum opus of most artists. I kind of love pretty much every album enlisted so far, so I’ll just mention others which I love and haven’t been mentioned.

The Books - Lost & Safe
Brian Eno - Another Green World
Broadcast - Tender Buttons
Carly Rae Jepsen - Emotion
David Sylvian - secrets of the beehive
Fennesz - Endless Summer
Grimes - Visions
Herbert - Bodily Functions
Liars - Drum’s not dead
Nico - Desertshore
Nick Drake - Pink Moon
Panda Bear - Person Pitch
Sparks - kimono my house
T. Rex - Slider
The Zombies - Odessey & Oracle
Zs - New Slaves

✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 22 July 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)

Never realized before that the third album is usually the magnum opus of most artists.

There’s definitely a strong strain of that, huh? — “Here’s where we go nuts / stretch out!” After Bathing at Baxter’s, etc.

The Red Crayola tried it, but their 3rd album was too weird even for their label to release!

(An alternate strain is artists who go right for the magnum opus in their second album — Royal Trux, Fiery Furnaces...)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Sunday, 22 July 2018 15:40 (seven years ago)

1. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness - The Smashing Pumpkins
2. Yesterday's Work - Ecstatic Sunshine
3. In Utero - Nirvana
4. Strange Days - Eric Copeland
5. What Would the Community Think - Cat Power
6. Dookie - Green Day
7. Visions - Grimes
8. Wonderful Rainbow - Lightning Bolt
9. New Day Rising - Hüsker Dü
10. Dirty Mind - Prince

flappy bird, Sunday, 22 July 2018 21:25 (seven years ago)

Good thread

flappy bird, Sunday, 22 July 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)

UGK - Ridin' DIrty
Los Campesinos! - Romance is Boring
The Wedding Present - Seamonsters
Townes Van Zandt - s/t
These New Puritans - Field of Reeds
Geto Boys - We Can't Be Stopped
Owen Pallett - Heartland

devvvine, Sunday, 22 July 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)

Led Zeppelin III
Double Nickels on the Dime
Secret Treaties
Electric Ladyland
Trout Mask Replica
Forever Changes
The Predator
A Hard Day's Night
Maggot Brain
The Yes Album

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 22 July 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)

Portishead - Third

No angel came (Ross), Sunday, 22 July 2018 21:38 (seven years ago)

Orbital - Snivilisation
Motorpsycho - Timothy's Monster
Gary Numan - The Pleasure Principle
Sparks - Kimono My House
Echolyn - As the World...
Magma - MDK
Cornelius - Fantasma
Yes - The Yes Album
Can - Tago Mago
Todd Rundgren - Something/Anything

there are a lotta good ones

frogbs, Monday, 23 July 2018 13:13 (seven years ago)

Stranded

No angel came (Ross), Monday, 23 July 2018 13:18 (seven years ago)


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