― Mark Richardson, Wednesday, 17 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― O. Munoz, Wednesday, 17 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
And I've honestly not really been able to listen to them since. Memory tells me that the first album or so is OK. The myth of REM, that they came along and saved American rock or something, always struck me as odd - did American rock need 'saving'? I'm not that up on my history of early 80s US rock, but the ecstatic reception of REM strikes me as being a kind of reaction to punk - OK the need for new music is appreciated, but does it have to be this noisy and nasty? Ah, here come some 'proper songs', good. A similar thing happened in the UK with the - perceived - difference between new wave and post- punk, maybe.
― Tom, Wednesday, 17 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
We'll give them dud, for kicks.
― JM, Wednesday, 17 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 17 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Tom, I think the way college radio (and students) embraced REM in the 80s was more of a reaction against new wave than it was punk. Something about the Byrdsian harmonies/guitars was so firmly "rock" (and more specifically American rock) and yet also perceived as "different" (probably due to the muttered vocals and murky production.) That's a powerful combination when you're talking about an American pop music movement. I always felt like REM existed beside the punks pretty easily, touring w/ Husker Du and The Replacements and so on.
― Mark Richardson, Thursday, 18 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
That said, having missed out on REM the first time round, about from the indie disco classics, I've been having a go at their early records. So in two months I may be a fan, but on current form, probably not...
― alex thomson, Friday, 19 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sean Patrick O'Toole, Tuesday, 23 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Basically REM sucks eggs. "Real World" by Matchbox 20 is a lot better than any REM song. The best thing about REM is that they still show "My Breakfast with Blassie" sometimes on TV.
― Kris P., Tuesday, 23 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― geeta dayal, Tuesday, 6 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ally C, Friday, 9 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I like everything pre-Green - I think that LRP and Document may be the masterpieces, for all their US80srock flourishes. The repetitive jangle of things like 'Cuyahoga', 'Welcome To The Occupation' or 'Heron House' is the sort of predictable thing I like (but I could never have predicted it). I must admit, I do like a lot of the 90s material too: I liked Out Of Time when it came out, recognize that there are good tracks on Automatic (but it got so grotesquely overrated), even have a soft spot for Monster ('I Don't Sleep, I Dream' is splendidly large, thudding and echoing), despite its lack of melodic quality. The real clunker, in my book, is New Adventures In Hi-Fi - BY FAR the worst REM record ever. After that, Up could only be a move up, and it has its moments (none better than 'Daysleeper', as far as I recall). Still, by the mid-90s there was something sadly insufferable about the tone, the image, the projected persona(e) of REM.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 13 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Jack Redelfs, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― the pinefox, Thursday, 22 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Rock and roll is deader than jazz, anyway. The answer to all your questions is, yes, REM really does suck as much as it seems, now that you've emerged from your childhood. Christ, I'd rather hear the Cowsills on any given day than those smarmy assholes.
Just my humble opinion...
― Douglas Fletcher, Friday, 6 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
REM "reveal" melodic side once more
There seems to be an awful lot of hatred quietly sedimented into those otherwise meaningless claw-quotes, or am I just projecting?
― mark s, Sunday, 13 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Patrick, Sunday, 13 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Robin Carmody, Sunday, 13 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― geordie racer, Sunday, 13 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sterling Clover, Sunday, 13 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DG, Sunday, 13 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Dr. C, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― geordie racer, Saturday, 26 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Stevo, Saturday, 26 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― DG, Saturday, 26 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
As opposed to apparently every critic around the world, I'm quite disappointed by Reveal. The last thing we need now is another apathetic 'Hey, everything will be alright' album. The tunes are pretty enough but I can't hear anything with the passion of Murmur or Lifes Rich Pageant. Maybe the computers just took it out of them a little.
― John Davey, Monday, 28 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Paul M Lafleur, Thursday, 5 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― the pinefox, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Records I like in the zero decade include: Lloyd, The Negatives; 6ths, Hyacinths & Thistles; Costello / Mutter, For The Stars; B&S, FYHCYWLAP. Of these, I think Lloyd's is the best. EC does what he does. 6ths and B&S are patchy by their authors' standards. I can't think of many others.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jack Redelfs, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Yeh, anything after 'document' or even 'lifes rich pageant' for that matter is supsect but ya kind of had o be there to understand the significance at the time.....
I but them at this time at of sentimentality
― Michael D, Sunday, 31 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 30 April 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 30 April 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 30 April 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 30 April 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)
xpost:tim, i think that post could cut both ways...
― john'n'chicago, Saturday, 30 April 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 30 April 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
still classic, even if i hardly ever take these discs off the shelf any more. i used to debate the merits of gardening at night with my trig teacher.
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 30 April 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)
I thought The Great Beyond was a lovely single, as was Imitation of Life (even Bad Day fits into this category), but those seem more like lucky accidents than an indication that they could record an entire album as consistent as those 15 years ago.
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)
If "Hi-Fi" had ended with "Be Mine," it'd be classic REM, probably in my top four or five.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
― I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)
having missed the monster tour - which would've been awesome as a high schooler - i was equally thrilled to see them on the UP tour as a college senior. they were ecstatic and did their best to include some older stuff...that the crowd booed!
― blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)
― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
once they moved from dance clubs to theatres
― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)
My friend Dag (plays guitar in the band, lifer) shared this fun pic of him and Stipe last night.
― paisley got boring (Eazy),
I can't tell them apart!
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 February 2024 17:57 (one year ago)
nice, I was just watching that REM-in-Jersey show a week or so ago. really kicking myself for not going to the Michael Shannon thing in Chapel Hill (pretty sure it was reading an interview with Shannon that prompted me to watch that old REM show).
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 12 February 2024 19:11 (one year ago)
Love seeing the four of them together again
Bill almost breaking up caught me off guard tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1qjo0Oz1qw
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 13 June 2024 15:34 (eleven months ago)
awww bill
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Thursday, 13 June 2024 17:06 (eleven months ago)
I'm crying too, biiiillllll <3
― fpsa, Thursday, 13 June 2024 17:38 (eleven months ago)
loved seeing the four of them together, didn't even make me feel (very) old
Buck with the reunion truth bomb: "It wouldn't be as good"
― Brad C., Thursday, 13 June 2024 18:00 (eleven months ago)
is it wrong that i want the four CBS morning people to start an REM cover band
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 13 June 2024 18:13 (eleven months ago)
lol
― Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 June 2024 18:49 (eleven months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUdVeADoPOY
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Thursday, 13 June 2024 18:53 (eleven months ago)
I did not expect that to make me tear up a little bit. <3 these guys still and that was such refreshingly honest interview. Like clearly still some feelings, but they all seem able to appreciate the bigger picture.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 June 2024 19:04 (eleven months ago)
Gosh. There was a charm and unexpected sadness to that.
― djh, Thursday, 13 June 2024 21:06 (eleven months ago)
Ah man. I was at that Glastonbury show in the video!
― kinder, Thursday, 13 June 2024 23:13 (eleven months ago)
the all-time champs of Band Dynamics
― alpine static, Thursday, 13 June 2024 23:25 (eleven months ago)
CBS' Sunday morning show has consistently the best interviews.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 June 2024 00:15 (eleven months ago)
yeah, Mason is clearly a mega-music fan ... with exactly the taste you would expect, but still. at least they're making time for music.
― alpine static, Friday, 14 June 2024 00:21 (eleven months ago)
<3
― timellison, Friday, 14 June 2024 00:39 (eleven months ago)
that was really cool and honest
― call all destroyer, Friday, 14 June 2024 02:43 (eleven months ago)
Well well well
https://www.facebook.com/REMhq/posts/pfbid031VDjWwKEGKMTJGZgLWn7k4y4SSvRZ38AKVkjRsn8XsCVuRqaDDh3eZtTPCb4ebVNl
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 June 2024 03:04 (eleven months ago)
Me just now: "I wonder if setlist.fm has been updated."
And of course:
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/rem/2024/marriott-marquee-hotel-new-york-ny-3b57a878.html
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 June 2024 03:22 (eleven months ago)
It’s funny how the CBS anchor refers to them as “the iconic indie-rock group R.E.M.”
― Energy wrong, I log off (morrisp), Friday, 14 June 2024 05:25 (eleven months ago)
i did laugh at the fact they played just about every REM song most REM fans have no interest in hearing again.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 14 June 2024 07:16 (eleven months ago)
Really? I would have thought that for most REM fans that would be their #1 choice for them to play. It's certainly my favourite of all the songs they've ever done.
― bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Friday, 14 June 2024 07:26 (eleven months ago)
"oh wow, they're playing "Shiny Happy People" / "Its the end of the world" / "Wolves, Lower" "
― Mark G, Friday, 14 June 2024 09:19 (eleven months ago)
I still love Losing my Religion they sounded fantastic, very impressed
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 June 2024 11:59 (eleven months ago)
jeez, talk about ambushed by unexpected emotion, i'm filling up here
shared the interview with my dad - rem were one of the few bands we could agree on when i was a teenager
wild to realise the four of them haven't been interviewed together in 30 years
― katy perry (prison service) (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 14 June 2024 12:26 (eleven months ago)
losing my religion casts a spell that makes it totally resilient in the face of being massively overplayed, it never gets tired for me. i wouldn't have asked them to play any other song and i couldn't have asked them to sound any better playing it now, i found it moving
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 14 June 2024 13:47 (eleven months ago)
the Youtube above is US only, but i can play CBS's own video in Canada (41min): https://www.cbsnews.com/news/r-e-m-discusses-surprise-reunion-at-songwriters-hall-of-fame-reveals-why-there-wont-be-another/
not sure where the performance is on their site though
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 14 June 2024 14:05 (eleven months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATHHACcw3Q4
I'm in the UK and this link to the full 41m works for me
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 14 June 2024 14:24 (eleven months ago)
no performance in that video
― A So-Called Pulitzer price winner (President Keyes), Friday, 14 June 2024 14:28 (eleven months ago)
i googled "rem songwriters hall of fame performance" and a recording by someone in the crowd that's on youtube came up
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 14 June 2024 14:36 (eleven months ago)
Same
― Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 June 2024 15:30 (eleven months ago)
sheesh what a song
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Friday, 14 June 2024 15:40 (eleven months ago)
so nice to see bill just floating along on the hand percussion
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Friday, 14 June 2024 15:41 (eleven months ago)
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8MbXgutzbT/?igsh=bjl3MDFkeXh2dnN6
― curmudgeon, Friday, 14 June 2024 15:52 (eleven months ago)
Stipe still sounds great
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 June 2024 15:54 (eleven months ago)
xp michael sounds amazing. lyrics still a rich enigma 40 years later. i loved how they described it as a "bumblebee" as in it shouldn't fly at all but it did.
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Friday, 14 June 2024 15:55 (eleven months ago)
the song gains something from the frailty of age. its shot through with the decrepitude of southern gothicism, so a patina of time and loss does it good
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 14 June 2024 16:01 (eleven months ago)
is that Clive Davis in the audience? That guy will never die.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 June 2024 16:01 (eleven months ago)
repeating from upthread for anyone who missed it: if you love this band or these people or the song "Losing My Religion" you should watch the Song Exploder episode on it. it's on Netflix and it's like 15 or 20 minutes long, as i recall? some great detail about the song, some great Bill Berry stuff and some of the love, respect, admiration and emotional resonance you get from that CBS interview.
― alpine static, Friday, 14 June 2024 16:11 (eleven months ago)
watching through the longer interview now :) love these guys
stipe is one of my favorite interviews ever, he's just so funny, would love to interview him myself one day
― ivy., Friday, 14 June 2024 16:34 (eleven months ago)
He has the most original timbre.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 June 2024 16:42 (eleven months ago)
Alex In NYC has a nice story on his bloghttps://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2024/06/busy-week.html
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 15 June 2024 07:32 (eleven months ago)
this long Mike Mills interview with ILM fav Rick Beato digs deeper than the CBS interview into the band's music, how it was made, and how they handled their business:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRfhX-XAIiY
― Brad C., Monday, 17 June 2024 00:57 (eleven months ago)
Great interview thx for posting
― that's not my post, Monday, 17 June 2024 04:17 (eleven months ago)
Yep, very good
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Monday, 17 June 2024 21:10 (eleven months ago)
Harris/Walz doing full court press for the Gen X/college rock vote by trotting out Michael Stipe in Athens, GA to sing "Wendell Gee" for the first time since 1985 https://t.co/Chyu35CDk0 pic.twitter.com/Gen6PMb1Tw— Matt Sebastian (@mattsebastian) October 11, 2024
― bratwurst autumn (Eazy), Friday, 11 October 2024 23:16 (seven months ago)
Not crying
― timellison, Friday, 11 October 2024 23:43 (seven months ago)
Lol “My dad loves you”
― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Saturday, 12 October 2024 18:20 (seven months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ftacKGmn6Q
― timellison, Wednesday, 30 October 2024 22:04 (seven months ago)
love it
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 30 October 2024 22:13 (seven months ago)