are "tim machine" the best thing david bowie ?

do you say david hau-ie

or david hoe-ie

Just shared by they who run the official Bowie fb page:

TIN MACHINE IS 23 AND BETTER THAN YOU REMEMBER

(all caps was theirs not mine)

The guy who runs this blog is currently going through the TM period.
http://bowiesongs.wordpress.com/

good luck with that

some of his best writing

best thread title

best opening post too

honestly this band would have been fine if it weren't for the rubber rodeo guitar dude. i hate those solos. if bowie had just found some stooges-oriented players it would have been great. his voice sounded fine. the batshit dystopian lyrics were a hoot. but his band sucked.

Who could've been more "stooges-oriented" than Hunt and Tony, i.e. Iggy's rhythm section from Idiot onward?

I like Reeves, too. Bowie was the weak link, really, he was aping Pixies and it wasn't working

"Who could've been more "stooges-oriented" than Hunt and Tony, i.e. Iggy's rhythm section from Idiot onward?"

lots of people!

the idiot and everything after the idiot is not the stooges.

The guy who runs this blog is currently going through the TM period.
http://bowiesongs.wordpress.com/

I'm finding this really interesting reading - I've never heard either Tin Machine album but the entries on the mid-late '80s era have been great. Love the idea of Bowie wanting to make music inspired by flying buttresses.

Scott you know I know you know etc. You can blame Gabrels for Tin Machine's crapness and I'd disagree but I wouldn't argue. But the rhythm section? Tim Machine I's ability-to-rock is let down by a crappy mix, not by a crappy bass and drums.

why don't we blame Bowie and the terrible songs he was writing and singing?

there's a lot of blame to go around. i was never really impressed with the brothers. i like their dad...

just think crazy songs bowie came up with would have gone better with a younger sloppier band. he should have had hanoi rocks backing him up.

these songs aren't any more crazy than any other bowie songs. what is crazy about them? except for some of the slapdash lyrics? particularly the 2nd album, which was pretty slick and I think had some pretty good songwriting for bowie in this era (goodbye mr ed, shopping for girls)

the singing is dreadful!

he's oversinging more than usual to keep up with the racket behind him.

(...um, I genuinely love that 1st tm album. sry...)

the songs are terrible, just terrible

To my ears, Bowie's able to keep a TM song chugging along 'comfortably', so that it's not special, not classic, but just FINE, until he drops such a stinker of a line, a huge bomb, the worst thing ever, that makes you realize just how uninspired he was at the time, cribbing so deeply (to my ears) from Frank Black, trying to achieve FB's same sense of non sequitur and failing, flailing:

Hallo humans, can you feel me thinking?
I assume you're seeing everything I'm thinking
Hallo humans, nothing starts tomorrow
I'm the baby now

When his voice cracks on that last line, OH, it's just the worst thing... that "Andy, where's my fifteen minutes" line, unspeakable Lovecraftian horror in hearing those moments.

Anyway YAY to Soupy Sales

"They're just a bunch of assholes / With buttholes for their brains"

I mean, come ON!!!!11!1!

My hot date with Tin Machine.

Ha! Great post Ned, I vividly remember watching Tin Machine on "In Concert", in fact when I think about them that's always the image the comes first to my mind.

I can't remember if I dug it or not, probably not. I haven't heard the records in yrs, though they are oddly facsintating to me being not particularly a Bowie-phile. I should give them another listen.

oh no you shouldn't

Bowie's lime green suit and his and Gabrels' headless guitars guaranteed no one could take them seriously.

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I would have said "Tin mah-SHEEN".

What’s keeping TMII and the live album from streaming services? I demand a box set with demos and alternate versions and tributes by Bono and Jack White

"Subsequent reports have revealed that Hunt Sales's recreational habits were a major catalyst in the band's demise. In the wake of David Buckley's Strange Fascination Bowie confirmed the rumours: "I guess it's now out because somebody's written about it in a book," he said in 2000, "but one of our members had a serious drugs problem...and that really destroyed the band more than anything else. It got to a situation where it was just intolerable. You didn't know if the guy was gonna be dead in the morning...we just couldn't cope." He added that the tour was "a nightmare" as a result."

Plus, ongoing disagreements, lawyers, etc.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_ZE9SrDs-I

bring back bob snoom, borad's one good poster

"They're just a bunch of assholes with buttholes for brains" is still my favorite Bowie lyric, I even think unironically

Bowie sitting in the studio in the middle of a pile of Burroughsian lyric cut-up papers, reading "buttholes", "assholes", "bumholes", "arseholes" etc., frantically rearranging them in different orders while the Sales brothers wait for him to cut his vocal for "Crack City".

Bowie sitting in the studio in the middle of a pile of Burroughsian lyric cut-up papers, reading "buttholes", "assholes", "bumholes", "arseholes" etc., frantically rearranging them in different orders while the Sales brothers wait for him to cut his vocal for "Crack City" snort enough coke to inspire Bowie to write "Crack City."

one of the sales bros (Hunt, I assume) is still sitting on rights or something which is what's preventing a box set from happening. from what I gleaned a few years ago, one was def in the planning stages, maybe it was even compiled, and then things went to shit. TMII did get a vinyl reissue though but that was it.