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Checking to see if anyone else from the board might be going to the July 30 Downsview Park concert featuring Stones, AC/DC, Rush, Justin Timberlake, Sam Roberts, Flaming Lips, etc.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 10 July 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I am. Very surprisingly.

s woods, Thursday, 10 July 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha, thats the weekend I might be headed up to Sudbury for.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 11 July 2003 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

But Noodles, you're gonna miss what the Globe and Mail is already calling potentially the biggest rock event since Woodstock!

s woods, Friday, 11 July 2003 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

'94!

s woods, Friday, 11 July 2003 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

hi scott!!
who do you want to see most?

petite verte (petite verte), Friday, 11 July 2003 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)

In order:
Guess Who
Isley Brothers
Justin Timberlake
Flaming Lips
AC/DC
Rolling Stones
Rush
Sass Jordan
Sam Roberts

[don't even know who Kathleen Edwards is, so she doesn't rank]
[justin is #1 on the list for shitting-on-the-audience punk value]

s woods, Friday, 11 July 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Kathleen Edwards is an Ottawa singer-songwriter in sort of a folkier, less produced Sheryl Crow kind of vein. She presented an award at the Junos and was on Letterman I think. I'm sort of excited to see her because I went to high school with her and had a bunch of classes with her. She used to be the girl who played "American Pie" at school coffeehouses and stuff. She was cool. It's a little weird to hear her singing about having someone's baby now.

My list would be something like

AC/DC (I want cannons.)

Kathleen Edwards

Rush (I'm being honest. I still think it would be cool to see them again. I'm hoping to hear songs they didn't play last year like "Closer to the Heart" and "Freewill" and "Fly By Night". And I'm curious to see how Rush-hating friends will respond to a live performance. I wonder if they'll still do stuff like "Cygnus" for a crowd like this. My roommate needs to see them as an essential part of his year in Canada.)

Justin Timberlake (I'm truly expecting this to rock and will be disappointed if it doesn't. I hope he brings a choir and orchestra. It would have been a million times better, though, if they could have got Christina Aguilera to come.)

Rolling Stones

Sam Roberts

Flaming Lips

I don't know the Isley Brothers. The Guess Who and Sass Jordan are total turn-offs and I hope they can't make it for some reason.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 11 July 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Honestly I worry about the sanity of anyone who wouldn't consider paying $22 to see this lineup.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 11 July 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

originally, I wasn't interested. Then a few friends said they were going, 'cause it was so cheap. Seeing the Flaming Lips in front of 100s of thousands of people would be wierdly interesting. But they've sold 400,000 tickets? Gah, sounds like Altamont, not Woodstock, to me. So, finally, no thanks.

pauls00, Friday, 11 July 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

But Noodles, you're gonna miss what the Globe and Mail is already calling potentially the biggest rock event since Woodstock!

Im getting a couple hundred, hotel and food in the deal so I think I'll go up north if its offered formally.
Doesn't the music become secondary once your dealing with a crowd of this size. I mean the seeing the shots of the papal mass up there was freaky.

I don't like to be too negative but in order of bands I don't want to see it would be:
Guess Who
Sam Roberts
Sass Jordan
Justin Timberlake
Rolling Stones

Don't know:
Isley Brothers
Kathleen Edwards

And would only really be interested in:
Flaming Lips
AC/DC
Rush

And it ain't worth dealing with the crowd for that. Though the allure of almost being able to walk Downsview in the time it will take to catch the subway that day is attractive. Of note it might almost be quicker to try and catch the 41 Bus from Keele station (or the connection with the 32 at Eglinton and Keele)

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

All this hate for the Guess Who! I mean, I can sort of understand...The thing is, I got free tickets to see them a few years ago at Ontario Place, figured it would be really really pathetic, but in fact, it was really great: 20 or so really classic pop songs, no filler, sounding just as clean as the records, very little wear and tear in their voices--I was really surprised. AC/DC I like a handful of songs but just don't care that much and I think it's embarrasing now. The Stones are my all-time favourite band and perhaps the ones I least want to see (embarassment times infinity). Hope Sundar's right about Justin Timberlake and I wouldn't put it past him (to put on a thrilling show, that is), though I only actually like one song by him. I saw Rush way way back when; I was fairly indifferent then and remain so now.

Bottom line for my hesitation: bad case of vitaligo + 8 hours of blazing sun does not = a great idea.

s woods, Friday, 11 July 2003 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Im just trying to imagine AC/DC, Rush, Rolling Stones, Guess Who would have been like late 70s, specially if you could warp Flaming Lips back ten years from their early days. I guess Downsview was a military base back then but oh well. Its a world class concert 25 years too late.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 11 July 2003 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd go, but I have the fear when it comes to very large crowds.

Kim (Kim), Monday, 14 July 2003 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought your AC/DC worship would overcome any fear.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 14 July 2003 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

In true reactionary style, a couple of people are having "AntiDownsview" parties. Im not sure why.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 14 July 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

But Sam Roberts is so cuddly and cute!

cybele (cybele), Monday, 14 July 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Im just waiting for CANCON requirements of Sam Roberts and Danko Jones slash. His love is bold indeed.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 14 July 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoah dude - that's just not right.

I think Sundar dareth to mock me...

Kim (Kim), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)

You're being mocked by a Styx fan, I wouldn't worry.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't you ever get tired of that line?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

No.
Next question.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck. I just heard that the Tea Party will be playing.

And no umbrellas or blankets allowed--what kind of madness is this? (I love how the newspaper report I read today was like, "no blankets, umbrellas, video recording equipment, and drugs or alcohol will be allowed in to this event..." as if "video cameras" and "drugs" are, under normal circumstances, allowed in such events.)

s woods, Thursday, 17 July 2003 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Another band added, forget who.
I can't believe no blankets, thats insane.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 17 July 2003 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Wear one and claim it's a cape.

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 17 July 2003 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha - I kid you not--NO CAPES! Or anyway, "no panchos." (That's not a joke, they're actually saying that. Apparently I'll have to go with a doctor's note if I want to protect my blotted skin.)

s woods, Thursday, 17 July 2003 03:35 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, they changed the rules today acording to the star.

Its being done by the House of Blues so of course the rules are going to suck major ass. They've tried twice to steal my camera away from me.
"goers will be allowed to bring beach towels, binoculars, cellphones, raincoats (ponchos), sleeping bags, snacks, soft drinks, and soft-sided coolers."

But still no "weapons". Damm, there goes that idea.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 17 July 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Honestly I worry about the sanity of anyone who wouldn't consider paying $22 to see this lineup.

I'm with Kim, any event with that many people would be sucko on so grand a scale it's not even funny. I mean, I think seeing the Lips there would be surreal too, but it's not worth spending 4 hours trying to get home afterwards on the three buses they'll be running. (Yes, I am exaggerating, but still.)

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 17 July 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

And yes, if the Tea Party are in any way involved with this thing, there's no way you could drag me there, even if you paid me. Hell, even if they're not playing and it's just a rumour, the association has already forever poisoned TorStock 03 for me, until the end of time.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 17 July 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

They were calling it Sars-stock on the radio this morning.

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 17 July 2003 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i thought after the 1$ blue jays game that whole "sars" things was done with.

dyson (dyson), Friday, 18 July 2003 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

seriously tho. as much as i'd like to see the lips & isley brothers – most of all i'd love see ac/dc and sing along to "sundar struck" with all the might my lungs can muster; i have a feeling it's going to be crazy crouded and i wonder how long each group is even going to get on stage. and dammit, if i can't bring my drugs and weapons...

dyson (dyson), Friday, 18 July 2003 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Besides all that - I'm sure we could bolster the economy much more effectively just by sitting on a patio and ordering all kinds of beer. Sars-FAP I say.

Kim (Kim), Friday, 18 July 2003 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

hey – i like beer¡

dyson (dyson), Friday, 18 July 2003 02:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Beer, it's not just a beverage - it's your civic duty!

Kim (Kim), Friday, 18 July 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

But if its civic, that means we have to drink Steamwhistle.

Speaking of beer, I went to see the Lonesome Organist tonight. meh. A Northern Chorus were miles better as per usual.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 18 July 2003 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

What did you think, Scott? AC/DC was totally great, especially Angus Young's striptease. "Dirty Deeds" was a real high point too. My sister once said that's the only AC/DC song she likes and I could see why it would stand out. They just worked the crowd and the atmosphere like masters. I thought Rush was fabulous, much better than when I saw them last year. (Having to work with a shorter set probably helped but they somehow seemed tighter and more on top of their game. Weirdly, the sound actually seemed better.) The version of "YYZ" was great. The Isley Brothers were a surprise for me - they were excellent. I knew some of the songs before without knowing who did them. It was criminal that they were in the first half and only got to play three songs - they're older than the Stones. (Were they the only act with a full-time non-white member, i.e. not counting backup singers or horn accompanists? It was really hard not to notice how overwhelmingly white the crowd was, given its size and the multicultural makeup of Toronto as a whole.) Justin Timberlake was a total disappointment, though the crowd's hostility didn't help. The version of "Cry Me a River" was so thin. The limits of his voice did show. The Guess Who was much better than I expected. I forgot that "No Time" was even a GW song - flawless vocal harmonies on that one. Nothing, not even a half million people going wild for it, will convince me to like "Takin' Care of Business" though. The Tea Party was almost physically painful - a small part of me died when they threw in that "All Along the Watchtower" quote. The first half of the show dragged a bit because of the shortness of the sets and the godawful interludes. The Stones were the Stones.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 1 August 2003 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, my wife and I wussed out after a couple hours. Neither of us felt like putting up with the heat, the crowds, etc. I mean, we knew what to expect, but the reality still felt worse than the pre-thought of it (500,000 is a LOT of people). But again, as I mentioned above, me in the sun for a long stretch is just not a good idea to begin with.

Anyway, we arrived at a spot where we could actually hear something just as the Isleys were ending--so missed most of that. Saw Blue Rodeo--they were Blue Rodeo, and fine ("Hasn't Hit Me Yet" is probably my favourite of theirs, so I'm glad it was one of the 3 songs they did). The Belushi-Akroyd thing is best left un-talked about. Forever. I didn't mind Justin Timberlake, actually. It seemed like he tried to cater his show a bit to the crowd by focusing on a kind of soul-revue feel, and from where I was, it actually sounded okay (though "Cry Me a River" was probably the weakest of the bunch). Weirdly, we watched him on the video screen and couldn't even tell that people were throwing stuff (though of course we could hear boos)--it wasn't apparent how negative the reaction was until I saw him on TV at home last night. We started to head out after Justin, which means we still heard most of the Guess Who anyway, given how long it took us to get to the gate. The visual contrast between GW and JT was certainly striking! (They sounded good anyway.)

I've been talking a lot with my friend this week about something you brought up: I'm surprised that no one in the Toronto media (to my knowledge) even mentioned what a whitebread show it was. I'm not one to go on about quota-fulfillment for events like this, but c'mon--the show was billed for weeks on end as a major boost to the city's morale, "bringing Toronto together," and featuring a "diverse" lineup. And yet, there was not a single hip-hop or r&b artist on the bill? Gosh, I wonder why?

s woods, Friday, 1 August 2003 02:15 (twenty-two years ago)

ya. 'cause politicians listen to hip-hop all the time yo

dyson (dyson), Friday, 1 August 2003 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

'Bout time for that Dream Warriors comeback.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 August 2003 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah man. Where in hell were Maestro and Michie?

cybele (cybele), Friday, 1 August 2003 06:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey its Carabana this weekend and how many people are going to be making a fuss about the amount of white people there?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 1 August 2003 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Caribana was conceived as a community heritage project based on the Trinidadian carnival. The whole point is that it's a festival celebrating a particular community. I have no problem with the attendance to this being dominated by people with West Indian roots, just as I have no problem with St Patrick's Day celebrations being dominated by those of Irish descent. The Downsview Park concert was conceived as a benefit for the entire city - no particular ethnic community has been especially affected by SARS here - with stated goals including, as Scott mentioned, "bringing Toronto together". It's an entirely different situation.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 1 August 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Didn't they ditch the West Indian party line for a more inclusive platform a few years ago?
We also had a Junoir Carnival on Eglinton West from Marlee to Caledonia that was almost strictly a West Indian affair despite being still half and half Jamacian/Italian community across that strech. No one complained about that.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 1 August 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Noodles, did you even read what Sundar wrote? You're comparing events of an entirely different nature.

s woods, Friday, 1 August 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I suppose Im having old campus radio arguements in my mind that are not relevant to Toronto.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 1 August 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)


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