MTV20: Are you depressed now, too?

billy idol's performance was the best. nelly, depeche mode, and, uh, all the other remotes tied for worst.

i watched all the way through because, swear, i was hoping axl would come out at the end. but no dice. however it was very nice to see riki rachtman!

other notes: 1 - okay, seriously, all the 'celebrities' were so b-minus-list that i was happy to see the presence of jenny mccarthy. where was madonna? michael? britney? george? DURAN EFFING DURAN? you know you're in trouble when a 'secret special guest' is one of the guitarists from zz top (1a: die rednecks die, kid rock must be stopped). no one who really made any impact was there, save fred durst, who -- well, i was going to say 'he should just die now anyway,' but look how that sort of thing affected the public perception of sublime. so maybe he could just suffer a mariah-esque breakdown? 'just one ... more fight ... about my mental state ...'

2 - speaking of dumb overtestosteroned men, if the red hot chili peppers are the band leading mtv into the new millennium of music, well, uh, maybe they *should* stop playing videos.

3 - i felt kinda bad for jesse camp. he started talking about getting himself 'clean and sober,' and then he got cut off by that guy who kept asking everyone if he was drunk.

4 - KURT LODER DRUNK!!!

5 - i don't care about tupac, i don't care about biggie. i really don't. they're dead. they've been dead for alomost 5 years now. no more careers can be built on those two gravestones. it's time to move on. but i think the only way that will happen is for someone else to kick the bucket.

6 - if the outfits worn by tlc and pepa are any indication, we are in for a redux of the Unfortunate Denim Fashions of 10 years ago times eighty bazillion.

basically, it was like the mtv video music awards without any awards, and without any big name marquee stars. hello, when jane's addiction and the red hot chili peppers are headlining your party, you either really have to get your head out of the early-90s nostalgia bucket. (NB i would have no problem with a head in said bucket if it resulted in, say, a soundgarden reunion)

i imagine being there was at least marginally more interesting, although reports from the front seem to deny that possibility.

I didn't watch. I did watch in the 80's though. I don't have cable now. I'm depressed anyway, and watching it probably wouldn't have helped.

Kid Rock RULED IT! Billy Idol was great too. It was so old school, with all the drunk veejays (the only sober person on the whole show seemed to be Jessie Camp, of all people) and the random swearing and stuff. TLC was really terrible. The hip hop medley was pretty bad. I didn't see all of it though.

I've never watched MTV and I have no desire to.

Maura typed: "5 - i don't care about tupac, i don't care about biggie. i really don't. they're dead. they've been dead for alomost 5 years now. no more careers can be built on those two gravestones. it's time to move on. but i think the only way that will happen is for someone else to kick the bucket."

Fucking AMEN, SISTER!!!!!!!

biggest, most pleasant surprise of the night - anthony kiedis WEARING A SHIRT FOR ONCE. christ, it was getting to the point where i couldn't identify which tanned, leathery torso was iggy pop and which was kiedis. chili peppers should really throw it in - IMO they suck to begin with, and when you can't sustain the energy to do ONE SONG, it's done. enough.

the rest of the show was like a big daisy-chain of asskissing, licking and brown-nosing - if they do this again in ten year, i hope they send us all dental dams so we can view behind adequate protection. carson daly (massive tool) should be shot, and every white mtv-bitch-boy using black slang casually was one of the most painfully awkward things since jon norris debuted that teenage frankenstein haircut a while back.

it was horrendous. i watched it twice.

That's the best part. MTV will be showing it non-stop, 24-7. Between episodes of Sypder Games. (Whatever happened to that animated show, Downtown? That was GOOD.)

Damn it, even when MuchMusic is shilling (hosting P. Diddy & Shaggy, for instance), they STILL kick MTV's drunk ass. It's amazing.

Downtown was REALLY GOOD!

NOPE! Don't even know what this is about, actually. MTV truly sucks. Except when I accidentally come upon some extra odd Jackass episode like the one where he's swimming right next to sharks with chum strapped to him. Other than that I gots no use for it.

Did anyone see Jenny McCarthy's HUGE vein popping out of her arm, that can't be healthy. The only good part was Boy George and it wasn't even that good.