The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

I wouldn't take the word of anyone who can't actually get their facts right - Goodge was BASSIST, not vocalist.

Improvise yer ass outta here, funhater!

or maybe that's something that's just required in the American Midwest...

oi!

I deal in facts. you deal in myths.

free jazz/improv has a small but committed audience. ppl who are into indie go into management.

seems roughly equal to "I will spin it positively for the subculture I like, and negatively for the one I don't" - if indie is "dead," then free jazz has decomposed. I happen to like both so whateveh, but I just wanted to say.

(but actually, indie is not that much of a 'subculture' anymore whereas 60s jazz and free improv (there is a distinction here btw), despite being older, has more of that, but that doesn't matter)

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Kevin Shields
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Hometown:
Long Island, NY and Dublin, Ireland

Interests:
Rearranging my recording studio, bankrupting record labels, the hypnagogic state, gourmet meals, martial arts, breeding chinchillas, smoking lots of dope, watching lots of TV, easy projects, writing fresh and simple material, and just keeping it simple!

Favorite Music:
Beach Boys, Burt Bacharach, Beatles, Public Enemy, Sonic Youth, Ramones

Favorite TV Shows:
Just about anything, really.

About Me:
You may have heard of my band, My Bloody Valentine. Many critics have written about us in very flowery terms. I don't think I understood what they were saying in those reviews half the time. That guy from Phish loves me guitar sounds though. Do me a favor and buy my Lost in Translation soundtrack. Island Records isn't helping me out much these days. Also kids, don't forget to buy our box set that's coming out in early '04.

Who I Want to Meet:
Great recording effects designers, more film directors, those with good weed, record labels who understand my fondness for expensive food and all of the time I like to spend in and out of the studio. Just remember... I NO LONGER DO REMIXES!

When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

I must achieve my breakthrough.

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in the spirit of not wanting this thread to die (tho it's been going for, what, 19 years now?) and having no IRL friends who also like this band... i will share some loose thoughts in case anyone relates to any of them/wants to respond to any of em, pick one... or don't

Isn't Anything always "clicked" for me but recently it has begun clicking in a whole new way, now that I've heard some very decent audio of IA songs being performed live. they're so fucking BIG and loud. ESPECIALLY You Never Should and Sueisfine. You Never Should in particular has what I think is Kev's very best guitar solo, and he doesn't have many solos. Very anguished, sorrowful, but energetic. Like a weeping siren. In particular, oddly, so far the best recording of this song being performed live that I've found (where Kev's siren/piercing drill-like guitar tone can actually be heard over everything else) is on Vimeo, a 32 min recording of them @ ATP 2008.

Here it is, I highly urge you to check out this version of you never should, it begins at 11:15:

MBV ATP 2008 on Vimeo

Please note the sound quality isn't amazing but it best reflects the siren-like guitar tone of all the recordings I've found of this song. It sounds best in headphones, I've noticed

Sueisfine also fucking begs to be experienced live, it's so demented and menacing, just the way I like it. Again not the best recording, but here's the best I've found so far that properly conveys how huge and raucous this song is meant to be, it begins at 57:20:

MBV Roundhouse 2008

I have listened to what people keep saying are the best bootlegs, and wtf is everyone hearing or talking about? I've heard all of most recommended, and the #1 attraction of the band, KS's signature guitar tone, is completely inaudible in them. If anyone knows of any superior bootlegs that have You Never Should and Sueisfine on them, please do link it or tell me about it.

Has anyone seen any mosh pits opened or any crowd surfing/stave diving at their shows? Just watched a recording from I think '90 and kids were moshing and going hard to all the Isn't Anything/FMYK songs + YMMR. I want that kind of energy when I finally go see them. I aim to attempt to open a circle pit during YMMR's noise wall. That'll be one for the books

Unrelated, something that gave me a big laugh. Here is a webpage that appears to have been last updated in fucking 1998. It is an MBV fanpage on Angelfire, complete with a Kevin shrine (and a hilarious anime-style rendering of him and the band.) The shrine page is appropriately titled "Kevin Shields is So Sexy," and there are some Conway-era photos on there, too:

Julia's MBV fanpage on Angelfire, 1998

How has this been up since 1998?! And I thought Angelfire died?!?!

Here are the highly amusing anime renderings of them:

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http://https%3A//www.angelfire.com/fl/julipage/images/mbvanime.jpg

Made by a Julia. Julia, where are you today?

Why isn't there a vinyl release of EPs 1988-1991?

"MBV Arkestra" by Primal Scream is fucking astonishingly good, I'm sad we didn't get more ear-piercing highly layered dance mixes from Shields, and I'm sad to know that we will never truly experience the full talent of this person, and most of the amazing music he creates will die with him. it feels like such a waste, it is soooo rare in our lives to find musicians whose creations are truly innovative and operate like their heads are just receivers with which they pick up some kind of divine inspiration from some other world

And, finally. Should I even keep my fingers crossed for a US tour? Or should I be operating how one does when a musician is aging and can go anyday, and go across the pond to one of their scheduled shows in November? The latter will be a stupid decision for my wallet but please note I have never seen them live before and am dying to.

ah fuck, i fucked up the embedding of those two images. ah well, they're on the site. and very very funny

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The link was broken for me, but I worked it out: https://www.angelfire.com/fl/julipage/

Hey, how did you format that? I just used regular HTML to do < a href = "link here" > link text < / a > but without spaces, and then used the "convert to BBcode" button.

I'm guessing the other two links didn't work, either? fuck. I spent a good few minutes on that reply! Shame I can't edit replies on here

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MBV ATP 2008 on Vimeo

MBV Roundhouse 2008

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most of the amazing music he creates will die with him. it feels like such a waste

― Milica Bogdanović, Monday, September 1, 2025 2:03 AM (yesterday)

He keeps most of his music private?

Milica if you don't know xtrmntr as an album, there are at least a couple more tracks with Shields' fingerprints on them - Shoot Speed/Kill Light (producer) and Accelerator (mix) - & imo the best things on there (I'd say 'on their best album' but I do not have a working knowledge of Primal Scream's full discography).

Saw PS at a small secret gig for the album with Shields on guitar. I have accidentally seen them several times since & have never found them much better than mildly entertaining/silly, but that was one of my top 5 gigs ever, absolutely intense and convincing blast of noise.

xtrmntr is the best primal scream album yeah

Yup. Screamadelica is good as well, but would have been better with a Kevin Shields remix of something right in the middle of it.

agree XTRMNTR is the peak, and the two flanking it are all you need aside from Screamadelica

Was that PS / KS tiny gig at the Mean Fiddler / Astoria 2 / whatever they were calling that manky basement on the corner of Tottenham Court Road?

That was one of the most blistering shows I've ever seen. They blew the roof off the place! I think Mani Stone Roses was playing bass with them around that time, too. That combination of Kevin Shields noize guitar, Mani's funk bass and PRML SCRM at their most abrasive was really something special. Co-sign the Shieldsy tracks on XRMNTR, they really are something special.

No, it was Oxford Zodiac, so not quite as small as I remember it (but that may be testament to the noise-force)

Ah, similar sized place. Both were under 1000 people - and often felt much smaller.

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gross

i must plead again: does anyone know of any ACTUALLY good bootlegs/live recordings where KS's guitar is actually audible and full and isn't obscured to all fuck? All the "most highly recommended" bootlegs have almost completely indiscernible guitar and are tinny and quiet. My gauge for this is if I can actually hear the siren guitar in Thorn, Sueisfine, and You Never Should, and not somewhere in the distance, either

He keeps most of his music private?

what i'm speaking of is just the whole of it: snippets of songs sitting on hard drives, brilliant old tapes never heard by anyone but himself, and of course all of the unrealized ideas in his head that never made it out of there, or did make it out of there but never into the public. it's so fucking rare we encounter a musician with whom you love and deeply connect to every single thing they touch. KS is one such a musician for me and his immense gift/talent is unbalanced with the amount of material we have. not trying to veer into the tired old "give us an album, hurry before you die!!!" speech either, btw. if it helps set the context for my intended tone here, picture me lamenting of this while standing atop a lonesome old clocktower peering out wistfully and melodramatically over the landscape.

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thank you, i consulted the formatting help and i promise i triple checked it before posting, ah well. thanks for the tip about the test threads, though.

Milica if you don't know xtrmntr

I don't, thank you for the recommendation. I only know "MBV Arkestra" which I find fucking incredible. elevates the original track into the stratosphere

I take it you've seen this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0h-y6xHKbs

I was at the ATP show by the way and that video isn't far off from what it actually sounded like...

i must plead again: does anyone know of any ACTUALLY good bootlegs/live recordings where KS's guitar is actually audible and full and isn't obscured to all fuck?

Thorn (Live at Polythetic, North London, UK, October 1988)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe-felI_tew

KS wearing THE sweater, Deb & Colm absolutely locked in, MikiB in the front.

Wow, such scene, so celebrating itself!

(I do wonder if the camera panned around the audience, how many of them I would know or at least vaguely recognise)

i must plead again: does anyone know of any ACTUALLY good bootlegs/live recordings where KS's guitar is actually audible and full and isn't obscured to all fuck?

I mean if you look in this very thread in this very year

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^ this was so revelatory that I have kept the last three tracks on my tooch since and listen to them at least once a month

What is that stage? Is each of them on a separate riser?

There's a live radio broadcast of a show from Lyon, France 1988 that does the rounds. It sounds amazing.

I take it you've seen this video?

I've seen that absolute treasure, yes, somebody has separated MBV's show from Band of Susans and upscaled it to 4k (i think using AI) on Youtube, it's excellent. true, that one is amazing.

I was at the ATP show by the way and that video isn't far off from what it actually sounded like...

That video has shockingly great audio, very full, very loud. Please, you need to tell us everything you can remember from this legendary event. You understand you've been to one of my dream concerts? i spent a lot of summers of my childhood in that area, the Catskills, right next to Kutsher's where this event was held, so that blew my mind. another childhood connection for me aside from me and KS both growing up in Queens, NY and moving away from there at age 11. I heard regulars were just hanging out in hotel rooms chilling with the musicians at ATP 2008? Tell us something juicy! Tell us what ghostly shit went down in that semi-dilapidated resort!

Thorn (Live at Polythetic, North London, UK, October 1988)

Seen this gem as well. shame it isn't longer

I mean if you look in this very thread in this very year

That one does not sound good, i've checked that one out before. only the drums and bass are audible in that. whole thing sounds tinny and far away. i've tried that one on a number of different systems and headphones and it sounds bad on all of them. shame. though New Song 1 is lovely

What is that stage? Is each of them on a separate riser?

Looks like it, it's a fuckin weird stage.

There's a live radio broadcast of a show from Lyon, France 1988 that does the rounds. It sounds amazing.

Thank you friend, i will go listen to that.

There's a live radio broadcast of a show from Lyon, France 1988 that does the rounds. It sounds amazing.

All I could find was "Live @ Le Truck, Lyon, France, 21-03-1989." That it?

I think that might be the bassist from Silverfish standing in front of Miki B in the 1988 clip, for what it's worth. What the hell was Polythetic, North London Polytechnic or something?

Meanwhile, paywalled, but the first review of A. Perer's book is out and is positive (and by a board vet, even).

https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2025/09/01/turn-my-head-into-sound-a-history-of-kevin-shields-and-my-bloody-valentine/

Live @ Le Truck, Lyon, France, 21-03-1989." That it?

Yes, 1989.

Review is paywalled so...

I guess the thing I'd be most interested in knowing about the book is what kind of angle it takes. Like, is it going to be 'Kevin Shields, lone genius, locked in his studio in Streatham being a genius by himself' or is it going to be 'Kevin Shields, deeply embedded in a local scene with lots of other musicians, Lush and Silverfish and Stereolab all down the front of their gigs and vice versa'?

Not for the ~gossip~ aspect of it. But because I feel he has always made his best music in collaboration (and competition) enmeshed in a group of other musicians who support him and needle him. But the 'lone great man in a studio being a solitary genius' myth is so strong - even though that method produced the least (if any at all) good music out of him.

Anyway, I have downloaded the gig, but not listened to it yet. Listening to recordings of MBV live always feels unsatisfactory because so much of the live experience of MBV was always about the physicality of the sound. Sound as a whole-body phenomenon that you feel in your gut more than you hear. I have pretty severe hyperacusis now so I don't think I'm physically capable of seeing MBV live again. But the early revival Roundhouse gigs and the UK ATP were totally about sound as a physical feeling, rather than something you listened to.

Please, you need to tell us everything you can remember from this legendary event. You understand you've been to one of my dream concerts? i spent a lot of summers of my childhood in that area, the Catskills, right next to Kutsher's where this event was held, so that blew my mind. another childhood connection for me aside from me and KS both growing up in Queens, NY and moving away from there at age 11. I heard regulars were just hanging out in hotel rooms chilling with the musicians at ATP 2008? Tell us something juicy! Tell us what ghostly shit went down in that semi-dilapidated resort!

Well I gotta tell you, I wasn't going to miss that festival for the world. And it was the BEST time.

I'm sure I'm not the only person on ILX that was there.... there was a whole grip of WFMU people, for one. I guess my main memory of it, compared to festivals now, is how low key it was. I think total attendance was 2000 people, but only MBV really brought out the entire crowd. So being familiar with the area, you know it really is kind of in the middle of nowhere all things considered. I didn't stay on site, but I wandered around enough to see boarded up rooms and general disrepair. Dilapidated is right, the place looked like it was about to be condemned. I will say it was soooo much cooler being there than NYC. It felt like a weird summer camp, or a high school campus during the summer, the community vibes were strong. There were two stages, one was a pretty giant ballroom (the Stardust room?) that had good acoustics, the other was like a large conference room you'd expect shriners to have a banquet in. And then there was some other rooms, Criterion Collection hosted a room with film screenings, but the only thing I remember seeing there was The Year Punk Broke with the extra 1/2 hour or whatever it was, and introduction/Q and A with Dave Markey.

Fri night I only watched stuff in the main room, it was all comedy on Stage 2:

Bardo Pond (performing Lapsed)- to very few people. I think people were still just getting there and getting settled. Bardo was a band I'd seen a million times- they were a constant opener of many cool shows in Philly- but seeing them there kicking off this amazing festival put such a smile on my face.
Meat Puppets (performing II) - incredible. a dream come true. they were not in great spirits, Curt was so pissed off at Cris the whole time. it was everything I could have hoped for.
Tortoise (performing Millions Now Living Will Never Die) - mix was bad, and so much going on on stage... messy
Thurston Moore (performing Psychic Hearts) - T completely phoned this one in, barely knew the songs, read the lyrics off giant cue cards....
Built To Spill (performing Perfect From Now On) - amazing, they did a great job. I think the only time I saw them with that full lineup.

hell of a bill in retrospect.

Sat Night I bounced between the 2 stages seeing:

Harmonia, Om and some of Low (on stage 2). I wish I'd paid more attention to Low but shit like Polvo was more my thing at the time, lol.
Polvo and a little bit of Les Savy Fav (stage 1)
The Silver Mt Zion Orchestra (Stage 2)
Shellac (Stage 1) - my one and only time seeing them, amazing set. nerdy and funny Q and A.
Lightning Bolt (Stage 1, though they played on the floor IIRC). didn't get it at the time, still don't care. They were big especially on the east coast, but wild to think that band was headlining all of that.

Sun Night, well day:

I got to the site insanely early (1 pm) to see Le Volume Courbe, you know Charlotte? She was the first act on stage 2, and really obscure. I only knew of that project because I worked at a cool record store at the time that got in all sorts of weird imports, and here was this unknown album with Kevin and David Roback and Hope Sandoval on it. Anyway I'm glad I did, she was so great and I was pretty smitten. Kept seeing her in the crowds for other acts, too.

then I must have needed a break to get lunch and/or go swimming and/or drink a bunch of beer or something (there was a cool indoor pool with bar) because I absolutely missed a bunch of stuff I would have wanted to see: Spectrum, Trail of Dead, and Robin Guthrie! d'oh!

I definitely got back to Stage 1 in time to see:
EPMD - who fucking ruled and woke the Kutshers PA up a bit.
Mercury Rev
Yo La Tengo
Mogwai - ok, they were as loud as MBV. I was staying in the same hotel as them (maybe that sounds bouj but trust it was a Days Inn or Holiday Inn or something like that, the area is not fancy). I wound up talking to one of the guys in the lobby the next day, their drummer had to be rushed to the hospital due to a heart condition.
Dinosaur Jr - I remember EVERYONE started pouring into stage 1 at this point to be there for MBV. Brian Jonestown was playing Stage 2 opposite Dino.
and finally MBV. earplugs were not optional. Kevin had like 10 or more amps, not kidding. There are photos out there of his pedals at the time, like a pile of like 40 pedals or something. Bilinda was absolutely breathtaking to see in person.

Don't have much dirt for you. The site definitely felt like a horror movie waiting to happen. I did see Kevin walking around at one point by himself. He was tall and didn't seem completely unapproachable, but I didn't bother him or anything. Steve Albini had a poker room but even if I did know how to play he would have went home with my cargo shorts. Anyway, I'm glad I wasn't smoking a TON of weed at the time and can actually remember most of this.

Oh yeah just had a weird flashback- after Dinosaur Jr they made everyone exit the main ballroom and come back in for MBV. No idea why. They would go on to play the Santa Monica Civic Center a few weeks later, anyone see that show?

I got to the site insanely early (1 pm) to see Le Volume Courbe, you know Charlotte? She was the first act on stage 2, and really obscure. I only knew of that project because I worked at a cool record store at the time that got in all sorts of weird imports, and here was this unknown album with Kevin and David Roback and Hope Sandoval on it. Anyway I'm glad I did, she was so great and I was pretty smitten. Kept seeing her in the crowds for other acts, too.

Wait, what, people actually liked that band? Musically, and not just for the guest appearances?

Sorry I really tried with them! And there was a lot of opportunity for trying. I must have seen them approximately 8000 times in the mid-00s. They played support for almost every dreampop / shoegaze gig between Edinburgh and Paris for about 2 solid years. To the point where it actually became a joke, 'oh, Popular Dreampop band is playing. Let me guess, special guest Le Volume Courbe, with Ulrich Schnauss DJing'. This is the downside of the Scene That Celebrates Itself. If one person in the band has connections, then they become unavoidable. Seeing them once, I might have just thought 'oh kinda cute in a ramshackle way'. But standing through the ramshackle 8 times in a month was so dire.

I'd agree with someone above, there's probably no real way to capture the sound of this live setup; or if you could capture it - no realistic way to reproduce it with stereo equipment that will have any resemblance to being in the room. closest comparison probably Sunn O))) on record vs in the room. I was at a bunch of the shows, I'm aware of a lot of the behind the scenes work that went into the setup - plus how long Shields made the soundchecks etc - and from my memory the shows didn't sound wildly different to the records - just vastly louder - Shields definitely a perfectionist and those live shows sounded as close as to how he wanted them as was possible.... no real crowd complaints regarding aspects being inaudible/guitar tones not there etc.

Was looking back at setlist for the warmup show - given the size of the room - this was the really loud one - there were loads of ticketless people just stood outside the venue and able to hear it all pretty well! https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/my-bloody-valentine/2008/institute-of-contemporary-arts-london-england-bd679aa.html

and yes, staff were given very clear instructions to basically force earplugs into people's hands. cue lots of "I was there back in 89 dude I am a tough punk rocker" replies, followed by them coming out 2 minutes into the set to ask for some earplugs please.

enjoyable to read your memories encino, that event is a very good memory... 17 years ago! i cry, and so does my hairline.

Oh yeah just had a weird flashback- after Dinosaur Jr they made everyone exit the main ballroom and come back in for MBV. No idea why. They would go on to play the Santa Monica Civic Center a few weeks later, anyone see that show?

Rather and I’m sure I talk about it way upthread.

encino morricone, my friend, wow, you really delivered on that description. thank you so much for that!

here's something that may interest you... that entire area surrounding Kutsher's, and far beyond, Ulster County and Sullivan County in NY in the Catskills, is mostly abandoned. it's an absolute miracle that Kutsher's survived long enough to offer a stage and some amenities to concertgoers in 2008. The area was a vacation hotspot for Jewish New Yorkers in the 20s-70s. When air fare became cheaper in the 80s, the thousands upon thousands of resorts, summer camps, bungalow colonies, hotels, motels, etc started dying off in droves. Now, the area stands as a dream destination for enthused abandoned explorers everywhere. interested in checking out a massive decaying behemoth of a resort complete with fish-filled, crumbling Olympic-sized pools without getting picked up by the coppers? Catskills got it for you.

The area must be cursed, as well. Just down the street from Kutsher's is a secular summer camp I attended as a child, where some of my own bunkmates actually died due to negligence and was shut down forever, now stands abandoned. Lots of crime, murder, abuse of children, accidental death, death due to negligence, occurred in that area over the decades. I wouldn't be surprised if a part of you picked up on the cloud of doom and horror that hangs over the area. Kutsher's was one such Jewish vacation hotspot, and I can assure you that that MBV show was the wildest and most out-of-character thing that ever happened on that property. That stage and that little conference room you mentioned were never meant for explosive rock bands, but at most some agreeable Jewish singer-songwriters in the 60s and 70s.

But doesn't it work just fucking perfectly? MBV at an almost-abandoned, falling apart resort in a largely abandoned town marked by a lot of death and suffering? picture perfect.

Did anyone actually stay overnight in Kutsher's rooms?

I will say it was soooo much cooler being there than NYC. It felt like a weird summer camp, or a high school campus during the summer, the community vibes were strong.

this is exactly how i picture the event and it's making me even more jealous. I wish i wasn't 16 then and not allowed to go to such events. this would've been a perfect event to put into my personal lore, damn. Seeing one of my faves crack the roof with their volume right next to the doomed summer camp of my childhood where my bunkmates died catastrophically? Damn.

I didn't stay on site, but I wandered around enough to see boarded up rooms and general disrepair. Dilapidated is right, the place looked like it was about to be condemned.

let me ask you, did Kutsher's really not go to great measures to prevent people from entering their disused buildings or wandering into disused/boarded up wings of the main building? amazing, picturing a bunch of excited festival kids stoned as hell excitedly looking forward to MBV reunion show, exploring ghostly old summer camp cabins right on site. I am now back to my gloomy reminiscing clocktower, looking out over the landscape, this time sighing melodramatically with jealousy.

How tall is he anyway? I always hear anyone who sees him IRL saying this

Listening to recordings of MBV live always feels unsatisfactory because so much of the live experience of MBV was always about the physicality of the sound. Sound as a whole-body phenomenon that you feel in your gut more than you hear.

I'd agree with someone above, there's probably no real way to capture the sound of this live setup

i know :( And this is why I am dying to experience them live. and why i am trying to find a bootleg/recording that gets as close to that physical wall of sound as possible. I am FOREVER kicking my 16 year old, 20-year old, 21 year old, and 25-year old self for not fucking going and seeing them. so stupid, so filled with regrets.

having your favorite tunes rattle your bones and vibrate your heart and lungs is like a religious experience and why I seek out live music with "huge sounds" all my life. if a concert isn't going to change my life and bring me to the edge of insanity, why should i go? that's how i see it. i am also the person whose favorite ambient sound is the engine of airplanes flying overhead, i will stop what i'm doing to watch a train pass by and listen to its horn while feeling giddy. i've been chasing huge sounds my whole life. Kevin please come back to the US, i will buy out your entire merch booth and attend multiple dates.

I nearly bought tickets to the MBV/Blue/DinoJr tour up in Whitley Bay for me and my brand new girlfriend, but thought it wasn't a good idea to subject her to "You made me realise" straight out of the box. Our first gig was Sultans of Ping FC, a band I hadn't seen before, she loved it, and ooh thirty years later, here we are.

Now I've got "Where's Me Jumper?" in my head, thanks.

Oh yeah just had a weird flashback- after Dinosaur Jr they made everyone exit the main ballroom and come back in for MBV. No idea why. They would go on to play the Santa Monica Civic Center a few weeks later, anyone see that show?

― encino morricone (majorairbro), Thursday, September 4, 2025 1:46 AM (yesterday)

Raises hand:
https://i.imgur.com/42Brlya.jpeg

This was one of the loudest shows I ever witnessed. I also saw the Loveless tour. They played the Whiskey A Go Go for three nights, I saw the opening and closing shows, no earplugs for either show there too.

Uh...not that ticket, though, that's a '94 show, and MBV was nowhere in town.

is that Sebadoh ticket from the Whiskey in summer 1993?

great show imho!

SeBADoh was 10-17-94, Roxy.

Only saw Dino Jr that one time.

I saw MBV/Dino at City Gardens in Trenton in February of '92. Was loud of course but not as loud as MBV later on the Loveless tour (which I caught in Detroit.)

We were not asked to exit/re-enter City Gardens between bands.

Completely unrelated to this thread, but kind of related (since you lot have been talking about concerts and posting ticket stubs):

I dug around for my old MBV/Dino stub (like you all I try to save them.) Didn't find it but did come across an REM stub from the Fables tour. I went to their website to check their concert archive, to see how well I remembered the setlist. To my surprise, there was a third band listed on the bill that night, which I had not been aware of at the time. (I got to the venue in time to see the advertised opener, The Three O'Clock.) The third band? The Replacements.

Womp womp.

And now you know the rest of the story. Good day!

That later Roxy show had (ilx legends) The Summer Hits as openers! Great show as well.

Forgot who opened the matinee show...

let me ask you, did Kutsher's really not go to great measures to prevent people from entering their disused buildings or wandering into disused/boarded up wings of the main building? amazing, picturing a bunch of excited festival kids stoned as hell excitedly looking forward to MBV reunion show, exploring ghostly old summer camp cabins right on site. I am now back to my gloomy reminiscing clocktower, looking out over the landscape, this time sighing melodramatically with jealousy.

How tall is he anyway? I always hear anyone who sees him IRL saying this

I can't recall and Official Kutsher's Staff at all, only hired security staff and not really that many compared to now where shows/festivals have like a hundred rent a cops.

I thought of one more detail- in the big ballroom probably for Mogwai and Dinosaur but definitely by the time MBV came out, bits of paint/drywall/foam tile, god knows what, was flaking off the ceiling from the volume.

I looked it up and Google says he's 6'3, that's pretty much what I remember!

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