Terry Fuckwitt - The Unintelligent Rock Star

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After a somewhat unilluminating interview with Grooverider, the Wire drily concluded "It's no longer necessary to be a conversationalist to be the voice of a generation". Which rock/pop stars do you think have come across as the dumbest (or more charitably, least verbally articulate) in the press?

Also, does conversational agility (as a component of what is societally considered 'intelligence') have any correlation with quality of creative output? Some artists (Luke Haines, Marilyn Manson) are witty and trenchant raconteurs, yet their music is a footnote at best, while others (Brian Wilson, Slayer, Elvis Presley) are massively, incredibly influential musically and come across in print like they'd be unable to tie their own shoes without help. (Compare careers of Paul Heaton and Norman Cook!)

Even more baffling - artists like Eminem and Snoop who are obviously quite adept verbally on record, yet sound lobotomized in interviews. What's that about?

dave q, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Madonna is so staged in interviews . She has this fierce gilmmer of intelligence but she looks like she wrote all the answers down beforehand and is rembering them

anthony, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Madonna is so staged in interviews . She has this fierce gilmmer of intelligence but she looks like she wrote all the answers down before hand and is rembering them

anthony, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I read a couple of interviews w/MUSE recently. Quite amazing - they really didn't seem to have anything to say for themselves. I suspect they aren't the only ones, but they did stand out as being esp. clueless & dumb. I don't tend to read artist interviews anymore (stopped getting NME) but have noticed that opinionated/interesting weirdos (eg Mark E. Smith, Julian Cope, the Jazz Coalman - am I supposed to say "honour the fire" here or s.th?) are thinner on the ground - existing ones are getting older, & not getting replaced by new gen. Perhaps this is s.th to do w/ "indie" being largeley corporate-controlled these days, & young acts being told what not to say by minders? Perhaps?

xoxo

Norman Fay, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't think I'm giving away no state secrets if I reveal that Coldplay are perhaps the most charming, polite, friendliest yet dullest boys in interview. Muse are similar, you're right, but I actually think Matt does have stuff to say... it's just that he's been asked about it a thousand times or more by now.

It's worth considering the sheer volume of interviews today's stars do when compared to other decades: that's gonna dumb down their answers for sure.

The feller from Korn stated talking about his suicide attempt within two minutes of speaking to me - on the phone, I'd never spoken to the chap before - and was so eager to put across his troubled past, I managed to wrest a 5,000 word cover article for Rolling Stone (Australia) from a 12 minute interview. You may think this indicates precisely the opposite trait to what you're discussing, but I think it amounts to exactly the same thing.

But Coldplay are definitely my nominees. Spent 150 minutes wrestling with their genial, genuinely lovely, dull as dishwater personalities... and although I can't deny the Sun ran a Bizarre lead two weeks later on the one revelation I got from Chris about his virginity, I reckon that was because The Sun too couldn't come up with anything of interest.

But there again, why should we expect pop stars to be interesting simply cos they've made a record? Surely, that's why they're making records: because they have no other way of communication. I never used to read interviews in the days I bought the press, knowing that was the least interesting part of the papers. Times haven't changed. Muscians are still some of the dullest kids on the block.

Coldplay are really nice people though. Still... their lack of good interview might explain the music.

Jerry, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Squarepusher. I read the interview with him in the NME a while ago, and he just seemed like a complete dick.

"I'm not a bedroom geek, no, I like GURLS, I do!"

Although I guess he did have plenty to say, it wasn't worth saying. Music's good, though.

emil.y, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There was a great feature in The Wire ages ago where it got all the IDM stars and asked them if they'd ever had girlfriends. (NB this was not the point of the feature which was to talk about expanding the boundaries of sound but a side effect)

Tom, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jerry - good point re korn - it seems to me that if *one* muso talks abt suicide, various, uh, "issues" & so on, OK, great etc. If loads of them talk about it, it just seems to become the standard discourse for a certain type of musician = nothing to say. Still, I guess it makes yr job easier, yes?...

Where does most of yer writing appear these days, BTW?

xoxo

Norman Fay, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How can making music possibly be easier than talking? I can't fathom that. If I ran out of things to say, I'd start telling stories, but music is so much harder.

Lyra, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I meant that if an "artist" comes out w/a bunch ov readymade quotes, it maked thee writer's job (IE writing feature on said artist) easier.

xoxo

Norman Fay, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'How can making music possibly be easier than talking?'

Dunno. Ask J Mascis or Neil Hagerty.

dave q, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

...or indeed the fellow from Smog...

My writing doesn't appear anywhere nowadays. Why do you think I'm conrtibuting to this? (Got a new book out though next week. S'pose my publishers would want me to mention that.)

Jerry, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Charlatans. Couldn't remember what they said in interviews three minutes after I'd read it.

Robin Carmody, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Perhaps being erudite goes hand-in-hand with being enthusiastic, so it's a trait that *reduces* coolness. Therefore budding pop stars err towards the quiet and/or dull & polite unless they're absolutely certain they'll be seen as really hip. Hence the infamous Belle & Sebastion silence.

You journos sharp-focus on bursting (or maybe taking control of) the pop star-as-icon myth. And you have editorial control, no wonder our defenses are up.

As for the great lyrics/dumb talking - you have all the time in the world to work on lyrics in private, while speaking in interview is spontaneous.

chris, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

>>How can making music possibly be easier than talking? I can't fathom that. If I ran out of things to say, I'd start >> telling stories, but music is so much harder.

>> -- Lyra

I've seen theorists propose the existence of different types of intelligence--emotional, spatial, etc. Seems to me it's not unlikely that a person could be brilliant in music and less so in verbal skills.

Of course, part of it might be that they steep themselves so much in music, perhaps talking mostly to other musicians about music, that they simply don't know that much about non-music topics. (I have no intent of ranking on him for this, but Travis Morrison last night was out of his depths when he tried to do a Fugazi-style rant about local politics. His heart was in the right place, but the results were cringeworthy.)

j-lu, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have never spoken with Lance Bass of 'NSync, but right now I have the (possibly mistaken) impression that he has the brainpower of a termite.

Dan Perry, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Even more baffling - artists like Eminem and Snoop who are obviously quite adept verbally on record, yet sound lobotomized in interviews. What's that about?

Perhaps they don't take chatting about the world with Joe Sycophant from Rolling Stone as seriously as Jackson Browne might? It's not like their fans fucking READ, anyway.

Did anyone read the interview with the Rock in Rolling Stone? All of a sudden, with no context at all, the writer writes something about how the Rock always wakes up with morning wood. It's like a separate paragraph, with no quotes or anything. It might have been the most jarring thing I've ever read.

Kris, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I READ THAT. I think that tripped every TMI alarm in my brain. The entire rest of the article, I kept waiting for more inappropriate info, like the average weight of his bowel movements or details on his armpit hygiene.

Dan Perry, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is that even particularly noteworthy? I guess I've never really paid enough attention to know if it happens every single morning, but I thought that was part of the point.

Nitsuh, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's not so much that it happens to the guy as it is that he pays attention to the fact that it happens every day and he felt it was interesting enough to tell a reporter who then dedicated TWO PARAGRAPHS of his article to it. In a way, it was like watching Mandingo all over again.

Dan Perry, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

evan dando of lemonheads fame always struck me as being a posterboy for extremely inarticulate yet photogenic rock stars.

Michael Taylor, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

bobby gillespie- most of what i've read in terms of his interviews usually involves him just speaking or singing his song lyrics and then saying something along the lines of, "destroy the system! kick out the jams! i'm sick! drugs! hate! punk!"

mike j, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've got a mixtape with a brief snippet of an Eminem radio interview where he's sarcastic, hilarious, altogether brilliant. Thing is, it was never broadcast - the snippet ends with the interviewer laughing his head off but saying, "I can't use any of this."

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ooh! Transcribe!

I wouldn't call Timabland's interviews stupid, but he's incredibly difficult and insane on them. Witness the wire interview where he complains about the description of his snares as "clean" and insists on how dirty they are, then starts talking about ppl ripping him. Beck interviewed him for Interview magazine and it degenerated into the two of them just shooting the shit.

Snoop's verbal gymnastics have never been that coherent on record either, mind you. Remember with Brian Wilson that the man burnt his brain out on drugs and used to interview quite normally before. Howabout the would-be-insane artists who give quite average interviews?

Sterling Clover, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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