Throbbing Gristle reform for a one off festival - Classic or Dud?

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Part of me is jumping for joy as i was just a tad to young to see them live and TG were such a big part of my musical developement, but part of me thinks do we really need this?

At least it's not as bad as a full-scale 'sex pistols' style reform/world tour.

The story is basically TG will headline their own ATP type festival at Camber Sands, with their separate projects also playing, as well as like-minded artists Lydia Lunch, Richard H Kirk, Black Dice, Merzbow, Scanner.. etc etc.

more details are on their website.

http://www.mute.com/tg/retg.html

actually.. i'm pretty excited...


Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 18 July 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Mego Records is playing? What, the entire label?

Xii (Xii), Friday, 18 July 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

i only wish i could go

Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 18 July 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

classic assuming that it actually happens...

disco stu (disco stu), Friday, 18 July 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

IT BEGINS. i have absolutely no interest in seeing TG reform. but i'm sure they'll manage to spin this out into a new career for themselves.

your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 18 July 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Just looked at P-Orridge's Next-New-Way-On site...so is he permently in drag now? I'm pro-drag but in Genesis's case I'll make an exception, he looks icksville.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 18 July 2003 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Does he still look like Bette Davis circa "Better Living Through Circuitry" documentary?

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 18 July 2003 23:52 (twenty-two years ago)

TG Live - D-U-fuckin'-D.

Trust me on this one!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Saturday, 19 July 2003 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

only the show itself will tell...

looks like it's worth going in any case. more than a few good things in the lineup.

14 May
Coil
Carter Tutti
Black Dice
Lydia Lunch
Alec Empire
Soft Pink Truth
V V E
films + videos

15 May
Thee Majesty
Scanner
Richard H. Kirk
Matmos
Mego Tag Team
Daniel Miller DJ
Project Dark
Big Bottom
People Like Us
Jack Sargent
films + videos

16 May
Throbbing Gristle
PanSonic
Merzbow
Andrew Weatherall DJ
Thighpaulsandra
Jim O'Rourke
Simon Fisher Turner
John Lacey DJ
films + videos

14-16 May
Site specific Artworks by Jake & Dinos Chapman.
Rare film works from the Derek Jarman archive.
Site specific sound installations
24-Hour in-house TV programming.
Exclusive merchandise.
And many more Industrial attractions.

jl (Jon L), Saturday, 19 July 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

fucking brilliant.

Out of all the poosible ways for them to reform, this is the absolutely correct answer. I am not into all of the acts, but there is a lot of music I would love to see. I wish I could make it.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 19 July 2003 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Does he still look like Bette Davis circa "Better Living Through Circuitry" documentary?

Affirmative, only with a slight touch of Carol Channing for good measure

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 19 July 2003 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, genesis is looking pretty, um, betty davis these days isn't he?

and this interview must be read to be believed. genesis p orridge and phil oakley in the same room! (but john foxx, gary numan, and omd nowhere in sight!!)

Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 19 July 2003 04:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i knew about this ages ago - but not the line-up for the event. jeez. was really excited...then saw the price.

priced me out of the game.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Saturday, 19 July 2003 09:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Terrible terrible idea.

Dadaismus (Dada), Saturday, 19 July 2003 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...
From the ATP/RE:TG website -

26th April 2004
BREAKING NEWS RE:TG EVENT MOVED TO LATER DATE!

FOUNDATION / ATP on behalf of Throbbing Gristle are very sorry to have to announce that it will NOT be possible to put on the RE~TG event as planned.

Despite good sales for the event (in excess of 1600 tickets) unexpected cost rises and scheduling complications would have required the festival virtually to sell out before enough funds were generated to put on the RE~TG festival that TG, Paul Smith and Foundation intended.

All ticket holders will be offered a FULL refund from point of purchase OR alternatively can transfer their tickets to a TG curated ATP weekend event at the same venue on April 15 - 17th 2005, at which TG have agreed to give their last ever concert performance.

All the other artists on the current RETG bill will be invited to play then also, and we anticipate the participation of a number of yet-to-be-confirmed 'high-profile' special guests as well.

TG have asked me to pass on their apologies to everyone for this situation, and to stress that the situation was NOT of their doing.

Mindful that many people will have already booked travel to the UK from afar, TG have decided to invite all CURRENT ticket holders to a PRIVATE RECORDING SESSION at a secret location in London on the AFTERNOON of Sunday May 16th- the same day they would have played at RE~TG .

This invitation is FREE and stands, regardless of whether you also select a full refund of your ticket money or to transfer your ticket to ATP 2005. Ticket holders will be notified and details of how this will work will be on the ATP and TG websites in the next few days.

The result of the recording will be a totally new TG work - TGDVD which will be available thereafter. TG also hope to include a list of the names, and maybe even photos of all attendees in the DVD package.

Incidentally, this session (not open to the general public) will also be a unique opportunity to obtain exclusive TG related artifacts, some intended for RE~TG, which are certain to become collectors items as soon as they leave the building.

We are all very sorry to disappoint those looking forward to RE~TG and are working hard to make up, in whatever practical way we can, for this otherwise insurmountable problem.

Barry Hogan
Foundation /ATP
Monday 26th April

hmmm (hmmm), Monday, 26 April 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah. 'sorry'.

(Jon L), Monday, 26 April 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
The exclusive one-off continues in Berlin.

StanM (StanM), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

and all kinds of other news as well: new album, combi-tickets called Übertickets...

StanM (StanM), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

I love this part...

31st December 2005 - 1200 capacity standing event with full Quad Sound system.

yeah, `cos you don't want to miss any of the pithy sonic nuances of, say, "Subhuman" or "Slug Bait", etc.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

US tour in the works...

http://www.losanjealous.com/2009/02/04/throbbing-gristle-to-tour-usa-play-6000-capacity-tent-at-coachella-ucla/
April 16: New York - Brooklyn Masonic Hall
April 19: Coachella (Sunday) (7pm-ish, 6k-capacity tent stage)
April 21: Los Angeles - UCLA
April 23: San Francisco -Grand Regency Ballroom
April 25: Chicago - Epiphany Episcopal

April 21st UCLA gig is apparently TG performing a live soundtrack to the 1980 film In The Shadow Of The Sun

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Thursday, 5 February 2009 01:17 (seventeen years ago)

I am seriously considering a plane ticket to Chicago, that one is two sets.

sleeve, Thursday, 5 February 2009 01:26 (seventeen years ago)

omg

(*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・)   °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 5 February 2009 01:32 (seventeen years ago)

Brooklyn Masonic Hall isn't very big.

dan selzer, Thursday, 5 February 2009 08:21 (seventeen years ago)

urggggh

tylerw, Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

Whoever booked Throbbing Gristle to play a church is inspired and damned.

dad a, Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:49 (seventeen years ago)

They could pull a Tangerine Dream at Reims Cathedral

snoball, Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:52 (seventeen years ago)

Episcopalians are down with Satanism and that sort of thing.

Rockist Scientist (_Rockist__Scientist_), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:21 (seventeen years ago)

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b93/ohmybeautiful1/father-ted-careful-now.jpg

snoball, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:25 (seventeen years ago)

bought my two show pass for the Empty Bottle

Plunge Protection Team, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:26 (seventeen years ago)

looks like tix already gone for nyc show

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:45 (seventeen years ago)

I'm not big on reunions but the endless not was so fucking god, this is just them picking up where they left off

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 5 February 2009 19:49 (seventeen years ago)

I saw them at the Astoria in 2004 and it was almost impossibly good. there's a difference with reunions when every one of the individual members kept at their solo careers. they play the old songs, but they sound new. while at the same time, you actually get to see TG playing things like 'What A Day', which did my head in, it was so alive

Milton Parker, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:09 (seventeen years ago)

burt_stanton will be there. will u?

burt_stanton, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

bought my two show pass for the Empty Bottle

Me too. Any idea what the VIP passes were? Looks like those are gone.

sleeve, Thursday, 5 February 2009 20:19 (seventeen years ago)

grand regency ballroom eh? i don't think i could be more excited

all-seeing eye of horus (psychgawsple), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:43 (seventeen years ago)

In The Shadow of The Sun - TG at their sleepiest!

Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Thursday, 5 February 2009 23:55 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

TG Live - D-U-fuckin'-D.
Trust me on this one!

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, July 18, 2003 5:23 PM (5 years ago)

Well... sort of. Chicago show was certainly not one of the greatest shows I've ever seen, but it was one of the most special just for the fuzzy feelgood family reunion vibes everybody (band included) were feeling. But I was reminded that they really aren't a very technically adept group. The songs didn't have endings, just kind of lurched to a halt. I certainly don't regret the plane ticket.

Strange to think they've spent as long in their reunion phase now as they were together the first time around. So much has happened, two of them lost their life partners, it must be nice to do a tour with what amounts to some of your oldest friends after a few hard years.

setlist, I think:
Very Friendly
Persuasion
Something Came Over Me
new song that fried my brain, Gen played white violin
Almost A Kiss
The Endless Not
another new tune
What A Day
Discipline

sleeve, Sunday, 26 April 2009 17:07 (sixteen years ago)

i was sorta unimpressed, too. the percussion and bass were insanely loud/deep, making it near impossible to hear any of the effects sleazy was doing. they seemed to make a lot of the songs muuuuch faster; "discipline" at the end wound up sounding like some sort of mutated happy hardcore number. which maybe was the point. but i guess i don't like this new digital sheen they're going for. cosey was delightful, tho

also they kept the lights on throughout the show! not a fan of this

i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Sunday, 26 April 2009 17:46 (sixteen years ago)

As a besotted devotee, I was pretty ecstatic about that TG Chicago show. I think the best part was the balance between how totally immersive, spacy, woozy and "formless" (in the best way) the 7 pm "In the Shadow of the Sun" concert was by contrast with the TG-go-pop format of the 10 pm show. They had lots of range. "Very Friendly" was incredible! And I like the insistently clinical bright white lights the whole time- it was a very TG move to make it a little bit alienating and factual. Another good "guarantee disappointment" gesture was to follow their most gruesome track "Hamburger Lady" with the incredibly sentimental "Almost a Kiss"- that's the kind of wrenching jump in sensibility that clearly threw everybody off balance- precisely because you're all moody old goths dressed in black you have to sit in a bright room and hear a crooned/warbled love song- exactly what the fanbase DOES NOT WANT. Gen's stage patter was hilarious too: in response to an audience member saying "turn off the lights", he shot back "But we're GORGEOUS! Don't you want to see us? Four beautiful people in an ugly world. . . . "

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Sunday, 26 April 2009 18:16 (sixteen years ago)

There was plenty to like about the SF show. Genesis' patter was so laid back: 'Who are you twisted people ... ? How did you get this way? Well you didn't get it from us, that's for sure'

But I kept thinking about the thin line between laid-back and bored. The 2004 Astoria show, they were all so acutely uncomfortable and tense with the situation that it just boiled over into the music, by the end of that set I remember Genesis just howling through almost every track, it was transcendent. This definitely felt more like the professional 2009 US tour, all their gear fitting into carry-on bags, the songs trailing off instead of twisting into the next piece...

I got the joke with the lights. They were on bright for the first three songs, then started fading down sllllowly with 'Hamburger Lady' and you could feel the room start to sway, mounting excitement but then halfway through the song the lights started coming up again... we've been had

The sub-100Hz plummeting sweeps at the end during 'Discipline' though, I would have left happy having paid twice, it was just great to see them

Milton Parker, Sunday, 26 April 2009 21:36 (sixteen years ago)

having had a night of sleep and a day of travel has made me appreciate the show more. I was cool with the lights on (it made it easier to admire those crazy open circuit boards Sleazy was messing with), and that "4 beautiful people" line was classic. I think the "Discipline" wasn't necessarily faster, but the rhythm was different. The crowd was fascinating, very mixed in terms of age/gender/race/fashion etc. and the whole "Shadow Of The Sun" part was great, significantly different than the old recorded version (those choral samples!). like being in a black hole of sound and video.

I haven't been to Chicago in 20 years but locals were saying Logan Square wasn't the best place to see bands. I think that explains the weird sound in the 2nd set, Cosey was low in the mix as well.

did anyone else see that they had Gristleizers for sale? during the period when we were waiting outside for the second show some guy came out with one, he said that Chris Carter had given the schematics to a company in Asheville NC and 7 had been made for the tour. He got it signed by the band. somebody asked him how much it was and he said "a lot".

sleeve, Monday, 27 April 2009 10:09 (sixteen years ago)

did anyone buy the exclusive us tour cd?

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Monday, 4 May 2009 14:37 (sixteen years ago)

Probably should have dropped the grand and a half plane fare. Sleazy ruled out an antipodean tour when he was here.

did anyone else see that they had Gristleizers for sale? during the period when we were waiting outside for the second show some guy came out with one, he said that Chris Carter had given the schematics to a company in Asheville NC and 7 had been made for the tour. He got it signed by the band. somebody asked him how much it was and he said "a lot".

more info plz

ambience chaser (S-), Monday, 4 May 2009 14:54 (sixteen years ago)

persuasion sounding HEAVY

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Monday, 4 May 2009 15:46 (sixteen years ago)

more info plz

RE: Gristleizer: it had four dials, I think, two were for Depth and Rate iirc. The implication was that they had only made 7 at this point but would make more. Other than that that's all I know.

I got the CD, it is very abstract in a good, murky, swirly TG way. Minimal vocals. I only listened hard once, but it seemed like the two new songs they performed were not on it.

sleeve, Monday, 4 May 2009 15:58 (sixteen years ago)

there's photos of the new gristleizers on chris carter's flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chris_carter_/3477451084/

apparently the tour cd is outtakes from the desertshore sessions?

a somnambulist in an ambulance (r1o natsume), Monday, 4 May 2009 17:09 (sixteen years ago)

pygmy squirrel's review is pretty much exactly how I felt about the show. No one else has agreed with me! I was not present for the film soundtrack, though

Ivan, Monday, 4 May 2009 23:30 (sixteen years ago)

http://revision3.com/xlr8rtv/genesis/

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 00:49 (sixteen years ago)

WEDNESDAY 17th June - GLASGOW

"Apparition Foretold" - An evening with Throbbing Gristle
Presented by Industrial Records & Optimo in conjunction with Tramway Visual Arts Dept.
at Tramway 1, Glasgow (tramway.org)
Doors open 7.30 pm- TG onstage @ 8 pm
Tickets £20 exclusively from Tramway
By Phone: Tramway Box Office: 0845 330 3501 (calls charged at normal rate)
Monday to Saturday 10am -8 pm . Sunday 12 noon - 6pm
In Person: 25 Albert Drive., Glasgow, G41 2PE
Counter sales from Tuesday to Saturday 10 am - 8pm, Sunday 12 noon - 6pm
Please note their are no online sales for tickets to this event.

Throbbing Gristle’s first ever performance in Scotland!
The evening will consist of two sets by TG - a live film soundtrack to a short film by Cerith Wynn Evans,
and a full TG live set of material from across the groups career.
This second set is based on TG’s recent USA tour set which received ecstatic responses,
to sold out audiences across America.

Cerith Wynn Evans will perform a short DJ set mid evening.
The event is presented in kind collaboration with local heroes and longtime TG supporters, Optimo.
DJ sets by JD Twitch & JG Wilkes.

This event is celebrate the forthcoming August exhibition by the Tramway and the UK premirer of a large scale collaborative sound sculpture piece with international visual artist Cerith Wynn Evans (White Cube Gallery)
entitled “A=P=P=A=R=I=T=I=ON” (2009).
The sculpture was originally shown earlier this year in Japan at the Yokohama Triennale
where the piece drew much attention and praise.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 01:01 (sixteen years ago)

damn, i'll be in Barcelona :(

languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 01:03 (sixteen years ago)

this:

Throbbing Gristle (Late Show)
Additional tickets available now!

Heaven
9 The Arches
Villiers St
London WC2N 6NG
United Kingdom

Support comes in the form of DJ Cerith Wynn Evans.

warmsherry, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 02:22 (sixteen years ago)

Very much enjoyed the interview Stormy posted! I wish it had gone on for a few more hours, though.

Smart, Long, Lifephones (Bimble), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 05:44 (sixteen years ago)

Yes, what a lovely interview.

Krapp's lesser-known First Tape (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 07:11 (sixteen years ago)

Plz to visit Austin TX soon?

(Yeah right...)

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 May 2009 14:26 (sixteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.optimo.co.uk/tgglasgow.jpg

set list for part 2 tonight -

persuasion
live ray
hamburger lady
almost a kiss
springbankistan
what a day
discipline!

stirmonster, Thursday, 18 June 2009 00:06 (sixteen years ago)

assume this board is tapped

nothing short of a total set list!

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Thursday, 18 June 2009 01:10 (sixteen years ago)

http://krakow.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p438758894-3.jpg

krakow, Thursday, 18 June 2009 14:25 (sixteen years ago)


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