Adolf Hitler, What's On Your Walkman?

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What mainstream chart hits have best mined the latent fascism of the public?

I'm thinking of songs like 'I'm Holding Out For A Hero', 'Only The Strong Survive' and 'We Are The Champions', rather than clever ironic fascism like Laibach.

And I think it's safe to assume that Hitler would not have Serge Gainsbourg's 'Rock Around The Bunker' or Mel Brooks' 'The Producers' on his Walkman.

― Momus, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A fair amount of USA mainstream hero-rock from the mid-seventies to the mid-eighties (and beyond) would qualify, I'm guessing -- but naming exact examples could be tricky, because the power-fantasy music might not always match the lyrics (let's name Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'" as a prime example).

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Risin' up, back on the street Did my time, took my chances Went the distance now I'm back on my feet Just a man and his will to survive So many times it happens too fast You trade your passion for glory Don't lose your grip on the dreams of the past You must fight just to keep them alive It's the eye of the tiger It's the thrill of the fight Rising up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor Stalks his prey in the night And he's watching us all With the eye of the tiger Face to face, out in the heat Hangin' tough, stayin' hungry They stack the odds still we take to the street For the kill, with the skill to survive It's the eye of the tiger It's the thrill of the fight Rising up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor Stalks his prey in the night And he's watching us all With the eye of the tiger Risin' up, straight to the top Had the guts, got the glory Went the distance, now I'm not gonna stop Just a man and his will to survive It's the eye of the tiger It's the thrill of the fight Rising up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor Stalks his prey in the night And he's watching us all With the eye of the tiger"

"The Eye of the Tiger" - Survivor

― Kerry Keane, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just noticed that the examples I cited were all sung by gay men or women. I guess what I'm calling fascism is really just an exaggeration of maleness. It's built into the WWF and every Hollywood action flick.

This relates to an article I read in Salon recently about how there are *no* gay small ads saying 'Sissies seek other sissies for hot sex action'. Even effeminate gay men are 'holding out for a hero'.

Women often sing withering songs to men they judge insufficiently masculine or organised -- 'gotta have a J.O.B. if you wanna be with me', or the infamous 'No Scrubs' (Use Other Threads, please).

Then there's the semi-ironic 'why aren't you more of a fascist, darling?' type song, like 'Where Have All The Cowboys Gone' by Paula Cole: 'I will do laundry if you pay all the bills... I will wash the dishes while you go have a beer'. The question is, are the consumers making records like this hits buying into the irony, or the nostalgia? Or both? Would Hitler find Paula Cole politically useful, or 'decadent art'? Would he prefer the mullet rock of Bonnie Tyler and Bryan Adams? Is he listening to Big Country while walking his faithful alsatians?

― Momus, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Re: Eye Of The Tiger. A lot of these songs are about the working man 'under pressure', or the inner city kid who needs to 'fight by the laws of the street' to survive. Or they're about how a hero is 'doing all he can' to help 'you'.

They usually posit their fascism as a kind of Darwinism: 'only the strong survive' etc. But we're meant to understand that this is true only for the rough tough world of the blue-collar worker or inner city outsider. (This jungle is how the inner city is normally represented to people who've taken refuge in the suburbs.)

Fascism is often a tiger crouching behind layers of irony, cf Springsteen's 'Born In The USA'. But artists like Springsteen don't really protest much (by, for instance, refusing to play songs they know the public is misunderstanding) when people read the songs naively, in a 'fascist' way.

― Momus, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was just thinking about how "Eye of the Tiger" was used in one of the Rocky movies, with their race-baiting, and then Sylvester Stallone also did "Rambo"....

― Kerry Keane, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Are we talking those with an anti-fascism message behind the irony? I don't think any were more successful than Born In the USA . I mean, weren't they using it to re-elect Regan for awhile?

The question is: is this subversion too clever for its own good? I mean, if the masses don't catch the irony, its only promoting the idea it meant to counter.

― bnw, Friday, 3 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

speaking of Mel Brooks too does anyone else like that "Hitler Rap" record? it's choice bro! "Heil! simply heil!" "Well hello there folks you remember me/I useta run a litlle joint name a Goimany..."
Nazis are funny!

― master race rock, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I read that article as well. As a defintite Femme i like femmes. Gentleness is a turn on. Body Fascism is not. That said i think Hitler would like German Industrial for its raw power. Its the new Wagner. He also loved common sentiment. Country and Western fills this void now. I think he might love Tim McGraw .

― anthony, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well there was all that flirtation with Fascism of Bowie. I think trance music is fascist. pounding mechanistic beats sound like marching robo feet. ANd its the music of youth who fall in line. Pro- progress, pro-state. And it seems like only brownshirted college students from the suburbs listen to it.

― Mike Hanley, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The irony of Born in The USA is the song is anti-government /vietnam yet people thought of it as a national anthem. (Note: favourite song of freinds' special ed class) By the way, as for butch and femme gays, I heard that one of the reasons the femme gay stereotype came about was that hollywood used to make the gay character be outrageuosly feminine to get the point across becasue they would never just come out and say "And Jimmy here is Gay as Pancakes"

― Mike Hanley, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hitler would listen to all that post industrial folk that have spread everywhere (sol invictus,ostara, ain soph).pop and construction of sexual identity cliches ? yesterday I was thinking about the exotic value of los angeles based 80's glam heavy metal :it was a phenomenon of abstraction of the hard rock heritage of sexism exhibitionism and imbecilic rock n roll lifestile that led to a massive de-masculinization of musicians (in terms of clothes) . motley crue's singer as a nouveau louis XIV . feeling as the last action hero and looking as your mom ?

― francesco, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If there is any 'latent fascism' in the public, and I don't know if it's somewhat self-defeating to believe there is but set that aside, why wouldn't it be 'clever and ironic' like 'The Robots'? The architects of fascism aren't always as thick as their followers (in fact, it wouldn't really be fascism were that the case), no reason 'irony' wouldn't be a part of Goebbels' arsenal.

The Riefenstahl-esque anthems you mention already have enough Aryan overtones to defeat their seriousness, about as threatening as somebody wearing a Nazi outfit to a party. I think 'latent fascism' would be more stirred by something like 'Mull of Kintyre'.

U2's 'Sunday Bloody Sunday' - years hence, whatever Bono 'meant' (assuming he's capable of doing such a thing wholeheartedly) will be buried under not only the martial drums but the characteristic vagueness of the 'stirring' chorus, leaving it to be re-appropriated by would-be world emperors in a way that 'Born in the USA' (too many pesky lyrical details)couldn't be.

― dave q, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The 'working-class' only-the-strong-survive anthems, rock & hip-hop - fantastic example of brainwashing the proles with a moronic ideology that will get half of them killed or incarcerated. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get through life with a philosophy entirely derived from the rousing 'Roll With It' ("Don't ever stand aside, don't ever be denied"), and making entire generations of society's (self-styled or otherwise) cast-offs believe that it isn't is pop music's greatest and most dubious achievement.

― dave q, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As it happens... Ten years or so ago, Paula Cole was the high school homecoming queen (if that means anything to non- Americans) in the very small town where I live. I hope she's grown an ironic bone since. Her family has a nice house.

― X. Y. Zedd, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In addition... isn't there something latently fascistic in the pre- programmed, wind-up dances and gymnastics of all those boy bands? Reminds me all too much of the Hitler Youth in their keen uniforms, marching along to that day's equivalent of pre- programmed beats.

Actually, "Up With People" (a sort of Christian "get happy" travelling revue in the States still going strong after decades of Osmond-like energy expenditure) is the most fascistic thing I've ever witnessed--honestly!

― X. Y. Zedd, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He'd be listening to all the Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, Buddhists, and the rest singing in their school choirs every year at the required Christmas concerts.

― Lyra, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Uh, Madonna.

{ducks}

― Kerry Keane, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Kerry, I was afraid to mention her myself, but as one who remembers the "Express Yourself" video, I think you're not incorrect. I always used to feel that she was telling us we better damn well learn to "express ourselves" or off to the gulag we would go. Seriously.

― X. Y. Zedd, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anyone think we should start a "Joseph Stalin, What's On Your Walkman?" thread, too?

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And I also see that no smart-ass has said that Adolf would be listening to Skrewdriver, oi!, or Emperor.

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

he'd still be into wagner. politicians never like cool music. except clinton, and he still liked fleetwood bastard mac.

― ethan, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hitler, as I recall, sought music he felt expressed the "german national character" -- so I'm sure that folk-revival would we way up on his list. Remember "wag the dog"? Stuff like that.

― Sterling Clover, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Leonard Cohen's "Democracy is Coming to the U.S.A." would seem to fit the bill.

― bnw, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Spandau Ballet's "Musclebound" and "Gold". The Human League's "The Sound Of The Crowd" (fades out with a sample of the Nuremberg rally, *allegedly*). DMX's "What's My Name?". Ludacris's "Southern Hospitality". Mel and Kim's "Showing Out", "Respectable" and "FLM".

― Robin Carmody, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No black music remember. Democracy is the last thing hitler wanted.

― anthony, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Are you saying black people can't be facsist?

― Mike Hanley, Saturday, 4 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There are occasional fascist jews too, but it just doesn't tend to work out too well...

I totally disagree with Robin over Southern Hospitality anyway. And over DMX for that matter. Anger, aggression, self-inflation != fascism.

― Sterling Clover, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am saying Hitler wuld not play Blacks. One look at the Nation of Islam and you have black facists.

― anthony, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*bites tongue.*

*teeth lock neatly into pre-bitten grooves.*

― Sterling Clover, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

never bite your tounge Sterling .If i am wrong tell me.

― anthony, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

heavy metal springs to mind when thinking of a pop genre that fills the hiatus between d&d escapism and pure fascism ,disguised as rebels' music. if "conservative" refers not only to lyrics and implied subtext but also to music then, once again, heavy metal . someone could talk about heterocamp someone (as an italian music critic talking about an horrible record from a german experimental techno producer ) could namedrop "repetition and difference" to me an heavy metal mixtape is what good ol' adolf would be listening

― francesco, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The 'Would Hitler play black music?' question has stumbled on something interesting - I've heard NWA described as 'the KKK's favorite rappers', and it seems like gangsta rap would comfortably fit some racist fantasies the same way the 'wild, untamed' orientalisms of the 20s titillated white audiences. The most frightening thing for any Nazi would be an all-black orchestra playing Wagner and ripping the shit out of it.

Of course, this doesn't mean artists should refrain from playing with various stereotypes for fear it would re-affirm the convictions of some pathetic idiots.

― dave q, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Someone has to say something about "Godspeed You Black Emperor!" soon.

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sterling: I agree with what Dave Q says with the addition that the records I mentioned sound to me overwhelmingly *strict* rhythmically: as though there is a desire to force everyone into line, get them ready. I've only goosestepped to two records, and one of them is "What's My Name".

A rather obvious choice which I don't think anyone has mentioned thus far: "Live Is Life" by Opus, which is the *other* record that has had me goosestepping.

― Robin Carmody, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

A thought: Chuck D endorsed Farrakhan's "Hitler was a great man" comment by suggesting that he meant that Hitler was a powerful man, a great organiser of man, not a *good* man: great in the objective sense of admiring someone's authority rather than the subjective sense of admiring what they actually thought or said or did.

So I think it *is* possible for even the most militantly "black" music to bring on suggestions of Nazism, or at least a crypto-fascist sense of the control of the crowd. By those criteria, I would actually nominate Public Enemy's "Rebel Without A Pause" for this thread, awesome as it is: had it been released as part of a counter- movement under Hitler or someone like him, it would have sounded, in its own way, every bit as violent-authoritarian as that which it would have ostensibly stood against.

― Robin Carmody, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hitler would be into Limp Bizkit. He would also approve of N'sync, Backstreet, Britney etc. for the influence they wield over America's (and international) youth-and their mass lowest-common-denominator appeal. Hitler loved his musical propoganda!

― turner, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe some glib foax did describe NWA as the KKK's favorite rap band -- but how many racists have you ever known to actually *listen* to rap, NWA or otherwise? There's an anathema there. Which is generally the same reason that a mass black facist movement in america is bunk -- black ppl. would be the first *targets* of any fascist movement. DMX's "what's my name" seems for me to carry too much emotional baggage of pain and hurt to be an anthem (sort like a more violent comfortably numb, if anything), and I rilly have no idea how Southern Hospitality fits at all.

― Sterling Clover, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I realize that black men would be the first on the boxcars , at least in the united states .That said i think there is a paramiltary aspect to the Nation of Islam that is facist . Or can a restince movemnet be facist ? If you listen to Malcom Xs speeches w/o context they are frightenig. The anger and the energy can and did encourage violent restience.

― anthony, Sunday, 5 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dance Band Rules And Regulations During The 3rd Reich

In the repertoire of light orchestras and dance bands, pieces in fox-trot rhythm (so-called swing) are not to exceed 20%;

In the repertoire of this so-called jazz type, preference is to be given to compositions in a major key and to lyrics expressing joy in life ("Kraft durch Freude"), rather than Jewishly gloomy lyrics;

As to the tempo, too, preference is to be given to brisk compositions as opposed to slow ones (so-called blues); however, the pace must not exceed a certain degree of allegro commensurate with the Aryan sense for discipline and moderation. On no account will negroid excesses in tempo (so-called hot jazz) be permitted, or in solo performances (so-called breaks);

So- called jazz compositions may contain at the most 10% syncopation; the remainder must form a natural legato movement devoid of hysterical rhythmic references characteristic of the music of the barbarian races and conducive to dark instincts alien to the German people (so- called "riffs");

Strictly forbidden is the use of instruments alien to the German spirit (e.g. so-called cowbells, flex-a-tone, brushes,etc.) as well as all mutes which turn the noble sound of brass-wind instruments into a Jewish-Freemasonic yell (so-called wa- wa, in hat, etc.);

Prohibited are so-called drum breaks longer than half a bar in four quarter beat (except in stylized military marches);

The double bass must be played solely with the bow in so-called jazz compositions; plucking of strings is prohibited, since it is damaging to the instrument and detrimental to Aryan musicality. If a so-called pizzicato effect is absolutely desirable for the character of the composition, let strict care be taken lest the string is allowed to patter on the sordine, which is henceforth forbidden;

Provocative rising to one's feet during solo performance is forbidden;

Musicians are likewise forbidden to make vocal improvisations (so-called scat);

All light orchestras and dance bands are advised to restrict the use of saxophones of all keys and to substitute for them violon-celli, violas, or possibly a suitable folk instrument.

Signed, Baldur von Blodheim
Reichsmusicfuhrer und Oberscharfuhrer SS

Nazis preemptively ban jungle 50-60 years before it is invented!

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

so what category would tunes by artists such as the Frogs, who are straight (i believe) males singing songs from a gay males perspective in an ultimately ironic manner ("Men (come on men)", "Sailors board me now", "God is gay").

Fascist? Ultimately uber-masculine or uber-non-masculine?

― sethp, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tracer : Source plaese

― anthony, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

All light orchestras and dance bands are advised to restrict the use of saxophones of all keys and to substitute for them violon-celli, violas, or possibly a suitable folk instrument.

Spiteful little prejudices like that make the Fuhrer more sympathetic than film of him with large killer dogs. If only saxophones had been the only victims of his genocide.

― Momus, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was going to say Queen's "One Vision", but I already mentioned it on the 'chickens' thread.

― dave q, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He would listen to Wagner. But who could blame him? Wagner = cool.

― Kodanshi, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Whatever music you choose would be accompanied by line dancing.

"Now if only I could get them to form a swastika..."

― james, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

http://www.shellac.org /wams/wnazi02.html

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Thanks. I wanted the source before i mailed it out.

― anthony, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Flame me on this if you disagree, but *I* think all music is intrinsically anti-fascist. While language can be fascist (obviously).

― mark s, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd *never* flame you, Mark, but I don't agree. I think there is music written for a specific fascist or quasi-fascist purpose, though obviously only a very small percentage of *all* music.

― Robin Carmody, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Robin: Would anything you mentioned here fall under "music written for a specific fascist or quasi-fascist purpose"? Any further examples? Just curious.

Who was the Leni Riefenstahl of the German music scene?

― Mark, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think the example you're looking for is the 'Horst Wessel Song' - 'die fahne hoch' etc

― dave q, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Also, some of the songs taught to schoolchildren in Japan in the 1930's - "The cowardly chinks are running now, pigtails waving in the breeze"

― dave q, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mark: Flame me on this if you disagree, but *I* think all music is intrinsically anti-fascist. While language can be fascist (obviously).

Well, to paraphrase the pro-gun lobby, it's not music or language which kills, but people. There is nothing intrinsically fascist in the 26 letters of the alphabet or the 12 notes of the musical scale, but they can be put together in fascist ways.

But it's easier with language. Music, like colour or scent, has much vaguer meanings. There is no combination of musical notes which says 'kill jews', although some heavy Pavlovian conditioning might eventually associate certain melodies and arrangements with such an idea (usually brass bands or folk revival of indigenous styles, but it could be anything. That's the point of Pavlov).

So music itself cannot be 'intrinsically' either fascist or anti- fascist. It's only by association that it becomes those things, and only in certain times and places. For instance, the folk tune which triggers genocidal impulses circa 1940 might be used by the Green Party circa 2000.

Charlton Heston had it right, bless 'im. Guns don't kill, people do.

― Momus, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Or "Revolution" might be used by Nike.

― Mike Hanley, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually Momus, while yr. point is fairly valid, it seems worthwhile to point out that the Nazis and Green party both are making fairly similar nationalist appeals based on the culture of the German countryside. Altho, of course, the appeals are to relatively disparate ends.

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

OK: think of "Tomorrow Belongs to Me" in Cabaret (movie version). Is it a Nazi song or an anti-Nazi song? Well, both: the characters that are singing it, jopinging in, respnding, are Nazis: it represents community and declaration for them. But the others – and the film-makers and US — are backing away: to us this = the iconic threat. The deep weapon against Nazism is the awareness/ revelation that the Nazi community is NOTHING OF THE KIND (a. it's divided against itself; b. it lives — culturally, economically — off what it insists it will demolish). When we were talking abt Skrewdriver on a thread long ago, I began obsessing abt the "anti-fascist hi-hat": OK, what I mean by this is the music-collectivity even of a Nazi Rock Group is *not* seamless or monolithic, tho it may well appear so. Listen closely, and you hear difft histories or intentions tug away from one another: this does not REDEEM the music (necessarily), but it provides a point of entry and rewiring. Cultural/political/social disarray = underlying truth of fascism. The music cannot but reflect that, somehow.

Momus, how wd YOU record the Horst Wessel song, to turn it against itself?

― mark s, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

a)Separating musical components from their associations is necessary in wider contexts, but not very useful in this one.

b)I suspect (I could be mistaken) that people are evaluating fascists as if they are weird and alien creatures from outer space or Hell itself, when the major lesson of the 20th Century would appear to be that they're NOT. (People who congratulate themselves for not being fascists = dangerous dud)

― dave q, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That scene was so chillign because it was so ambigous and cold.

― anthony, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Following on from dave q: so I shd also obsess — maybe — abt the FASCIST hi-hat in [insert here whatever non-fascist music you choose to adore]. Anyway, at the risk of turning into T.W.Adorno before your very eyes-ah, what I guess I'm imagining is that the deeper you go into how music works and what it is, the harder it is for you to turn round and use said music in a Nazi manner. Awareness of conflictedness; awareness of the inevitable fascist spasm; awareness that there but for the grace of... Name me a music this isn't a part of also, once you push down past the way it wants to loved and bought, to the muscles and brains and plans and mistakes that ACTUALLY MADE IT...

― mark s, Thursday, 9 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Coming off mark's point -- phaps art in itself cannot help but be revolutionary, but art as it becomes stripped of itself and transformed into a reified social signifier increasingly becomes reactionary?

― Sterling Clover, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Depends on who or what is doing the reifying, and why

― dave q, Friday, 10 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three months pass...

He would definetly listen to bands that are considered Fascist BLack Metal. There is an actual orginization. Swastikas and pentagrams on the website. Wagner.

― Aleksandr Werning, Saturday, 10 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Only the Strong shall survive / through their Love of Life"
- Swans "Love of Life

― Lord Custos, Sunday, 11 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

five years pass...

Stumbled on this thread and now I can't stop imagining Hitler belting out "We Are the Champions" with a bunch of drunken henchmen in his bunker right before his death. Way to breath life back into a dead song with those visuals.

― Cunga, Monday, 17 September 2007 06:21 (eighteen years ago)

What a shit idea for a thread this was.

― paulhw, Monday, 17 September 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

He is interviewed in today's Guardian.

― PJ Miller, Monday, 17 September 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

Hitler is?

― latebloomer, Monday, 17 September 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

Surely, "Final Solution" by Pere Ubu.

― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

What a shit idea for a thread this was.

-- paulhw, Monday, September 17, 2007 4:28 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

how come in six years no-one gave the real answer?

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

i.e. Momus

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

Hitler didn't fuck chi...

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

i think he's more about japanese, actually.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

I can’t believe no one mentioned that Hitler’s record collection has been found. Alex Ross writes a piece on it on his blog (http://www.therestisnoise.com/2007/08/hitlers-record-.html).

― Mr. Goodman, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

Momus's new protege is my flatmate's ex-boyfriend. She's now dating the guy who animates the Coco Pops in the Coco Pops advert.

― Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

sounds like upward mobility to me.

― John Justen, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

ned thinks journey are nazis!!!

― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

six years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Oqo_2ddq4

― just got dope puppy (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:30 (twelve years ago)

Nico

― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)

"We Are Young"

― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Thursday, 21 November 2013 02:34 (twelve years ago)

"Blacks Out" Crew, judging by the video

― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 21 November 2013 11:39 (twelve years ago)

✓

― just got dope puppy (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 21 November 2013 11:51 (twelve years ago)

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