Gotan Project: Bid for Blab

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Okay, unimaginative RFI question, but do you guys have a feel on this? Its damning vibe for me is that it's very tasteful - downtempo live breakbeats married sinuously to tango and gypsy music. But that these two things should go together in the first place seems like perversity of the highest order!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I've loved this album for like a year and a half, but I'm always shy about exposing myself to criticisms of enjoying dinner party music.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Dinner party music is what you make of it. Muslimgauze can work just as easily, f'r instance.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 05:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard it a couple of years ago; they've re-released it now, right? The dramatics of tango fit fell into the hip hop mould, good stuff.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

but Ned, I'm talking about stuff that gets branded "dinner-party music" or lounge music or whatever. I think those 'Hotel Costes' mixes are sublime (there are a ton of really bad knock offs), but there's probably not a lot to talk about.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 07:14 (twenty-two years ago)

How about what's on the menu?

I mean, Ned - what the hell do you serve up with Muslimgauze?

Michael Dieter, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 07:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i really like the Gotan Project in small doses. If the entire album is on I get a lil bored but in snatches i really enjoy it.

as to tango and dub being surprising, Grace Jones "Libertango"

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 07:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know if its been rereleased. It was on the new releases section at my local indie store, I asked the clerk if it'd been rereleased and he said "No, they've just sent a load out for some reason".

Good album though, even if it does get a bit too much over the course of 40 minutes.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:41 (twenty-two years ago)

live it's even more of a battle, mixing tango with KRS-One and Eminem...
heavy beats, great style. With dancers.

the album's been rereleased recently, now including 3 extra live tracks

daarkbee, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:43 (twenty-two years ago)

bid for meh... it's just an ok record, not good, not bad just wallpaper

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 08:47 (twenty-two years ago)

saw first some forty-five minutes of Gotan Pr. live footage on the Arte channel (prior to hearing any recordings by them) and i was totally captivated by the, d'uh, 'sound and vision'.

listeneing to the album later on wasn't quite as fascinating, must admit.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 09:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree. I like the album ok but only "in small doses" as H says or also works ok as driving music. Live, though, completely different - they are magical.

ArfArf, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the dynamics, the start-stop of the tango. When it's on it's almost impossible NOT to sashay around the living room, and then these huge dramatic pauses make you pull up short for dramatic effect. It makes me wish that I knew how to dance!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

are you sashaying ariound yr living room right now?

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

"and what, heh-eh, are you wearing!"

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

no i R at work but seriously, it's like a Mentos commercial or something, if it were on my headphones I'd "forget where I was" and start the sashay

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

but Ned, I'm talking about stuff that gets branded "dinner-party music" or lounge music or whatever.

Oh, right -- well, just hide the sleeve and be vague when someone asks about the music. Take the Erik Satie approach and make it music to be ignored.

I mean, Ned - what the hell do you serve up with Muslimgauze?

Throw on Zul'm, get a good rice dish going, some lavash, dates for dessert maybe...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

the Gotan Project deserves jamon and cheese tucked into a red-and-white checked tablecloth and slung over one shoulder; 1 (one) bottle of cava; 1 (one) nice linen shirt

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(and 1 (one) hot date)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

you got me listening to it for the first time in ages, actually really enjoying it but no sashaying impulses so far

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 18:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Dinner music? Maybe on disc and the volume down to a conversation appropriate level, but once you've seen the Gotan Project live, it quickly transcends dismissive classification(s) into the full-on sublime melancholy one might expect from tango mixed with beats.

I was fortunate enough to catch them at Le Fest de Jazz de Montréal and honestly expected little more than the primary trio armed with decks, effects (i.e. a laptop), & a bandoneon (i.e. the squeezebox resembing an accordion in sound and appearance, except square, not rectangular).

What I witnessed instead was bombastic. Honestly Bjork's was the the last live show to gave me such goosebumps.

Gotan Project tours with: a guitarist, a violinist, a live vocalist, a percussionist plus the expected decks, laptop, and bandoneon. For the first 75% of the show they ran various tango scenes (some bits from their video(s)) on a large translucent screen through which the audience could watch GP perform, while naturally the tango images remained at the forefront. Although the images weren’t exactly in sync with the music, they were damn close enough.

The Gotan Project was exceptionally well rehearsed - never missing a beat or dropping a note and the audience reaction was noticeably appreciative. The Gotan Project simply couldn't leave the stage - well, not until three encores were finished.

So while it might ring true that, as previously stated, the Gotan Project might be well-suited for dinner music given the proper conditions. But if you allow their sound, their entire disc, to envelope you, there's much more to be had.

PS, Ironically, according to my expectations and the witnessed results, The Gotan Project opened for The Cinematic Orchestra by which I was again disappointed. Their live vocalist took unnecessary liberties and worse yet, their bassist didn't play an upright. And the energy? Maybe the crowd was exhausted after the Gotan Project’s set, but they easily and handily rocked CO off the stage. This too was captured in the audience's reaction (with many leaving not even midway through CO’s set). I didn’t. I stuck it out until a little past halfway through CO’s set. In retrospect I should have left immediately following the Gotan Project…Less tarnish on the memory, you know?

nader (nader), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
anticipate here!

new album "Lunatico" on the way v.soon.

last post ever (fandango), Monday, 6 March 2006 00:00 (twenty years ago)

I've never heard the earlier one, but Lunatico is damn good.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 6 March 2006 00:53 (twenty years ago)

The previous one was (to me) something of an awakening to the potential world of "dance" beyond the electronic/disco/house music filter and the immediate present, and that it could do just as well like that if I could open my ears to more traditional/world stuff... and it's a potential source of listening I've still barely followed up on or investigated (shamefully).

last post ever (fandango), Monday, 6 March 2006 01:45 (twenty years ago)

eleven months pass...
going to see them live in two days..

willem -- (willem), Thursday, 8 February 2007 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Dinner music? Maybe on disc and the volume down to a conversation appropriate level, but once you've seen the Gotan Project live, it quickly transcends dismissive classification(s)

I do not consider describing something as "dinner party music" to be dismissive!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 8 February 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I didn't give 'Lunatico' enough of a chance, but it seemed like a quite incredibly blah follow up...

No way is the first 'wallpaper'! There's very few records I've played quite as much as that one this decade.

about:coffee (fandango), Thursday, 8 February 2007 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I've seen them live. Far too similar to the records, and they played the first half of the set behind a gauze screen. Disappointing. Lunatico is more of the same, but somehow gets away with it.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

Gotan are brilliant.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 9 February 2007 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

Spencer you should check out the Luftkastellet compilations also, different lounge to Costes and Gotan, more Euro and electronic but really amazing...

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 9 February 2007 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

Luftkastellet compilations, seconded.

Robot Chant (robotchant), Friday, 9 February 2007 02:04 (nineteen years ago)


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