Who has the best stage moves?

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I guess it doesn't have to be a stage, it could be the interior of the neon spaceship from the video or whatever. My roommate talks about the first time he saw Royal Trux, he said Neil and Jennifer just stood with their backs to the audience the whole time. He says it like it was disappointing, but he can't hide a glint of admiration in his voice. So whatever definition you want!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Mick Jagger.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 25 July 2003 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Lemmy.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Friday, 25 July 2003 04:30 (twenty-two years ago)

international noise conspiracy. man talk about punkrockcaberet. truely sensational.

gallantseagull, Friday, 25 July 2003 04:54 (twenty-two years ago)

man talk about punkrockcaberet

but man don't say much!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 05:01 (twenty-two years ago)

gene simmons ...

the monkey-boy bass player from Archers of Loaf ...

the singer from My Morning Jacket ...

tk, Friday, 25 July 2003 05:04 (twenty-two years ago)

oh yeah, and tim kinsella ...

tk, Friday, 25 July 2003 05:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Robert Pollard, from Guided by Voices. He's a kid pretending to be Roger Daltrey, but instead of hiding in his bedroom, he's onstage.

Rob Codey, Friday, 25 July 2003 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

That's the best because of why???

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

(that question addressed to ALL the responses so far by the way!!)

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 05:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Of the top of my head, Prince.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 25 July 2003 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)

carrie brownstein. BY FAR.

da, Friday, 25 July 2003 05:31 (twenty-two years ago)

when I first saw the pixies kim deal was "hanging ten" on the edge of the stage slowly rocking back & forth & looking totally insane w/ shit-eating grin & eyes rolled back in head. that was cool.

HR from Bad Brains actually levitated in front of me. holy shit.

the guy from Coachwhips had some great intense schtick lately like stabbing fingers into his forehead like "aaagh! youuuu don't understand what is in here but you are gonna get it AAAARGH!"

Mark from Missing Foundation/Spitters
Jello.

I always loved the ol' scarf-on-mic-stand. Aerosmith Rules.

autovac (autovac), Friday, 25 July 2003 05:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry. I'm not a fan, but Pete Townshend owns this thread. A showman extraordinaire.

Johnny Rotten too.

You'd have to say Elvis, then, though.

Oh, and James Brown.

David A. (Davant), Friday, 25 July 2003 05:34 (twenty-two years ago)

And Iggy

David A. (Davant), Friday, 25 July 2003 05:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Townshend's better than anybody mentioned here but you're NOT a fan?? It's not the kiddie porn is it :(? Do you mean Pete Townshend is like good in some objective "showman" way but, like Romanian circus tumblers, you don't personally get into it? If it's the MUSIC you don't like well I can understand that but here's my thing: good moves instantly make me a fan! Maybe when I get the CD back on at home I'll think it's crap, but for those moments that I'm watching the good moves totally win me. (Or totally turn me off; I saw Pollard at the Siren Fest a couple of years ago (1 year ago?) and his stadiumisms just turned me SO off. You have to wear it well, he was forcing it.) I think Nikka Costa has got great moves (way better than Peaches, who stole the whole raunchy side of her career right out from under NC!) and I actually like her record a lot, too. There are Prince songs I wouldn't tolerate listening to for 5 seconds that I'd be rapt over if it comes on some re-run of the Sinbad Show and I get to see him do his thing. You know? I'd be a Prince fan just for that.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 06:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Tracer, I'm serious. When I was a teenager, I had a good friend who was a Who fanatic, bought every piece of wax that ever held their name, etc. I consequently heard a lot of Who stuff. I kind of liked a fair bit of it, but I probably wouldn't have without his constant fanaticism, and the fact we lived next door to each other.

One day, he told me he'd bought me tix for not just one, but two shows (Birmingham and Manchester) on their latest UK tour. So I went along. Fuck, it was free, why not? And I knew a lot of their material, thanks to him (his name was Stuart).

At the time, I was listening to a lot of post-punk (ha, I still do), and I'd seen the Pistols live, etc., but the Who blew me away. Townshend was incredible. This is so way before the kiddie porn arrest that that sorry chapter is irrelevant. The Who were simply one of the best live acts I'd ever seen -- and they still are.

Yet I still own little of their music. Can't really explain or justify it, but it makes sense on an intuitive level (ha!).

Good moves don't necessarily make me a fan, but they sure predispose me more toward liking a band/performer. But the opposite isn't really the case, either. I just saw Nina Nastasia, for instance, and she has no moves, but her show was amazing, magical.

Moves can be great, and can lead you into fandom, but as often they can be empty. It's not an either/or situation.

David A. (Davant), Friday, 25 July 2003 06:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Hands down winner: morrissey

Ramon (Ramon), Friday, 25 July 2003 06:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Florian Schneider playing his pocket calculator. Behind his back. Under his thigh.

OleM (OleM), Friday, 25 July 2003 07:31 (twenty-two years ago)

g.g. allin had the best moves...bowel ones, that is

manuel, Friday, 25 July 2003 07:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Prince or Jon Spencer

Jim Eaton-Terry (Jim E-T), Friday, 25 July 2003 08:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Beck! How can you resist "the group slide"?

Alexis (Alexis), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Robert Wyatt

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 25 July 2003 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Elizabeth Fraser and Alison Goldfrapp seem to have perfected the art of beating themselves up on stage as they sing..... bending their fingers back, thumping their bosoms and hitting their own faces.... it's a good look.

russ t, Friday, 25 July 2003 09:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Roisín Murphy from Moloko not only has the best dance moves, she also climbs into the band's organ with both feet dangling in the air. Therefore she wins.

JoB (JoB), Friday, 25 July 2003 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I know there's a lotta Calvin hate here, but damn, I gotta nominate him and Heather Dunn in Dub Narcotic Sound System. He's like James Brown doing fast-moving Tai Chi.

In the "crazy, arms-flailing" department, I pick Eye (Boredoms) and the lead singer of Six Finger Satellite.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Friday, 25 July 2003 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Bob Dylan is the only person I've seen make spitting look cool. He played an amusement park in Connecticut in 1988 during a raging downpour. Right before he went into the first verse of the first song – a tear-it-up "Subterranean Homesick Blues" – he let a big wad go flying stage left. After the show people were still talking about it with awe.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Friday, 25 July 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave Vanian and Captain Sensible.

They're both phenomenal frontmen in their own unique and distinctive ways (Dave as the suavest, most debonair corpse in the rock 'n' roll graveyard and Cappers as the most hilariously funny, yet down-to-earth, beer 'n' fags, geezer ever to walk onto a stage dressed in a nurses uniform / tutu / Womble suit / ballgown and Carmen Miranda hat / his birthday suit and call Princess Di a fuckin' old slapper and the rest of the Royal family a bunch of ungrateful, inbred, free-loading parasites); but the fact that they look and act as if they don't even belong on the same planet let alone the same stage somehow makes the gloriously chaotic whole of a (good) Damned gig even greater than the sum of it's (quite clearly certifiable) parts.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 25 July 2003 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Other performers I've seen who are completely captivating and / or somehow just ooze charisma imho: Kirk Brandon, Jaz Coleman, Ian Curtis, John Lydon, Morrissey, Pete Murphy and (you're going to hate me for saying this but I'm afraid I have to) Gary Glitter.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 25 July 2003 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Kirk Brandon - whatta blast from the past. 'Lierator' - still sounds great. What's he up to now? He used to squat in Brighton at a mate of mine's house when he was shagging Boy George (and yes, they did. Often).

Morrissey goes without saying.... noty too sure about Pete Murphy, though.... too derivative in all ways to be of interest I think.

russ t, Friday, 25 July 2003 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Have I had this conversation about Kirk with you before on another forum Russ, or have I just bumped into two people online who knew Kirk (and George) in Brighton?

I haven't actually seen Kirk for several years but he seems to keep resurrecting both Theatre Of Hate and Spear Of Destiny (I believe he even did a small tour as / with both bands 2-3 years back) as well as having another band called 10:51. He also did a US tour a year or 2 back with a bunch of other largely forgotten '70's / '80's heroes (Slim Jim Phantom from The Stray Cats, Mike Peters from The Alarm, Glen Matlock and Billy Duffy of The Cult and of course Theatre Of Hate) under the title Dead Men Walking, and I gather they're touring the UK later this year http://www.kirkbrandon.net/tourdates/

I may just have to pop along to one of those now!

Pete Murphy, I always thought there was something incredibly intense about him that just kept me transfixed and he could be extraordinarily graecful in his movements too, like a kind of deranged ballet dancer.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 25 July 2003 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Ben Harper

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 25 July 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Angelo Moore. (Fishbone) If you can call them "moves".

btw, Mick Jagger is a twat. All of those moves are choreographed and he reads them from a teleprompter. ("Bitch Walk" is fuggin' hilarious tho.)

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 25 July 2003 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Shannon Wright

weirdest, AND best.

argh. (bloodandsparkles), Friday, 25 July 2003 12:33 (twenty-two years ago)

ben harper!? yes, he looks -good,- but his "stage moves"? you've got to be kidding me!

i second the Beck nomination. give the man a crown. (and corin or whatever - the slim one - from SLeater-kinney had her shit together, too.)

Sean M (Sean M), Friday, 25 July 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

(you're going to hate me for saying this but I'm afraid I have to)

I hated you more for the Peter Murphy thing.

Xii (Xii), Friday, 25 July 2003 12:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave225 is so on the money he's gonna be picking quarters out of his ass-hairs. You've got "moves" a la Jagger/Beck/etc., and then you've got MOVES. Angelo Moore...totally.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 25 July 2003 12:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I love what Grand Buffet does onstage: backflips, chickenfighting, running around in the audience with a miner's helmet on. And Lord Grunge's fat-white-man two-step thing. Everytime I see them I feel lucky. This is probably my most obvious case of stage moves making me a fan. (Which doesn't always happen. The International Noise Conspiracy look great onstage, but I still don't listen to their records or anything.)

Also, I love bands with hype-men/dancers/cheerleaders. The Prodigy was great live, and they were basically just a dude with sequencers, two hype-men and a dancer. Avail's cheerleader is great, and so is Spliff Star. I was the dancer for a terrible high school punk band once, and holy crap that was fun.

Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

My friend showed me this old tape once of all these live punk bands from the 70's. One band, Gang Of Four, were just going absolutely crazy. The singer was staring into space rocking back-and-forth on his heels like he was on acid. The guitarist was brutally attacking his guitar and hopping around all over the stage; i'm sure you could see blood dripping from his hand like he wasn't even using a plectrum! I'm not sure if this is the best because they were trying to look cool, or trying to look silly, or just responding physically to the music they were making. Whatever, it was a spectacle.

sean g, Friday, 25 July 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Andy Gill roxor.

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

David Eugene Edwards, on a barstool, eyes transfixed at some indefinite point way back (behind the audience or eerily looking upwards) kicking his boots frantically and apparently randomly when an intense bandoneon (or guitar, but the bandoneon looks way better) part calls for such action.

willem (willem), Friday, 25 July 2003 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Pete Murphy, I always thought there was something incredibly intense about him that just kept me transfixed and he could be extraordinarily graecful in
his movements too, like a kind of deranged ballet dancer.

Though he's calmed down some a bit with time, he's still got it -- at last year's show, the take on "Your Face," him on a darkened stage cupping a small light in his hands, executing a slow, graceful swirl on stage, was simply breathtaking.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

mark kozelek has no stage presence nor moves.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 25 July 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

how in the hell I forgot Prince is beyond me.

The winner in a knockout - Prince.

tk, Friday, 25 July 2003 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Stewart - we may have had this conversation before.... not sure.... but Stef, an old mate of mine, used to take them tea in bed every morning!

That band.... Dead Men Walking..... hmmm.... could be interesting, if only to see how they've all aged (they look ok on the website).

I always loved SOD and TOH - both should have had far more mainstream success.

russ t, Friday, 25 July 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Missy Elliot and the way the insinuates herself into her pack of pop-lockin, big-pause-takin back-up dancers in her videos is ALWAYS awesome. Beck doesn't come close, I'm afraid!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 25 July 2003 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Ian McCulloch, while subdued, always strikes interesting poses.

christoff (christoff), Friday, 25 July 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Capleton.

cybele (cybele), Friday, 25 July 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

have read that ? of (? & the mysterians) was the grooviest mover on stage in his day but didnt think much of it until i sawr him perform down southside Dallas...i would like to say he is the winner. During one song, he alternately did the splitz and spasmed his entire body. it was the funniest and most exiting thing i've ever seen live.

thomas de'aguirre (biteylove), Friday, 25 July 2003 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

dave gahan has quite the legendary microphone-stand-helicopter move

Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 25 July 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Shannon Wright--weirdest, AND best.

Truly awesome; but when I saw her, she was opening for Nick Cave, who's gotta be a main contender.

Ian McCulloch, while subdued, always strikes interesting poses.

Coolest subdued rockstarist thing I've ever seen: at an Electrafixion show, Ian stalks out for the encore with his first cigarette of the night hanging from the corner of his mouth, where it remains for the entirety of "The Killing Moon"; otherwise motionless, Ian plays only the one big chord (you know the one) whenever it comes up. Total cowboy.

Oh, and nice to see Pete M. get some props. (If you don't give him his due in at least the showmanship regard, I dunno what to say ...)

, Friday, 25 July 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Prince at the end of Purple Rain OMG... the sweetest declaration of love ever.

Aaron A., Friday, 25 July 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone except Carrie B is wrong.

John Maynard is the cheese.

Leee (Leee), Friday, 25 July 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Peter Garrett, particularly in Midnight Oil's Goat Island concert vid (early-mid 80s?) = tall, gaunt, bald, grim-faced, sweat-spraying, Spastic Robot Outta Control.

Poppy (poppy), Saturday, 26 July 2003 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Holy shit, when I was in high school I saw this group of kids, I think they were all siblings, in the basement of my local american legion building. They were two girls who played cheap casio-type keyboards sitting very straight and proper facing each other, and a guy with a cape and underwear (briefs) on his face like a mask who did super-hero poses while crazy punk-shout/singing. I only ever heard their "hit single" once, but I pretty much memorized the lyrics:

They came in the night
and they stole my bike
and they threw it in the river

Went to the police
they arrested me
and they threw me in the river

I FOUND MY BIKE!!!!


(I don't know anything about punk, so that could be a cover for all I know, but I don't think so)

Dan I., Saturday, 26 July 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

John Maynard is the cheese.

Bloody ell, I meant Maynard from Tool.

Leee (Leee), Saturday, 26 July 2003 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan that song is the BOMB.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 26 July 2003 05:37 (twenty-two years ago)

No love for Angus Young?????

Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 26 July 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Stipe.

Joseph Cotten, Sunday, 27 July 2003 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Carrie B, Iggy, and I'll defend Ben Harper because he totally does everything without moving...he somehow makes you feel dizzy without getting up from his seat. Also, David Byrne.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 27 July 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Iggy, Calvin, and Angus.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 27 July 2003 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

paul stanley. foxy dancing.

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 27 July 2003 05:28 (twenty-two years ago)

JAMES MOTHERFUCKING BROWN!!!

Evan (Evan), Sunday, 27 July 2003 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)

For sheer instensity Angus kicks everybody into a hat, Siegbran, I agree.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Keith Richards. He sort of invented what bad-ass guitar players are supposed to do with their guitars. My favorite move of his is where he abruptly drops his shoulders and his whole body into a sudden skulk, and aims the neck of his guitar towards somebody, or towards nobody. Often he'll pull his pick UP across the strings for the next chord, hanging his pick-hand up in the air on some imaginary hook, like a marionette designed to play rock n roll.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 27 July 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Lots of nice nominees with cute anecdotes... however, I think none of you have ever seen Fishbone.

dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 28 July 2003 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)

But imagine if Fishbone started playing "Thunderstruck"!!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 July 2003 12:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Angus and Timothy Adrian Rogers own this thread.

Chris Radford (Chris Radford), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
Rudy Sarzo would lick the bass,
then Ozzy'd pick up Randy, whose licks (and hair) were perfect,
while they hung a midget.

Boy, those were the days.

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Friday, 25 March 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)


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