peaches: anyone else confused...

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...as to what all the fuss is about? i heard the track on that rough trade 25th anniversary thing and some of the album in a store... tired 'lectro beats and acid wibble featuring indie rock girl gettin "feaky" over top... is it serious? mocking? a telling commentary of sex roles in the y2k1? does anyone give a toss?

Jess, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That should be "gettin 'freaky' over top"...but I'm sure you all guessed that.

I should be in bed. At least I didn't ask my "Butt Cleavage: Classic Or Dud?" question...

Jess, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Peaches. Heh. Heh heh.

Here's a thread you should look at. Tracer offers a nice review of the live Peaches experience (which I only experienced from far, far away, and I am eternally grateful).

David Raposa, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Criminey...I can't win. My first two questions and they've already been caned into the ground. Sigh.

Jess, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

topp caner sez: i'm confused too. i am a sucker for hybrids (metal/electro in this case) and hybrids can be trully confusing at the outset. I think Peaches is Important somehow. but then i thought that about PE and Anthrax doing bring the noize and how progressive it sounded...

Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Saw her/them (then billed as Peaches & Gonzalez) open for Elastica here in NYC last year. First five minutes: funny. Next twenty-five minutes: irritating, stupid & pointless. If she's supposed to be sexy, it ain't working. If she's supposed to be ironic, it ain't working. If she's supposed to be annoying and juvenile, it's really working. Final verdict? Someone didn't get enough attention as a child.

alex in nyc, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Gonzalez is her friend, also from Toronto.

a) "If she's supposed to be sexy, it ain't working." She's not trying to be sexy, she's trying to be repulsive by taking conventional "sexiness" to its over-the-top apotheosis. b) "If she's supposed to be ironic, it ain't working." What definition of this word cd possibly fit her? c) "If she's supposed to be annoying and juvenile, it's really working." I think with Peaches if you expected a) and b) then c) is inevitable.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think Tracer should be put in charge of the Peaches Case Study. He's shown an affinity for the subject at hand, yet this affinity doesn't compromise his honesty or his integrity. He'd be perfect to head up this important project.

David Raposa, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm going to need per diem.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I saw her show for a few minutes at SXSW... just a few minutes. I watched, then I started looking around at the people standing around next to me... I went to get another beer, and then left. That's how "shocking", "sexy," and "cutting-edge" her performance was to me.

Andy, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"irony (n.) - a figure of speech in which the literal meaning of locution is the opposite of that intended"

Wouldn't "not trying to be sexy, she's trying to be repulsive by taking conventional "sexiness" to its over-the-top apotheosis" fit that definition of irony?

fritz, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

btw, I don't think she's repulsive, intentionally or not. as a performer, she's cool and funny and sexy, but her music is (as the kids say, or said at one point anyway) "wack".

fritz, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think you're right; "repulsive" is the wrong word. Her whole act and attitude turns me on no end. What I meant was that there's a tension to stripping and erotic shows which keeps the men up and bothered in a vaguely boozy state of constant arousal - the tension is the performer constantly threatening to cross any one of a set of vague yet totally understood lines, and not quite doing it. A line of agressiveness, of tactility, of sex, of appropriateness, of looks. Peaches crosses as many lines as she can lay her hands on, resulting in the dissipation of all expected frisson, but the creation of other, vaguer (and to me, more exciting) tensions. I think this is more than just "irony".

The idea of a whole Peaches show though is pretty ludicrous. She's more of a performance artist and sly-fucker-upper-by-remote than a satisfying concert performer. But a Peaches TRACK, dropped into the middle of a DJ set, as I heard by yrs truly about 4 weeks ago at a chanced-upon illegal house party on the Lower East Side (it was "Fuck the Pain Away") is what? What's the opposite of 'wack'? The double whammy of 1st: relief from the 4/4 tempo yet 2nd: bruising percussion and bassline, is such a welcome wallop in the middle of another dull samey techno set. And genuinely thrilling in the middle of a good one.

I'm going to need expenses too, Dave. There's a show in Hawaii.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Since the previous Peaches thread took this tangent, I would like to add that I just saw the Moldy Peaches play tonight and they were AWFUL. Oh my.

bnw, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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