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I know Di likes 'em, and I certainly know I do, but does anybody else here have much of an opinion about Warrant?

I haven't heard the later albums but Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich is a surprisingly consistent and intelligent platter of post-Hysteria/post-Poison pop-metal. I like how Jani Lane is frequently having his cake and eating it too. He likes life in the sticks, blue suburban skies and being stinking rich and going to big city clubs! The girl who sometimes cries can always count on him and he won't need to be a superman as long as you're his biggest fan BUT he also seems quite pro-ho! One second he's asking where the Down Boys go (I hope at least one weisenheimer sang this song while walking past the Special Ed. classroom in high school) and the next second he's the King Of It All! And since the liner notes claim "All Concepts by WARRANT" we can assume they're quite proud of their ability to capture every possible corner of the glam-metal market. Arguably the lead guitarist could chill a bit (and the band doesn't seem as inspired as Jani when he goes for the Bon Jovi But Better Power Ballad), but overall the music is more solid than Poison, who are my usual marker of whether or not a pop-metal band sucks or not.

Is Cherry Pie as good? What about their CMC material?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 1 August 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Three of the greatest interviews in rock history:

Metal Sludge Interviews Jani Lane

Metal Sludge Does a Rewind with Jani Lane

Metal Sludge Does a Three-Wind with Jani Lane

...plus at no extra cost to you, the reader:

Recently Fired Drummer Mike Fasano Talks Some Amusing Smack

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 August 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

overall the music is more solid than Poison

You are severely misguided here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 August 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

11. Do marriage vows mean anything to you?
No.

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 1 August 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Is Cherry Pie as good?
That song took less time to write than it did to play.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 1 August 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a epic trilogy, really. He's Frodo AND Gollum.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 August 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

they were like the Jay-Z of hair metal, if Jay-Z had never made it to Vol. 2

I'm not gonna deny "Heaven" (though it's possible) and "Down Boys" and some others have their charms, but while the first album is listenable it's also largely forgettable. Their self-awareness doesn't cancel out their dumbness. Also, they're f'in ugly.

Ned's statement on this thread fills me with joy.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 1 August 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Forgettable washouts, except for Cherry Pie (© Joan Jett)

ham on rye (ham on rye), Friday, 1 August 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Jeez, in the pic that accompanies the first interview, it looks like Jani has gained about 200 pounds! Wowwwwwwww.......... But wait! On the other pictures, he looks fine. Weird.

King Kobra (King Kobra), Friday, 1 August 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Other pictures -- Jani then. That picture -- Jani now (or at least in 2001 or when the interview was done).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 August 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I always liked "Cherry Pie", better than "Down Boys". But then I prefer riffs to chords, and "Cherry Pie" had a decent one. It's a weird song in that it starts out with a statement of the chorus, and then there's the breakdown and that big riff comes in. By the time the verse comes in, we're 40 seconds into this 3:20 song! How many pop-metal songs started with the chorus? I guess Bon Jovi did it on "You Give Love a Bad Name" (a capella) and "Bad Medicine". It also has that kind of staccato thing with the guitar stabs punctuating the verses, which I generally like. Actually the song kind of reminds me of "Rock Candy" by Montrose ("Rock Candy"/"Cherry Pie", main riff is somewhat similar, general level of daftness, etc)

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 1 August 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.metal-sludge.com/JaniLaneCherryPie.jpg
Then

http://www.metal-sludge.com/JaniMohawk1.jpg
Now

King Kobra (King Kobra), Friday, 1 August 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

He ate too much pie.
So...now he gets his fashion advice from the lead singer of Rancid?

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 1 August 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Gary Cherone (sp?) does rock operas around Boston. One of my former bosses played guitar in a version of Jesus Christ Superstar that starred Cherone.

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 1 August 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Gary Cherone (sp?) does rock operas around Boston. One of my former bosses played guitar in a version of Jesus Christ Superstar that starred Cherone.

what does that have to do with Warrant???

Anony-Mouse (King Kobra), Friday, 1 August 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh whoops. Extreme, Warrant, whatever.

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 1 August 2003 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

you can never eat too much pie

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Friday, 1 August 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

DRFSR is second only to def leppard's hysteria in being The Greatest Hair Metal Album Ever. every song on it is pure gold. my favourite lines on the album

got a lotta nerve to call me cheat, even though its true!
well i said hookers! and whores! anbd teenage sluts on my bedroom floor! i'm in love i'm in love i'm in love i'm in love i'm in love!

umm can't remember any more right now but i'm realy fond of "in the sticks", being a country girl and all. oh heh "you're gonna be a brand new country girl when i get through with you". magic. actually i haven't heard any other warrant albums at all.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Saturday, 2 August 2003 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

cherry pie is that "hotel, motel, holiday inn" one right? thats pretty choice.

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Saturday, 2 August 2003 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)

as i remember, i haven't heard it for a long ass time

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Saturday, 2 August 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

nah, duane - "Cherry Pie" is the immortal "I scream, you scream, we all scream for her!" Also, some lines about "swinging" this way and "swinging" that way, or something.

I mean, does it get any better than that?

I actually realized this song is in some ways an homage to Billy Squier.

The Billy Squier diaspora cannot be overstated.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 2 August 2003 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i think "hotel, motel, holiday inn" is like the Sugarhill Gang or something, you fool!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 2 August 2003 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)

no not that one! "rapper's delight" right? but i'm thinkin of a 80s metal song...i was sure it was warrant. dunno.

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Saturday, 2 August 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"in the sticks" could be the best song on the album

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 2 August 2003 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually realized this song is in some ways an homage to Billy Squier.

(© Joan Jett)

Yeah, "I Love Rock n' Roll" and "The Stroke" both seem implicated.

The Billy Squier diaspora cannot be overstated.

Heavens no.

jackson anderville, Saturday, 2 August 2003 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't it strange how no one actually answered the question being posed here?

King Kobra (King Kobra), Saturday, 2 August 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)

not really, KK. I kind of figured most people wouldn't actually give the group a critical appraisal.

Ohhh, Di. Your DFRSR approval melts my hearrrrrt. In the middle of the night, in the pouring rain, you can count on me!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 2 August 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I totally forgot to mention the fascinating opening song, "32 Pennies." The chorus opens with him stating that "32 pennies in a Ragu jar is all I got to my name!" At first I wondered why he didn't keep his 32 pennies in his pocket, but then I remembered those guys are always wearing really tight leather pants, so maybe they couldn't fit 32 pennies. But even if that's the case, why a Ragu jar? Why not a ziploc bag? And unless Jani is some kind of Arthur Lee psychedelic wordsmith, I have to assume that he once did keep pennies in a Ragu jar. And since he uses the brand name, either Ragu paid him to endorse their jars as piggie banks or he didn't even bother to rip off the label and actually walked around the Sunset Strip with a jar that clearly read RAGU. It's not a glass jar, not a tomate sauce jar, it's a RAGU jar.


Actually, looking over the lyrics, this COULD be a song by Arthur Lee of Love. Check it out:

Spend my time and all my money
On a knob for my brass bed
Climb to the top of the highest mountain
Just to see how far I get
Dancin' with my shadow
But I let my shandow lead
And if I die with a penny in my pocket
then I guess thats all I need

Oooh baby where you going to
I was thinking that maybe I would
Come along with you
I could walk on down the road
Till I found me someone new
But I think I'll stay just one more day
Cuz i'm in love with you
Ohh Ohh

Yeah
Ooh Ooh baby yeah
32 pennies in a Ragu jar
That's all I've got to my name
But I love her and she loves me
To the pennies its all the same

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 2 August 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, and the reason he's dressed all punk is probably because that's the GLAMMEST someone can dress today and still be hip. He's complained in interviews about how he LOVES to dress up but during the flannel years he couldn't. Shame.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 2 August 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I love that chorused-out arpeggiated 12-string guitar lick in the verses of "Down Boys" which appears for absolutely no reason at all. That's about it, though. Their power ballads were always subpar.

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Saturday, 2 August 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I pretty much hated Warrant when they were around. Though me and a friend had a lot of fun singing "Cherry Pie" in high-art operatic baritone to each other in the hallway between classes. Try it, it's fun. My favorite hard-rock song about pie is still "Apple Pie" by White Trash.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 2 August 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Entertaining Fun by Metal Sludge with an Erik Turner Interview. And more and more, though it's not really about Warrant by the end of it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 August 2003 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

anthony miccio, i want to light your cigarettes with hundred dollar bills.

haha doesn't everyone love it in "dirty rotten filthy stinking rich", how jani lane goes "maybe i'll even PIERCE my nose!" as if thats a really extravagant thing to do, up there with owning an italian car as long as his street and wearing exotic animals on his feet.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Saturday, 2 August 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

1988 or whenever was a long, long time ago.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 2 August 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Cherry Pie is okay! The title track is good.

Love/Hate are better, as are Junkyard and Skid Row.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 3 August 2003 08:29 (twenty-two years ago)

love/hate! yeah thats some shit i need to hear again.

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 3 August 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

junkyard were merely ok tho & i can't remember jack-o-shit about any skid row songs

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 3 August 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

they were better than warrant (39th best hair metal band at best)

nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Junkyard had punk cred, because Brian Baker (Minor Threat, Dag Nasty, etc.) played guitar.

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 3 August 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

duane do you remember "youth gone wild" and "18 and life"?

jani lane and sebastian bach both made my top 5 list of men i wanted to marry when i was 8.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Sunday, 3 August 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Junkyard is pretty boring, at least the stuff that VH1 Classic plays. Skid Row I'm definitely more curious about (just taped "Youth Gone Wild" off of TV).

The funny thing is I HATED this kinda music when it came out. I was a diehard R.E.M./B-52's fan at the time. These guys were WAY too confident (esp. sexually) for my taste at the time. But things change, I guess...

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 3 August 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm sorry...8?!!! Jesus, please have sympathy on us old codgers.

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 3 August 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Me and my Weird Al fan friends used to make fun of hair-metal at that age. "Take me down to the paradise where the girls are green/and the grass is pretty." One of my friends had a nice parody of the beginning of heaven, changing the object of Jani's affection from the girl to the dog. Can't remember how it went though.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 3 August 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

the other three men on my top 5 list were robin zander, cc deville and rikki rockett.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Sunday, 3 August 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

dag nasty, yeah that's "cred" isn't it

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 3 August 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

di sing em to me & i might but just from the titles, nope

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 3 August 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

you were already doing things like having lists of men you wtd to marry when you were 8?! christ you were ILX wating to happen, weren't you

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 3 August 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

hey & someone tell me what that hair metal song w. the hotel/motel/holiday inn refrain was? andrew palmer, you still out there??

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 3 August 2003 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I got DRFSR a couple months ago for LESS THAN A DOLLAR on CD. It was the cheapest (and probably best!) thing on the clearance shelf of a store that was going out of business. I'm glad I found it.

AC/DC's "Long Way To The Top" references hotel motel but not holiday Inn, so you might be thinking of something else.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 3 August 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

dag nasty, yeah that's "cred" isn't it

Gotta problem with Dag Nasty?! FITE!

Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 3 August 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

It seems a lot of rock writers are/were very into metal, but very few are/were very into hardcore (*and by that I mean, Unsane/Born Against/Sick of It All/COC/SOD/DRI, etal). D'ya think this is true? Is it that Metal is a lot more glam(orous) and acceptable (=listenable, to some ears)?

Chris P, Sunday, 3 August 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

More like it actually has some variety in comparison, really. That said, Jess to thread.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 August 2003 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that's in the ear of the listener Ned. Born Against doesn't sound like Sick of It All doesn't sound like Unsane to me, whereas Def Lepard/Poison/Warrant/Whitesnake are all but indistinguishable to me except for their videos. You'd say then, that Metal is better than Hardcore because it's more diverse/eclectic???

Chris P, Sunday, 3 August 2003 21:27 (twenty-two years ago)

What about the 2nd gen. Relapse hardcore acts (Mastodon, Coalesce, Cephalic Carnage)?

Chris P, Sunday, 3 August 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Part of it is all a matter of definition in the end -- if Chuck Eddy reads and contributes to this thread he'll talk about that better than I could. It's flippant to say that one 'genre' however described is less diverse than another in just about all cases -- all the various hip-hop and techno haters are evidence of that. But for my part I'd consider hardcore to be a subset of the whole metal/hard rock impulse -- this is MY own take, not anyone else's necessarily -- and I'd also say if your four choices are meant to represent the scope of metal then that was extremely restricted. The Relapse folks you refer to are unknown to me so I can't speak about them.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 August 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned- it's just an honest inquiry into something I don't quite get, and I wonder what others' perspective is, and why one form seems to generate a lot more excitement than another. I suspect there might be some reasons more than simple musical preference, but I wanted to hear what others thought. And I was in no means trying to cover the whole of metal, some of which would probably fall within the confines of my interest (Anthrax, Pantera, Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, Napalm Death), but rather a particular strain that was popular when I first started watching MTV, and who continue to apparently do well enough to tour more than Toto and the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band.

Chris P, Sunday, 3 August 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

anthony no of course i don't mean "long way to the top", i know that song real well! it was totally one of those 80s men-dressed-up-like-prostitutes bands...oh c'mon, you or di must know it if anyone does?!

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 3 August 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

well if di loves warrant, then who am i to argue?

Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 3 August 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I just listened to "Apple Pie" again and it's okay but I've revised my favorite pie song to "Custard"

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 4 August 2003 05:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Skid Row - Slave to the Grind, all time classic album, and you can probably get it pretty cheap.

I must find my Warrant and Love/Hate tapes today.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 4 August 2003 07:52 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...
DIRTY ROTTEN FILTHY STINKING RICH AND CHERRY PIE ARE BEING GIVEN THE EXPANDED REISSUE TREATMENT IN APRIL!

WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 7 March 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

The Lou Barlow style bedroom demos are the kicker.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 March 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i still haven't got cherry pie. but i have a giant poster of it in my lounge thats almost as tall as i am.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Sunday, 7 March 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Whenever I went to pizza hut as a kid I would flip through the jukebox selections and would always see the cover for Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich. It never failed to creep me out.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 7 March 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Best Warrant song ever: "Ode to Tipper Gore." That was the first time I ever heard swearing in a rock song.

See, all these stupid 90s kids totally write off hair-metal and say things like, "Thank God for Saint Kurt slaying the dragon of poodle-hair metal and ridding the world of Bon Jovi forever!" but dammit! I liked it! It was FUNNY!! They had a sense of humor!! I don't know. Maybe it's because I grew up with the stuff, but I never understood what's so bad about big heavy arena rock riffs, thumpin' 80s drums, and loud fuckin' rock God guitar solos. I dug it! All together now: "SWINGIN' in the BATHROOM!! SWINGIN' in the KITCHEN!!"

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 7 March 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Metal Mike Saunders (in an email he wrote this weekend) on why Warrant were one of rock's great bands ("one of the five best rock bands since the Beatles," he says -- personally, I rate their two great and later two really good albums as slightly below Kix's six great ones, but above Poison's two great ones, Cinderella's one great one plus two or three pretty good ones, and Slayer's zero anything):

"WARRANT. great band, great live band, two great hammer-down hard rock albums that no one (outside of their fan base) even knows exist--DOG EAT DOG and ULTRAPHOBIC. great songwriter (jani lane). great lead singer (jani lane). oh, and one of the best stage "frontmen" ever (again, jani lane). Warrant and JL (as a writer/singer/frontman) are absolutely the most underrated rock band of all time, from Little Richard through Hilary Duff.

If they'd had a cool name, a "cool image" (like the MC5 who took great photos but when push came to shove, were fuck-up loser junkies who choked over and over outside of their midwest fan base...as in, Grand Funk took the "detroit sound" to the country, however watered down or second-rate; MC5 totally failed, not to mention their halfassed studio recordings, third-rate at best), and had never done the "Cherry Pie" video or tune (which nonetheless is total trash-rock genius, close to the "Louie Louie" of its time)...i dunno, use your imagination.

if "Poison" (giant green logo everywhere, not bad) had been named "Warrant" (uncool name, no logo) and "Warrant" vice versa, is anyone gonna bet me two-bits that Warrant (with the different, cooler name) wouldn't be the no 1 band on that VH1 Top 40 Hair Metal Band Of All Time countdown?

Just punch up http://www.amazon.com and see what Warrant's fan base thought of DOG EAT DOG in the "buyer's reviews"...that is possibly the best heavy-guitar melodic heavy metal album of its entire generation. close to amazing. seriously. It of course came out it the hellmouth of the explosion of 1992 grunge crap-deluge everywhere, and so got buried; the band's manager died, their headlining tour tanked and was canned halfway through, the band splintered/broke up for a year...etc. There's probably a great unreleased Jani Lane solo album between the various (later) Jabberwocky and Lane-solo stuff that CBS eventually decided not to put out (he initially retained a CBS deal after the band was dropped in the mass purge of nearly all major-label hair metal bands, most of whom obviously deserved to return to the hellhole they came from).

if you are a hard rock/metal fan but don't own those 3rd and 4th Warrant albums DOG EAT DOG and ULTRAPHOBIC, your entire collection should be confiscated and traded in for Hilary Duff DVD's yesterday. I say this as someone who heard and loved it all first-wave heavy metal from ground zero, Sabbath in 1970-71 until "heavy metal" turned to formula crap within about a decade. For Warrant to cut a substantial body of truly great or near-great melodic and heavy melodic-metal during the nadir of idiot clueless poser hair-metal and speedmetal bands, was a remarkable accomplishment. (In baseball, that'd be called the "ballpark factor").

After the Beatles, Kinks, and Beach Boys (or whoever you prefer) as 60's giants, i rate Warrant's catalog (much smaller obviously) as impressive as anyone's since. AC/DC w/Bon included. also: if you don't own the CBS catalog best-ofvCD, THE BEST OF WARRANT, you know nothing about this band's music! that is a truly great, near-perfectly sequenced 16-tune set. And top to bottom it rocks as hard as ANY rock bandof the 80's.

for the record, i rate the Small Faces, Green Day, Warrant and a couple others as my favorite catalogs since the Class Of 1963-64 trioka (i'm rounding up a bit with the Beach Boys). I love AC/DC and Sabbath but there's only really two albums by each that kick my ass (and not the common favorites...over here it's LET THERE BE ROCK and IF YOU WANT BLOOD YOU'VE GOT IT, all the way."


chuck, Monday, 26 April 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

if "Poison" (giant green logo everywhere, not bad) had been named "Warrant" (uncool name, no logo) and "Warrant" vice versa, is anyone gonna bet me two-bits that Warrant (with the different, cooler name) wouldn't be the no 1 band on that VH1 Top 40 Hair Metal Band Of All Time countdown?

yes. Poison were, if not sweet, at least charming. Charming goes a long way.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 26 April 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Warrant were "sweet" *wink, wink*

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 26 April 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Since I only paid fifty cents for my CD copy of DRFSR I'm gonna buy the new reissued copy along with Cherry Pie. Supposedly the demos are pretty kickass.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 26 April 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

In the 'words I never thought I'd hear' category...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

and Poison were much better before they replaced the clothes with the giant green logo

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 26 April 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

When Poison retires to Vegas, CC will retire to the Catskills

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 26 April 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

and DRFSR beats the shit out of every Kix album IMO, though the debut and Cool Kids get close

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 26 April 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. I really wanna hear Dog Eat Dog now..

Broheems (diamond), Monday, 26 April 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Best part of Dog Eat Dog is tracks two through four: Hole in My Wall/April 2031/Andy Warhol Was Right. But it's a really solid album, though; just not quite up to the level of the first two, which few albums are. I no longer own Ultraphobic, but I gave it a really good review in I think Ent Wkly when it came out, and I obviously should've kept it.

chuck, Monday, 26 April 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

hey chuck you should have Metal Mike review the new Warrant reissues. These guys are DUE for a critical reappraisal.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 26 April 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Mr. Miccio, you REALLY should go to Metal Sludge and read all the Warrant stories.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I did, and they're fucking hilarious. Doesn't change the quality of the albums.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

or album, since I've only heard the first.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Currently Warrant doesn't even feature Jani Lane if I'm not mistaken.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

actually half-hilarious, half-heartbreaking re: articles

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 26 April 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Currently Warrant doesn't even feature Jani Lane if I'm not mistaken.

Not at present, no. Some dude named Jaime St. James I think. But Steven Sweet is back in...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 April 2004 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"The MC5 who took great photos but when push came to shove, were fuck-up loser junkies who choked over and over outside of their midwest fan base...as in, Grand Funk took the "detroit sound" to the country, however watered down or second-rate; MC5 totally failed, not to mention their halfassed studio recordings, third-rate at best."

This is pretty overstated. I think that, like lots of great bands that never really make it, the MC5 didn't break nationally or internationally because they just didn't tour enough! They didn't stay out on the road. Am I wrong? How did they "choke" apart from that?

Thing is, you can say that about tons of bands. And their 2nd and 3rd albums have problems production-wise, but their not such a travesty--not worse than lots of bands' records from the time.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"they're" not such a travesty

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe this is even a question. That implies that you struggled to decide.

uh, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Warrant reaches out to god:

---
Warrant Plays Christian Club in Ft. Worth, TX

I am not sure if this is the curse of Obi Steinman or what, but the names Warrant and Christian Club do not seem to go together. You can see that Warrant is scheduled to play premier festivals and venues like the House of Blues on their tour itinerary, but a Christian club? That's like Carman playing on the next Rock Never Stops Tour.

Warrant was scheduled to play The Asylum in Ft. Worth, Texas. For being a Christian Club the name doesn't seem to fit. The club's website says "BYOB." Not bring your own beer, but "Bring Your Own Bibles." I am not kidding! It says this on their site. No alcohol is served, no smoking, and all opening acts will be spreading the word of Jesus Christ. Now, when I think of Warrant, I think of the soundtrack to my youth, getting laid, and an entertaining show. Well, no one was going to get laid at this show and no one was having a good time - that's for sure. The show was not mentioned on radio, or advertized by the venue. If only Christian bands play this place, what makes anyone think that they are going to be coming out to do the Warrant High Sign on a Friday night? To make it worse, this venue was out in the middle of nowhere - right next to a junkyard and in front of a trailer park. This was far from a House of Blues. I tried buying pre-sale tickets, but the place was never open and the manager would never return my phone calls. Finally, the manager returned my call and said that he would meet me to sell me tickets. This is sad. I e-mailed Erik Turner telling him all of this. This all seemed like some kind of bad dream. We could barely even find this place. But, I will digress.

The three warm up bands were all Christian bands who were reaching to the ceiling and saying "Praise God" all night. I highly doubt they were awaiting to see Warrant and sing along to songs where they say, "You won't be able to walk tomorrow, so we might as well do it some more." Many of the opening bands even left after their performances. Once again, this is poor planning and not a smart way of making money on everyone's part.

The venue holds about 500 in capacity. For the show not being advertised, being a BYOB Christian venue, 100 miles away from Dallas, and pouring down rain - I am surprised the 150 plus even found the place. There are Warrant fans out there who probably got fed up and turned back because they got lost. We even thought about it as well.

Me and my crew have never missed a Warrant show ever. We have never seen a bad Warrant show. But after tonight, and I think everyone would agree, that everyone would take a fat ass, mohawk wearing, Jani Lane in a heartbeat - especially with the original line up. Stephen Pearcy had better stage raps and more charisma than Jaime St. James. He looked like he was about to have an anurism on every song. Jaime seemed to be thinking about every lyric as he sang them - not quite sure as to what was coming next. He even forgot the words to "Bridges are Burning" and I was hoping he would read my lips through the entire first verse to get them right since I was on the front row. But, nope. There was no funny jokes, banter, stories, NOTHING! And this guy had a record deal and was on MTV? I felt as though Steven Sweet was thinking to himself, "I should have stuck with making pet portraits" as he was playing. The one and only time Jaime seemed to know what to do was on the one Black and Blue song they did - "Hold on to 18." Everyone knows Warrant for the entertainment factor in between the songs and during the songs. Jani better be working out with a trainer and getting his ass in shape, because this is the only this band is going to have some success.

Notes:

- Steven Sweet looks better today than he did back in day.
- Joey Allen looks like he hit the gym before the tour and has some guns and some new tats.
- Erik Turner has gone back to playing dual leads like he used to on the first two records and was top notch. He even did the intro to "Sometimes She Cries" - which was amazing. He would doodle around in between songs. He is better than many people think. I would put Joey and Erik right there with Scotti Hills/Snake Sabos, Izzy/Slashs, DeGarmos and Wiltons and so forth.
- Jerry was Jerry. That guys doesn't age.
- Jaime St. James can't handle a crowd. At one time Steven Sweet started talking to the audience and was more intriguing. He isn't a bad singer, just not a front man. Granted, Jani, Butch Walker, and Paul Stanley are the best in rock and they are hard to beat. But puh-leeze.
- The set list is hard to beat. More Dog Eat Dog stuff would be great, but they basically play the entire Cherry Pie album.

I got to meet the band after the show. Erik seemed sad. He even said, "Sorry the show wasn't that good." To me, the show never had a chance to be good due to the club. However, I was front row, sang every lyric, and saw Joey and Erik tear it up old school. Joey seemed happy to be away from his computer job and back on the stage. What's depressing is that Warrant always had good songs - better than Poison. But, too many member shuffles, lead singer issues, and management have killed this band. They could still be touring every summer in similat venues as Poison (if Jani took care fo himself).

Warrant needs Jani. Fact.

I'm out like the Bibles at a Warrant show.

-- Van Slammer
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Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 May 2004 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
Hooboy. So on a whim I decide to see what Metal Sludge is up to for the first time in a couple of years, and I gather that Mr. Lane is on tour. And in a word, ugh. This ain't pretty, and neither is it funny.

April 15

April 24

April 30

From here on in, it's just ugly:

May 8

May 9

May 9 followup

May 14

May 18

May 19

May 19 followup

Nothing new since.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

I have a hard time believing that Metal Sludge ran those stories, as they claim, because of their concern for Jani Lane. Nevertheless, it's interesting-- in a trainwreck kind of a way.

punis (punis), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

"Cherry Pie" is a great song, although the production is a little weak. And if I recall, pop culture was very anti-cunnilingus at the time, making this a rather bold statement. This song would have been a critical smash had Joan Jett done it.

Kjle Risch, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

pop culture was very anti-cunnilingus at the time

Yes, I remember it well. The streets were aflow with anti-cunnilingus rhetoric, and we could feel the coming revolution in the air.

punis (punis), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

well, reggae dancehall culture was anti-cunnilingus, at least.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

"memo to wardrobe buy a belt for Jani"

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

'See, all these stupid 90s kids totally write off hair-metal and say things like, "Thank God for Saint Kurt slaying the dragon of poodle-hair metal and ridding the world of Bon Jovi forever!" but dammit! I liked it! It was FUNNY!! They had a sense of humor!! '

Of course, not all could come up with clever lines which is what made Warrant a cut above. Although I suppose there is something unintentionally funny about a hair metal band which takes itself entirely seriously. What else is funny about your observation is that the musical antecedents of both grunge and hair metal were so similar, just packaged differently.

From one of Ned's Metal Sludge links:

'Jani Lane would not go on until he had the last of his 17 towels, and then waited another half an hour after that.'

This reminded me of that old Golden Nugget casino/hotel commercial when Frank Sinatra asked Steve Wynn for more towels and Wynn goes 'Tooowwweellls!?' And then they followed it up with a Dolly Parton/Kenny Rogers which was also pretty funny entirely due to the way Dolly exclaimed Kenny's name.

Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

five years pass...

RIP Jani Lane

charlie h, Friday, 12 August 2011 05:28 (fourteen years ago)

Holy shit. You got all the attention that I could never get from every girl at my lunch table in 7th grade. R.I.P. guy.

kkvgz, Friday, 12 August 2011 11:39 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjyZKfdwlng

ice cr?m, Friday, 12 August 2011 11:47 (fourteen years ago)

shit!

Dark Noises from the Eurozone (Tracer Hand), Friday, 12 August 2011 12:25 (fourteen years ago)

His real name was John Kennedy Oswald.

kkvgz, Friday, 12 August 2011 13:55 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw-Jlg6ZgAw

confidence mane (crüt), Friday, 12 August 2011 13:59 (fourteen years ago)

xpost -- what makes that especially weird is that he was born three months *after* Kennedy was killed in Dallas. "Honey, I've got the perfect name!"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 August 2011 14:07 (fourteen years ago)

What a fantastic voice. This makes me unexpectedly sad.

dr. phil, Friday, 12 August 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)

saw this on a trashy UK newssite a sec ago (dailymail.co.uk) & the story says:

"Lane's private interests included football and cooking. He enjoyed experimenting with food- a particular favourite recipe was Mexican Lasagne."

RIP of course but that's a weird detail.

Euler, Friday, 12 August 2011 14:15 (fourteen years ago)


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